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Unless you want to live like Ron Swanson CODZ is the least of your worries like the other guys have pointed out.

Nicely done Chameleon. There are only 2 reasons to do it any differently. If you are aiming for a high round its very satisfying to setup asap...just gives a boost. And to get the rocket things or fists. I've done both but once I completed the solo EE I have never done either again in solo. Both steps irritate the hell out of me and I think they are a waste of time for my personal goals. Have some brains from me mate, nice lil guide.

It's so underwhelming all round. It's one and only plus is that it's the perfect weapon for Five. Very tight spaces and it working to about round 25 nicely makes it so. As a wonder weapon all round though it's frankly awful. It's useless by round 30 and before then the Ray Gun is still better for most players.

Ignoring the story (as I just don't follow it) if Shang was anywhere it could be argued that it's an entirely different planet, known or unknown to us. If you are for Mars being a possibility as a future location, then to me it makes more sense that they would put that type of location further away. It would give them more options in future story arcs, if they wanted to involve other intelligent life. That would just make more sense coming from somewhere other than Mars. Edit - how many moons / Sun's can be seen from Shang?

Shang is outside right? The atmosphere on Mars isn't really compatible with humans. Doesn't that kinda knock any reasoning on its head?

@Dahniska - damn that's a nice start. I do think it's a little out of reach for most people though. Not too many players could manage by the church with an M14 and no Jugg. Not many at all. I understand that all the steps you do make sense, and are fairly easy to do. The big problem is that it's so damn easy to die on this map that someone who isn't as comfortable as you is going to struggle to do it in the same way. It's very good to watch though.

Thanks for bringing this back up Mr Boring, I had a lot of fun when Origins first came out thinking about the map.

I wrote so much about Origins back in the day, along with Danihska. I always said that Origins is over-complicated by the start. Get Jugg and Stamina, an MP40 and get to round 8. Learn how to beat that big ugly dude with just an MP40 which isn't to difficult and then do everything else on round 10. The most frustrating times I ever had in zombies outside of NML was trying to do everything as quickly as possible and without wasting much time on Origins. I wrote a huge guide on it, covering how to not cross the same area twice if it could be helped etc, best order to do stuff in but the major problem is the the big dude can cause some completely bullshit downs. Rushing to round 8 I can have him beat within 10 minutes. Doing 'everything' else and then beating him on round 8 with a Boom or staff is going to take me at least twice that time, maybe more. And even then you can still go down. If you suss how to beat him with just that MP40 and environment manipulation, I'm sure you'd be able to enjoy it more. I can make a video if you wish, showing how to beat him with and without Jugg.

Any of them, I'm too good for that shit.

I understood the anal reference, as would most. Maybe not a technically correct use of the word in your sentence, but all gravy to me. I rarely ever knife zombies anymore, outside of rounds 1-4 when I can control the drops to an extent. I don't believe the extra 30 (or 60) points are worth it against the 100 for headshots. Nukes suck, insta kill sucks (in relation to point whoring). Firesales need to be strategised to be used correctly and carpenters just slow the game down. For all those reasons I don't bother knifing. I save 3k against the knife....even with permanent *2 it takes 50 zombies to make that difference up against shooting them in the head.

Nicely written out mate. Visual discovered, Steve displayed and then Jam went crazy. Lag is crazy on this with no claymores.

Damn mate that's a nice couple of posts intro. Welcome to the site, you should be able to find some people to play with, and they would certainly be able to help you learn those maps you have only had for a week

Hey Clay, the more I've played zombies the more I've realised that the start isn't as important as I once thought. On COTD, I'd probably go for Jugg fairly quickly now, as this map can be very punishing when going for the Sickle first. By round 15 or so, it doesn't matter how you started, it levels out. This isn't a starting guide, it's a guide to get to 50 with ammo management and thoughts on using George to assist.

There is a huge difference between an adult jokes and adult topics/conversations. I've come to the realisation that if people do not understand what Samara is asking for, then ultimately it probably isn't going to be for you. We could have an unregulated area for all those adult jokes etc, but that wouldn't be the same as an area for more mature discussions. If we look at the thread that caused this particular request/incident, it's apparent that the only people who had a problem with it were the younger ones, or dare I say it, less mature. Every adult who posted in that conversation were pretty much on the same page, all with a very similar personal opinion. I'm sorry to have to point it out again but EJs and MMXs reactions to the picture highlight exactly what we want to solve. EJ wasn't able to type after it, and MMX pretty much left the site over it, along with Samaras response. Now I was 100% behind Samara on that issue, as are pretty much all the more mature adults. We need a section where people will not be offended by pictures like that, especially when it is in context to the issue. I love the idea of CODZ having a wide range of ages and diverse groups, but issues like this clearly show some of the differences that we have. I'd say we have a section created where you have to be over 18 or 21, with maybe even credit card proof required to access. Longer standing younger users could be added as exceptions, and then monitored.

Hey, that's what I say a lot. Are you following me Jay? Never leave us Jay. Your stories are the best. I would nom you for uotm, but I don't like people who pull out. : ) A man and women who both like to stay on top? Lucky you aren't together, that wouldn't work so well. Personally I like the bottom, I'm a little lazy And pulling out is a bit schoolboy safetyish isn't it? Really sorry if I offend anyone, just couldn't resist!

Zombies should not have ranks is my answer. Unless they are part of a seperate mode. The second that a zombies game requires you to rank to gain anything outside of cosmetic gains, such as weapon skins or what not, is the day that zombies die for good. To me at least.

Maybe it's because they realise that when our heroes spawn back into the start for the 1000th time they may have a slight case of radiation sickness.

The VR-11 is so much better than the Winters Howl that they can't even be compared side by side. I've always seen the Winters Howl as a bit of a noob weapon up to round 30, and then completely useless after it. By noob I mean kinda spray and pray at whatever's in your way as opposed to zombie management. The VR-11 is somewhat effective to about the mid 40s, although it's never completely useless until 60 and above or so. The VR-11 in coop however is the about the best coop wonder weapon available. Howl over VR-11, and you keep making posts about people being noobs or not knowing what they are doing.....

Don't complete the EE, there is no need. It is known to glitch out the game and cause invisible drops. If you wish, complete until the 3 robots are walking constantly and then start whatever strategy. Having the 3 robots lined up, makes completing rounds easier using their feet,

Super deleted his account after receiving some absolutely shocking abuse. The community should have been ashamed.