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  1. I never understood the Plunger thing, as Der Eisendrache occurs in a Split, and I guess that what happens in a Split doesn't have effect on the original universe. Though, the Illuminati might have interdimensional (between splits) communication and next to that there is a very possible chance that Primis did something somewhere, changing history. And about the MTD backwards timetravel in DE...I am of the believe it is something different than backward timetravel. You say so in another thread: "They go back in time to see Dr. Groph enter in the code for the safe, so that they can open it in the present. But when they do, they are not noticed in any way by Groph, and the doorway leading out of the room has a black aura, suggesting the pocket version of this time is only in this room. Afterwards, they return to this room, back in time, and open a crate, taking a stone slab back with them. So they can interact with the past, but cannot be seen by anyone... strange" My answer: "Travelling to the past contradicts with the principle of matter transference, which can only teleport and time-travel to the future. Though the fact that Groph can't see Primis and the pressence of the black aura indeed proves its no normal timetravel to the past. In fact, I don't think it is time travel at all. I think you got a very good point about that pocket dimension thing, and the MTD might be capable of creating one (Hell, we might always be doing that when we use a teleporter). " I'll update this later
  2. It was an original one, Meh! (Also, MMX had his errors regarding the story about the Ancients/the beginning, but up till today his explanation of the BO2 events actually make so much sense and explain the stuff I couldnt understand/didnt thought to be canon)
  3. Thank you very much for those! I knew about the Faithful Servant note, but never actually saw it and didn't knew it was in such Industry Global Communication Centre appearance. The Illuminati language....this must be proof the letters are from the Novo Ordus Seclorum. So the sender, IHCOMFSOG, is Illuminati, which makes sense. Next to Group 935, Broken Arrow, the Ascension Group and the Ancient Order of the Keepers I am of the believe they are the only ones mastered teleportation (thanks to Richthofen's contribution and their sources in the other sciencific organizations), and so, possibly timetravel as well (though I am unsure how MTD's are capable of BACKWARDS timetravel). Let's consider they are: In 1975 they send the Kino and Five letters to 1963. Why were they first not aware how the Doctor got to this time and place and in Classified they were? I've looked it up, and a few things changed. You see, it didn't went chronological. Ulimis Der Riese, 1946 --> via overloaded MTD to Kino, 1963 ("we are unaware") --> via Gersch device in Ascension to Siberia, 2011 ("out of time") --> via MTD to Shangri La. Now it get's weird, as Shangri La, naturally, is a weird map. The timeline says that in 1956, Brock and Gary get stuck and Ultimis arrives to help them. However, Shangri La is the only timeline scrap of the maps that doesn't have the map's name as an indicator above it. What's more, Brock and Gary are stuck in Shangri La in 1956, during the Eclipse, but Ultimis travels back in time during the map. On top of this, MTD's are believed to be uncapable of travelling back in time, even when overloaded, and given the fact Ultimis used an MTD to reach Shangri La (heard in CotD and seen upon spawn in Shang)...I think the 'daytime' Shangri La is actually in 2011, like CotD, while the Eclipse is in 1956. So in Classified's intro, we see Ultimis timetravelling from Shangri La 1956 to the Pentagon in 1963 (Classified) by accident due to Tank overloading whatever they teleport with with the Babymaker. Since it is 1956, I believe they do so during the Eclipse. So in the Ultimis Saga, the only time they use backwards timetravel is during Shangri La. And apparently, this changed everything: "We are aware of how he reached this place and time". Suddenly, They know. What kind of odd thing is going on? Five happens directly after Classified, Five happens at the same time as Kino. So at approximately the same time, there are two Ultimis in this universe. Kino is abandoned, the Pentagon is not. I think the letter found in Kino is an older one, at the time the Illuminati didn't understood Richthofen's sudden vanishment in 1946 and appearance in 1963. In the time Ultimis went to 2011 something happened that made the Illuminati understand (possibly the appearance of Primis Richthofen?), and so, when Ultimis arrived back in 1963 again, the letter was changed. I also have a whole different idea: Illuminati warning Ultimis Richthofen for his Primis version that comes to kill him in the Giant or get his crew at the end of Classified. Wouldn't entirely make sense, though. I like your clarification of the zombified developer xD. So that is a human error, and no weird canon thing we have to solve as well.
  4. @ReviveMeIHaveTheJetgun I am actually really fond on Who's Who. Not really the effect, but more the fact like it is a small mini-game in a Perk-a-Cola format. And the fact it does not merely give you a perk, but you still have to do something for it. Wish there are more Perks like this. But I like your ideas nonetheless
  5. Looks like Esbjaerg or Absolut Vodka bottle. Think Absolut. (Another idea: the Nacht der Untoten Mystery Closet for all your cosplay suits)
  6. Guten morgen everyone! It’s that time again, the Order of Forgotten Mysteries (and yes, that includes you ;p ) will discuss something new again. Is timetravel or mail deliverer your thing, or both perhaps? Then you are at the right spot. This time we will talk about a variety of letters spread across times they should not be. Let’s start at the most notorious one, the one that can be found on multiple locations in the maps Kino der Toten and Five: Date: 23rd of January, 1975 From: IHCOMFSOG To: FS ER INDUSTRY GLOBAL COMMUNICATION SERVICE We have listed both Tabun and Sarin. Be wary of the Doctor. His involved should be minimised if you want to make it out alive. We are unsure on how he arrived at this time and place. Do what you must... Moving on to the second, observable in Classified: Date: 23rd of January, 1975 From: IHCOMFSOG To: FS ER INDUSTRY GLOBAL COMMUNICATION SERVICE We have listed both Tabun and Sarin. Be wary of the Doctor. His involved should be minimised if you want to make it out alive. We are aware on how he arrived at this time and place. Do what you must… And the last, and in my opinion most interesting one. This one is never talked about, when searching on the internet you get zero results and it was actually by chance I found it luring in the Call of the Dead section of this site. This is the best (and only) picture I have, and if anyone has noclip skills I would highly appreciate it if (if it doesn’t take too much efford) you can get a clearer pic: Date: (unreadable, though looks like I see December) From: IHCOMFSOG (most likely) To: FS ER (most likely) (unreadable) We are running out of time (unreadable) I cannot promise these are the only ones, there might be more hidden in various maps as well. But these three are the only ones found. A weird thing is that two of the telegrams talk about ‘Be wary of the Doctor’, while it is devoted to one FS ER: Faithful servant Edward Richthofen! So does the letter warn Richthofen for himself? My personal, hypothetical and very clear answer: Yes and no. ‘Be wary of the Doctor’ definately sounds more like Ultimis Richthofen to me. I think FS ER might be Primis Richthofen. ‘Faithful servant’ sounds Illuminati-like to me (though it definately could be Monty or the Shadowman), and remember how Primis Richthofen, in opposition to Ultimis, still somehow had a good relation with the Illuminati. They even obeyed him when he ordered them to build a laboratory beneath Alcatraz. So my personal theory is that these messages are from the Illuminati to Primis Richthofen in order to warn him for his Ultimis self. I wonder, though, if this is the Ultimis we know, from Black Ops I, or the Ultimis of the future maps, after Classified. But there are more mysteries involved with these telegrams: Why would the messenger note Tabun and Sarin? These are two nerve gases developed by Nazi-German scientists in the late 1930s. This could possibly be just a developers/texture error, but why is the messenger in the BO1 files called IHCOMFSOG and in BO3 IHCOMESOO? Why is, during Classified, the messenger aware of how the Doctor is capable of timetravel, and, during the events of BO1, not? Has there changed anything in-between? “We are running out of time”. For what? What is their agenda? It is also interesting to note that the messenger is, just as the person he warns for, capable of timetravel? The letters are written in 1975, while they can be found in 1963 (and 2011). Or did the timetravelling doctor spread these files himself? Link to previous Order of Forgotten Mysteries
  7. I like this chapter alot! I like the tons of references to other events (past and future). And that end of the test! It is as horrific as unexpected, and I totally pictured it like a movie in my head. You really surprised me with this, and I'm curious how this thing will pack out. Well done!
  8. Thanks for the great reply, and I'm glad you have such clear thoughts. I forgot Pablo had a kinda odd background, so to say, as I am still not 100% sure what the Developers wanted to say to us concerning him. In 1294, a knight named sir Pablo Marinus is fighting the Apothicans in Europa, while in 1944, one Pablo Marinus is captured as a Mexican spy by Group 935. The 1900s Pablo has visions of the 1200s Pablo due to exposure of Element 115. This could explain his visions of another time (or perhaps, another universe), but it still wouldn't explain why there is a Pablo living in the 700 years earlier as well. A nod to Reincarnation and the eternity of our Soul maybe? Perhaps, or the 1900s Pablo sees flashes of his later self. You see, Pablo Marinus is not really a Medieval European name. I know this is the weakest possible argument, but could this mean Pablo was born as a Mexican in the 20th century, and somehow travel to the 13th century where he becomes a knight of some sort? The timeline proves that his "flashbacks" were real, and not merely a dillusion due 115 injections. Anyway, yes, I could see him observing flashes of the Fractured Earth in Maxis's Wasteland as well. He could very well have written this on the calendar. However, it is a fact that this Maya calendar was hanging inside a Group 935 facility. Is there any logic behind this? Perhaps Richthofen, or another scientist that was interested in ancient cultures, the Welteis, etc, was studying this. There have been plenty of Nazi expeditions to investigate the unexplored, hoping to find proof for their weird conspiracy/mythology-based theories. The Mayas were the most advanced astronomers of their time. They had accurately predicted Solar Eclipses hunderds of years before they actually occured. They called them the chi'ibal kin: "To eat the sun", and is depicted as a serpent eating the Sun: In an Ancient Maya story, the power of a Solar Eclipse was used to increase potency of a most important ritual: Resurrecting the Jeweled Sky Tree in a temple that formed a portal to communicate with the Gods and ancestors. This version of a World Tree, called Wakah Chan Te by the Mayas, had its roots in the Underworld, its trunk rose through the Middleworld of earth, and its branches soared into the Upperworld of the cosmos. The story was said to take place around 650 CE, and interesting enough, historical records show that there was a Solar Eclipse crossing Guatemala on February 2, 650 CE...
  9. I hope it too, and I hear people mentioning this various times. But I personally think this is very unlikely, lesser than less
  10. That's too kind of you, but you shouldn't. I use my console way too less to be worth. On top of that, it's your money so better spend it to yourself/something good. But I appreciate your kind heart man, and thanks for the offer!
  11. Nope haven't played BO4 ever. Don't even know one friend or relative who has bought it, actually. Probably not because it's bad or anything but hey, it is probably kinda the same as BO2 and BO3. (I also totally get what you mean with your comment) During the release of the next map I'm in Costa Rica for some time so I might miss the first discussions, but I count on you buddy. I think this one will be filled with juicy intel! OH AND @Lenne WTF'S YOUR OBSESSION WITH SPLEENS HAHAHA
  12. Hello again, and welcome to the second episode of the Order of Forgotten Mysteries! Its been a week and I have to be fair- you guys really amazed me with your great comments last time, and I hope your creative minds are able to handle this thread this week as well. Because I promise, this’ll be a tough one. Brace yourselves! This time we will go back to the, in my opinion, most overlooked map, including by myself. Dress yourself warm, we are going to Siberia: Call of the Dead. Up to today, this map still holds so many neglected mysteries: odd cravings in the wall, flashing and moving lights in the distance, unexplained hidden papers, unsolved possible morse codes, weird paintings and an interesting backstory. At the end of 1940, Group 935 established a research station at the meteorite impact site near the Tunguska river. What is an interesting note, is that Group 935 continued their research and experiments here even after the spring of 1945, which marked the fall of Nazi-Germany. There are conspiracy theories how Die Glocke experiments were transferred to the Arctic, but the desolate Siberia could be a potential location as well. While Der Riese was gone, Group 935 survived and thrived. Even places like the Wittenau Sanatorium, aka Verruckt, seemed to have activity, as the US Marines were captured there by Group 935 scientists in September, 1945, five months after Nazi-Germany’s surrender. The container ship in Call of the Dead might have been “Group 935’s Ark”, a ship filled with surviving members, equipment, lab material and...testsubjects. They continued the development of an undead army, possibly stored in the containers. This is from a radio in CotD: The Army is stored… So far the backstory talks. We are getting at our main discussion item, something entirely different. Near the room where our heroes are trapped, an odd “map” with weird symbols can be found. Credits to @RadZakpak and @Schrödinger for the pictures. Now this might look like a Ludo board, but it actually is a Mayan calendar. Yeah, one of those so famously for predicting the end of the world. Or maybe this one does so as well. The Black Ops 2 pre-order poster featured a Misty standing in a Post-Apokalyptic landscape with a small 1221 on it: 12/21 2012 was the year the Maya calculated the Apocalypse. “The countdown for the zombie apocalypse has begun” “Ragnarok” “Brimstone to Damnation”. The deity Itzamna is frequently credited by bringing the Mayan calendar is to the Mayans. It consists of a series of timecalculations that together document every day from their current Timecycle that started in 3114 BC. Some important cycles are the one of 9 days (their week), the one of 365 days (their year) and the one of 52 years (their calendercycle). Some were already aware of the Aztec’s involvement in the story. @Lizizadolphin noted that on the Moon loading screen, one can read Aztec day signs, namely Cipactli (crocodile, east), Ehecatl (wind, north), Cali (house, west), Cuetzpalin (lizard, south) and Coatl (snake, east). The Nuketown loading screen features a candy with a part of the name Mictlantecuhtli on it, an Aztec deity of the Underworld, and @caljitsu also recently posted a thread about the Aztec’s connection with Blood of the Dead. But it is interesting to see now that the Mayans, another Ancient Mesoamerican civilization, has it’s influences in the story as well. When the calendar is found in Call of the Dead, the paper is torn and there are 4 small papers with a cipher on it (2, 4, 6 and 7) scattered through the map that exactly fit in the holes. This is how the broken calendar look like This is how the fixed calendar looks like A Moon is seen in the centre, which is, after Der Riese’s Eclipse and Ascension’s “Luna” step, the third reference to the Moon. “52 Años” can be read at the end, a reference to the Mayan Calendar repeating every 52 Solar years. “Astral” can be read under the calendar, a word relating to a non-physical realm of existence in which the physical human body is said to have a counterpart. A spiritual world. Furthermore, a lot of Spanish writing is all over the place, mosty barely readable. Translated, I have quoted some of them: De la noche means “at night” More I cannot make of this. Holy shit am I the only one who gets goosebumps here? Remember the ‘Beware the Six’ from Kino der Toten? I’ve always thought that sentence was something Kino-related, but the Six, whatever it are, might have a broader importance in the story. And why is it on this Maya calendar? Who wrote this? Since it is Spanish, could it be the captured Pablo Marinus? Or does it merely relate to the Central-American origins of the Maya that now speak Spanish? And who or what is D Jano? And why is Lenne able to make me wanna eat a spleen? What are your thoughts? Link to previous Order of Forgotten Mysteries
  13. Lets hope so. Classified bombed us with extra knowledge about the BO1 era, and I hope the next maps, as this is the likely end of the Aether story, will do so as well.
  14. There is a Keeper skull in Revelations as well. While it looks exactly like Nan Sapwe, I'm not totally sure if it is him. If not, it could be one of another Keeper which gave it's skull to humanity. What is interesting, is that the skull is not used to 'rebuild' a Keeper, but to build an altar which is used to summon one. @RequixEclipse Coming back on our soul discussion, what do you think of braindead Richthofen in Groom Lake after Moon (as heard in Classified). He does not carry a soul, since that one is in Samantha's body and later in Zombie Richthofen, and he is comatose/braindead. However, Primis, and many more, are also said to be soulless but yet they aren't braindead and can just do whatever they want. Why does this Richthofen need a soul to function while so many live without one? (Merci beaucoup, Schrödinger, for reminding me of these things!)

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