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I don't know about instant classic, but it's definitely better than Tranzit. The main thing I hate is that once you jump down somewhere, you have to make a FULL circle around the map. I also don't like having to wait for elevators to get to certain parts of the map. Other than those, it's a pretty good map.

In solo definitely. QR + Who's who = and you'll never die.

Haha that's pretty cool. It's definitely the haz-mat zombie from NTZ.

Yeah, at first I hated it, but after learning the map and where everything is, I'm starting to like it. I still think the maps they're making are way too big. IMO maps should be Der Riese-Ascension in size.

goddamn it Treyarch.. Did you really have to go and make Tranzit even worse? I hope this IS just a glitch or a mistake that they'll patch soon. I don't even play Tranzit anymore. If Die Rise sucks, I think I'm giving up on BO2 zombies.. -BO1 Zombies for life-

So far I can't tell how big the map is, but they REALLY need to stop with the "This is the biggest map yet!" thing. Any map bigger than Ascension is just too big in my opinion. As long as the map is just that one building it should be a decent sized map. I'm also a bit skeptical about the perks in the elevators. Anything that makes Jugg harder to get (Ex. moon) is a big thumbs down. Also making PaP hard to get is a no-no. A big problem in Shangri-la, Moon, and Green Run. It's hard enough to get my friends to PaP on Shang, I can't imagine trying with randoms.

Honestly the only thing about I like about BO2 Zombies is being able to see your kills, downs, etc.. Taking out private match is probably their worst idea yet. If BO1 had those leader boards, I'd never touch BO2. Even though I don't like it, I'll still buy all the map packs.. Hardcore zombie fan till the end.

I liked it when they based Easter eggs off maps, not maps off Easter eggs. Because of the end of the moon Easter egg, they're doomed to make each map a foggy post-apocalyptic wasteland.

So instead of firing 3 doomsday rockets at the Earth to "stop" Richthofen, why didn't he just use the rockets to destroy Richthofen and the pyramid?

Does Spiderbite just steal peoples ideas and make videos of them? It seems like every time I see a great zombie theory, either on here or youtube, I see a NGT video a few days later about the same thing.

Today is a good day gentlemen. From the looks of it this looks more like an original style map. Not a wide open area with a few doors to buildings but close quarters with doors everywhere to get where you're going.

If they didn't give us NTZ I'm pretty sure special edition sales would be 1/8th of what it was. I was also one of those people who got screwed by hardened so I guess I'm siding with Ryan. It's not about whether or not Treyarch should have included NTZ in the Pass; It's about them saying "exclusive with Hardened" and then after they were all sold out "Oh yeah btw its also coming with the Season pass in 1 month!1!!". Yay right? Yeah it was pretty vulgar but that's pretty much how I felt when I first found out I got screwed out of $20. Yeah you can argue that I didn't have to spend the extra $20 but when Treyarch says they have no plans for it to be released in the future, you think "hey, I might never get a chance to play NTZ. If I do it will be in like 6 months. Might as well".

Yeah I saw the green Avogadro once but it was outside in the town.

It's a good idea, but I agree with the guy above me. Perks are fine how they are. For stamin-up, maybe after a zombie hits you they get slowed for a second or two.

Huh. That's pretty cool. Maybe you need to use the Jetgun to fly somewhere for the next step of the Easter egg.. If there is one.

Yeah I think Treyarch just forgot to remove the Earth texture. People were like "omg not on earth!1!!". Treyarch: "ummmmm yeaaaahh.. sure, we mean't to do that." Jimmy to the zombie team: "Well so apparently there's no way for them to get off the moon because area 51 is on an asteroid in space.. Stop designing Paris, we have to make another bad moon map."

Dude.. This is the cockiest shit iv'e ever seen on this forum. Please tell me the secret of how you're so good while maintaining a social life. Anyways.. I'm going to go ahead and say K/D doesn't show your true skill. True skill is getting out of tight situations, being able to run trains in awful spots, the mental focus needed to get to 100+, and much more.. There's no way they could make a formula for those, so they took the easy way out and made it Kill/Death.

When I saw the title I was like "What? He's quiting?!?" Then I clicked and let out a sigh of relief. Unless he did get hit by a meteor..

Happy new year Just got to 41 on CotD! New years resolution: 40+ on SSN, Der Riese, and Moon.

I looked into this one. I'm calling R-A-G-E. It's the only four letter R word that would make sense. That or R-U-G-S. But I doubt it would be rugs. race, rack, racy, rads, raft, raga, rage, rags, raid, rail, rain, rake, ramp, rams, rand, rang, rank, rant, rape, raps, rapt, rare, rash, rasp, rate, rats, rave, rays, raze, razz, rcpt, read, real, ream, reap, rear, recd, redo, reds, reed, reef, reek, reel, refs, rein, rely, rems, rend, rent, reps, resp, rest, revs, rhea, rial, ribs, rice, rich, rick, ride, rids, rife, riff, rift, rigs, rile, rill, rime, rims, rind, ring, rink, riot, ripe, rips, rise, risk, rite, rive, road, roam, roan, roar, robe, robs, rock, rode, rods, roes, roil, role, roll, romp, rood, roof, rook, room, root, rope, ropy, rose, rosy, rota, rote, rots, roue, rout, roux, rove, rows, rube, rubs, ruby, ruck, rude, rued, rues, ruff, rugs, ruin, rule, rump, rums, rune, rung, runs, runt, ruse, rush, rusk, rust, ruts I would guess either Reap or Rise. Who knows, maybe there's a fifth DLC not included in the season pass.. Or maybe it doesn't spell anything and Treyarch is trolling.

Maybe [Die] and [Rise] are two different maps. Just a thought. I was hoping for more than just one zombie map.

I want a medium/small good map instead of a HUGE awful map.

Can you do Maxis' side with only 2 people? Or does it require all 4.

The trailer makes Tranzit look so much better. A lot less fog.

Yeah I think Nuketown zombies and moon take place in the 60s. I assume NTZ takes place soon after "original" nuketowns nuke goes off.