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  1. Electric Jesus

    ~Zombies Hangman~

    Ahh, ass back in the saddle. ~Zombies Hangman~ Test your might! _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Incorrect Guesses (0/6) : Hint(s): Scoreboard: 1st: Slade - 238 2nd: Lenne - 236 3rd: way2good - 201 Electric Jesus - 140 Nightmare Voyager (ripperino) - 134 The Meh - 116 ETEl2NAL407 - 100 Tasha the noob - 93 Delta - 68 Naitrax - 58 Rissole25 - 48 MurderMachineX - 46 Undead - 44 Chopper - 34 Cheesegrater28 - 32 Tac - 30 PortlyLlama80 - 22 Reddonkeyham - 20 Jake Duck - 16 wesleykg00 - 16 Silv3r Energy - 16 RequixEclipse - 14 83457 - 12 Anonymous - 12 zombieman9 - 10 XAvengedLullabyX - 10 OverWater17 - 10 RaidDzn - 10 PINNAZ - 8 nayrc - 6 jiipee95 - 6 unlawfully inacurate - 4 Ooka - 2 RiftRunner001 - 2 ZombieDreamerDan - 2 CrubZee - 2 BriggzyJ97 - 2 TheNathanNS - 2 Mr Swifty - 2 RZArazorSHARP20 - 2 Señor Festo Lithium - 2 JJMFP - 1 Rules: Guess the word/phrase correctly without any letters = 10 points Guess the word/phrase correctly = 2 points Stump the field (6 incorrect guesses) = 6 points One incorrect letter = 1 incorrect guess One incorrect word(s) = 2 incorrect guesses You may only guess up to 2 consonants or 1 vowel at a time Host adds hint after 4 incorrect guesses Numbers must be spelled out After 6 wrong guesses the person who did make the last guess gets the board If after two weeks, the person who is meant to be posting a board doesn't, another person is allowed to take their board and continue the game.
  2. Electric Jesus

    ~Zombies Hangman~

    Where are we going? Ahaha
  3. Have you ever seen a hilarious picture and wanted to share it with your pals on CoDz? Have you seen a video that you needed to show someone or you felt like you would explode? Do you have any unusual anecdotes or jokes or any other amusing bit of text to share? If you answered yes to any of these, this is the thread for you! You can post any picture, any video, or any text you want! My intention was for this to be mainly humor and amusement oriented so try To gravitate your posts towards that genre, but as the title says, you can literally post Whatever you want here. Far too often do I find myself looking at a video and thinking "CoDz must knoooww!!!!!" but alas it is not worth making into its own off-topic thread! Here's my simple solution: make a thread for EVERYONE to be able to post that one video, that one picture, or whatever else you wanted to but couldn't! GO FOR IT PEOPLE!! Note: While somewhat off topic, this is intended to be a more community-oriented thread.
  4. Electric Jesus

    ~Zombies Hangman~

    R M pls?
  5. Electric Jesus

    ~Zombies Hangman~

    A, por favor
  6. Electric Jesus

    ~Zombies Hangman~

    N, S ?
  7. Alrighty, so release is just around the corner, and one of my favorite pieces of news was the recent announcement that easter eggs will be disabled in BO4 until 10am PST on the 12th, so that nobody has solved the map before other people have even played. Solid move. That being said, despite possible leaks, we’re still totally in the dark on where the story is going precisely. However, there are a few loose ends that are screaming to be tied up, So I figured I would go over those and explore some specific wild theories I have. I think I’ll just start by stating my claims, and then I’ll build up a body of evidence for each. I’ll start with the easier-to-digest theories before I get into wild territory. A new trailer for Blood of the Dead dropped while I was typing this, so I’ll come back and update with details from the trailer if they’re relevant. The Aether story will continue in the DLC season with Victis as the main cast, and Primis stuck in Alcatraz, maybe dead. I honestly think it’s damn near 50 / 50 whether Primis or Victis are going to carry the torch from here on out (if the Aether story even continues after Blood of the dead.) There’s not a lot of direct evidence that Victis are specifically going to come back at this point in time, but circumstances seem to be lining up just right for that to happen. They made a big deal out of ending Season 1 of the comics with Victis being put on ice, and they drew big attention to it in the Intro cinematic of Blood of the dead. The timeline specifically says that Victis are being kept safe “until they are needed next.” This seems like Richtofen definitely anticipates / planned around needing them again, and I don’t foresee them returning to alcatraz some OTHER time to retrieve them. That being said, it could be the case that the easter egg ending involves all 8 characters escaping the island, or only 4. If the latter were the case, this is the perfect opening for Victis. Personally I really don’t want Primis to actually die for good, but if the next chapter in the storyline involves Victis on the outside trying to find a way to get Primis out of Alcatraz, that would be cool. I wouldn’t even be surprised if there was a mid-easter-egg cutscene, after which you resume the game as Victis. Nikolai is super important in Blood of the Dead. So treyarch specifically had nikolai’s name spoken in Mob of the Dead. It might have been a case where they just picked a random member of Primis to throw in there, so it being Nikolai specifically might not mean anything. However, I just wanna point something out about the chronology of Blood of the Dead. It appears to take place during their brief trip after the Zetsubou cutscene, except something has gone wrong. If that’s the case, then this version of Primis has not gone through to Revelations, and more importantly Gorod Krovi never happened, so Nikolai specifically is the only character who has had no catharsis, and won’t get to have “his moment.” Needless to say, the man might be on edge. Additionally, I believe Jason Blundell recently got asked by a fan who his favorite character is, and he said Nikolai. I’ll try to find a link for that one. Mob of the Dead was a simulation. Victis and the Mobsters are the same people. Alright, bear with me here. Ever since the end of Season 1 of the comics, I’ve had this nagging feeling that somehow, some-f—ing-how, the Victis crew are literally sal, finn, billy, and al. Let me explain what I mean. Obviously those 4 guys are real people that lived and died well before Victis were born. Allow me to digress a bit. I’m really intrigued by the whole Zero-base and Empty Earth from the comics. Victis get into four pods / hospital bed type things, it draws their blood, and then they suddenly find themselves in “Empty Earth.” It’s described as an alternate earth that’s unstable and falling apart, living things first. Uh, what? So they get their blood drawn, and somehow that “teleports them to another dimension?” I suspect that what’s actually happening is they’re entering into a simulated universe inside of the computer, with their blood samples jacking them into the matrix, so to speak. So from their perspectives, they sat down in these chairs, woke up in corresponding chairs in another dimension, ran some errands, came back to the chairs, and re-appeared in their home universe. I think from our perspective though, they just sat down in the first chairs and went to sleep. Getting back to the chairs inside Empty Earth was just the trigger to wake them up again. Ok, that all being said, I think it’s highly possible that the map Mob of the Dead takes place in a similar simulated universe, and that Victis, who are on Ice in alcatraz, are “playing” mob of the dead in their heads while in stasis. Each of them just has an alias as a real life italian mobster in the sim, because the lab was built with the creative direction of Stanley Ferguson, and he had an affinity for the history of Alcatraz. So Specifically, I think when Richtofen built the cryo pods in alcatraz, he made a simulated universe of his own to jack Victis into to keep them busy, and that universe is Mob of the Dead. Alright, here are a few bits of info that nudged me toward that Idea. There are two very interesting ciphers on Gorod Krovi I want y’all to keep in mind. Let me just drop these quotes here. I’ll refer back to them as Quote 1 and Quote 2. It was a strange flight, the plane crashed. We passed through time and space, in a way, flying over areas that shouldn't have been there. Hmm, there was no sign of any remains. I do not know where it landed, honest. Finally the lab is almost complete. Security measures have been put in place so the chance of detection by the Americans is very unlikely. We also have several agents embedded with the staff as insurance. We will keep the individuals in stasis, on ice to speak, and continue the specimen rotation once we finish drawing more power from the drill. Oh, I almost forgot, the sequencing for the current blood samples is as follows: SSMJABR The red eyes on Mob of the dead were a huge departure at the time. Not only that, but when you entered “115” on the number pad in the spiral staircase, you got an angry devil-voice quote that said something to the effect of “Not this time.” So, there’s no 115 going on here? When the map came out, I got the strong impression that these weren’t “normal” zombies, or maybe that they weren’t even “real” zombies. Not only that, but if you enter 935 on the same number pad, it plays the map’s music easter egg. So I’m left thinking that Mob of the Dead takes place somewhere that has Zombies, but no Element 115. At the time I initially thought it was literally hell (obviously it’s hell / purgatory metaphorically) but i don’t know now. Even if it was, it would still be a universe within the jurisdiction of Monty / the Apothicons, so I don’t see why it WOULDN’T have element 115. That would make sense if it were all in a computer, or some other form of artificial bubble-universe though. No need for 115. PLUS, not only are you rewarded with music when you enter 935, but in the intro Cutscene, Billy’s narration says that weasel launches into a song-and-dance routine at 9:35. It seems like they really want us to know that group 935 are running the show here. Additionally, let me direct your attention to a notorious Weasel quote on Mob of the Dead. When getting kills with a raygun, Al mutters to himself “Nikolai, Nikolai, Nikolai, why do I keep hearing that name?” At the time, once again, the only explanation for this was “Timey Wimey Stuff.” Booooo. I think if Al was actually just the avatar of one of the victis crew, (say misty for instance) and the primis crew are standing around the cryo chambers talking, her ears might actually be hearing nikolai’s name being spoken, so she / he is aware of it inside the simulation as well. Think of how in the movie Inception, they can hear music echoing down from the real world when they’re in a dream, because their sleeping body is actually hearing it in person. I might be going down a rabbit hole here, but an extension of this idea is that the mobsters breaking the cycle was the trigger to wake up victis. When you get to the final showdown on the GG bridge in Mob of the dead, killing weasel gives you the ending “life over. The cycle continues.” Alternately, killing the others gives you “Game over. The cycle is broken.” Not only that, but in the music trailer for Mob, there’s a quote about it all being a “sick, twisted, fucked up game.” I think treyarch might have been a lot more literal than we initially thought. I could probably come up with a lot more to say on this one, but I need to digest it a bit. Moving on. Primis are the ones riding on Icarus when it’s seen repeatedly in Black ops 3. Ok, forget all that simulation stuff for now if your brain hurts, cuz this might whether that’s true or not. Alright, so we all know that the plane from Mob of the Dead makes an appearance on several maps in Black Ops 3. On the Giant it appears on the roof of the teleporter building with the catwalk. On Shadows, it can be seen flying overhead, and in Zetsubou it is specifically seen popping out of a portal in the sky, only to disappear into another. Needless to say, this is weird. At this point in the story we’re not aware of any reason why the plane would be outside of San Francisco 1934, other than “timey wimey stuff,” which is an unsatisfactory answer. However, I think the answer might have been right under our noses the whole time. Lets gather more bits of evidence first. Sal’s Laundry Ticket On Shadows, in a zombie spawn window just outside the spawn room to the right, a player can actually find a laundry-ticket showing that Sal DeLuca recently got his suit cleaned, and that his order number was 56. As it turns out, the number 56 appears on the tops of some of the buildings in Morg City, seemingly drawn / arranged deliberately. If i remember correctly, these numbers are only visible to the player in theater mode, but I would imagine they would be visible from the air, like on a plane for instance. It seems to me that there’s some kind of coordinated effort going on, like for some reason it’s really important that the passengers on Icarus be aware that Sal’s number was 56. We know for a fact that Richtofen was once at large in Morg City, so he’s the most likely candidate for who drew the numbers on the roof. Additionally, we don’t actually know who’s on the plane that we see in BO3. It could be the mobsters, but I suspect that it’s primis themselves (from Blood of the Dead). Here’s what I think is going to happen when you fly the plane in Blood of the dead. Rather than just flying through the fog and hitting the bridge, you’re going to fly through a series of portals, pop out in the skies above each BO3 map, and THEN you pop back out and hit the bridge. Not only that, but if you look down from the plane, you might see the numbers on the rooftops below you as you pass over each map as an easter egg step, like a code you need to collect. I just adore the idea of Richtofen secretly putting codes on all of the rooftops of each map, so he can set up a ridiculously coordinated fly-over later down the line. Hell, the easter egg ending might even be Primis breaking the cycle by flying through a bunch of portals, then popping out and landing on the roof of The Giant. Referring back to quote 1 (finally,) who exactly is the speaker of this quote? Based on the way they speak, it sounds like Richtofen telling a fib. Maybe after they fly off the island successfully, Monty gets mad that they escaped damnation, so Richtofen says Quote 2 to him, withholding the location of the plane for some reason. Alright. I’ll be back to add more thoughts soon.
  8. Electric Jesus

    Trailer Hypuuuuuuuuuuuu

    This is actually the most gut-wrenching Zombies has been for me yet, with the possible exception of the Origins ending. I’m excited, but scared.
  9. Electric Jesus

    The Official Chicken Sandwich Enthusiasts' Club

    I sure did get an afterlife tattoo. Around april of 2017 I think. I honestly regard MotD as a personal Fable. Everyone’s got their own cycle to break. Purge yourself of your past in order to progress. You get the idea. Wild blood of the dead theories inbound.
  10. Leaks are for Geeks

    1. Lenne


      For the weak geeks.


      Also get a profile pic, please and update your signature and tell me what an amazing woman I am. ❤️

  11. Electric Jesus

    The Official Chicken Sandwich Enthusiasts' Club

    Seeing “Posted November 10, 2012” at the top of this post is trippy. Damn. I was user of the month, Black Ops 2 came out like 3 days later. Good stuff. I’ve got a lot to say about blood of the dead before it comes out, so I’ll try to crank out a thread soon folks. I’ll be much more active around here in the near future. Hype train has left the station.
  12. Electric Jesus

    The Official Chicken Sandwich Enthusiasts' Club

  13. Electric Jesus

    Ultimis in the Pentagon

    It's interesting that you say Yuri is already under Sam's control. I'm certain they won't leave out the iconic boss. If Ultimis are going to meet Yuri, then Classified is going to take place before "Five" but AFTER the events of the ascension radios. Jason Blundell said in one of his recent E3 interviews that the negative space in the timeline is just as important as the space that's filled in. I don't think anyone really believed that Ultimis flew a lunar lander directly from a theater in Berlin all the way to ascension. That's like 3000 miles. See, they could in principle go back and add inbetweenie maps for a lot of the story. Shangri-La to Area 51 anybody?
  14. Electric Jesus

    Samantha's secret identity

    Alrighty folks, it's been a bit. We all know of the creativity-enhancing powers your average household shower can bestow upon you. Consequently I was standing in my shower contemplating the meaning of life when a few radios and cyphers drifted back to me. I though really hard and arrived at what I think could be an equally insane yet plausible reality in revelations. I'll give my "evidence" first so I can build up to my idea more gradually. Firstly there's the fact that Samantha is not Maxis's biological daughter, as he says so in an origins radio. "The child's voice calls to me more frequently than ever. At first she spoke only of her imprisonment in a mythical realm known as "Agartha". Now she claims to be my daughter, even though I know no such child exists! (sigh) I fear my sanity may be slipping away from me." Bearing this in mind, let's move on. In Gorod Krovi, there is a cipher that once decoded, reads as follows: "Kronorium Excerpt B To allow quick travel between dimensions the Keepers created the transference device which is powered by the Aether. The Keepers have placed structures throughout the realms." While the full powers of the MPD have yet to be shown off in full, it's safe to assume that this is in reference to the MPD, as it was built specifically to house the Vril generator which summons the keeper on Der Eisendrache. There's also the fact that Richtofen needs the help of the keepers to access and interact with the MPD of D.E. as well. We can conclude that it was built by the Keepers, or at the very least designed to be compatible with their artifacts. Richtofen himself says in a moon radio that the device is "a direct connection to another dimension," which is consistent with the Kronorium's description of it, prior to us ever reading it. Remember how group 935 had scientists working on uncovering the secrets of the MPD around the clock for days, and then Samantha stumbles across it and within seconds fully harnesses its powers? It could be convenient timing, since she was the first person to touch it following it being filled with souls by Groph and Schuster. Let's also not forget that Samantha had a drawing on the wall in her room on Der Eisendrache, depicting a Keeper visiting her in her bed. Not sure what to make of that exactly. ...Backtracking a bit, although Samantha only appears to be repeating what she has heard from Maxis regarding the ancients, there's sufficient evidence to suggest that she knows more than Maxis ever did. For instance, she says "My father was so close," but then tells the player that they are "so much closer than my father ever got." How would she know how close either actually are if she doesn't already know the outcome or destination they are working toward? She even comes right out and says that their completion of the steps would open the gateway to Agartha, as well as giving highly specific instructions to the player regarding how to complete the steps. She obviously has more knowledge than Maxis himself ever had regarding the rituals of the ancients. Speaking of "The Ancients," Jason Blundell himself was asked in a recent interview whether the Keepers have ever been referred to as the ancients, to which he said something along the lines of "they may have been called that at some point." He is notoriously ambiguous in interviews, if he isn't just saying "pass" to a question altogether. This answer seems to me like a tentative affirmation though. (I will link this interview as soon as I find it again.) Monty on Gorod Krovi says in reference to Samantha... "she really didn't get much of a chance, did she? Right out of the gate she was thrown into this madness before she could ever figure out exactly who she was. " Now this could just be in reference to the struggles of children in general when coming to terms with their identity or their role in traumatic events, but to me Monty could be suggesting that she has a specific identity that she struggled to realize. It gives me a very "You're a wizard, Harry" kind of vibe. Let's review quickly. Samantha... -Is not Maxis's biological daughter, and her heritage is unknown. -Has extensive knowledge of the rituals of the Ancients, who are likely Keepers. -Has been in Agartha, a place the Ancients specifically developed technology to reach. -Is able to intuitively pilot the MPD, a device used and likely created by Keepers. -Has probably been visited by Keepers in her sleep. Yeah, you know where I'm going now. Samantha's a goddamn Keeper. A Gorod Cipher tells us that the Apothicons descended from Keepers, and we know from the shadow man that Apothicons can assume a human form. It stands to logic that if the Apothicons possess this power, the Keepers too might. My ultimate conclusion is this. Samantha has really been on the sidelines for the entirety of Black Ops 3. No longer. In Revelations, she is going to whoop some Shadow-Man ass.
  15. *cracks knuckles* Alrighty. I've kinda been sitting on this for a while, but here goes. There's a theory that I'm fairly certain is canon, although it's never been referred to explicitly in-game, and I haven't heard any talk of it in the theory community, so sit down and get ready for the crash course. It more or less reconciles the Multiverse theory with the presence and mechanics of Souls in zombies. First thing's first, let's make sure we get the theory's foundation in Multiverse theory. Multiverse So first of all, the multiverse theory (or some variation) is more or less explicitly canon. Multiverse has been used a lot of different ways in the history of fiction, so let's articulate exactly what the situation is in zombies. Monty's monologue about the metaphorical hammer describes the universe splintering into "a million" distinct universes, but his use of "million" could just be his informal way of saying "infinite." We know that there are alternate universes with completely different histories and character biographies (Origins timeline vs Original) but even within certain maps, there are known mutually exclusive timelines of events. Remember all the Black Ops 3 music videos? They tended to show the characters dying / failing their mission. Bam, alternate universe. That trend has actually been around as far back as the Der Riese trailer, and I suspected back then that it was a nod to the multiverse actually. Remember the classic Der Riese clock, and how it would always tick three seconds, then reset? I always thought it was kinda suggesting that every playthrough of a map is a different "universe" or potential chain of events. Meaning that on Der Riese, only the first three seconds after you spawn in are actually "canon," because everything after that is just the infinite branching timelines of all the potential paths the player can take. So we're embracing the full-on Einsteinian many worlds model of a multiverse here, where deciding to put on your red shirt instead of your blue shirt splits you off into an alternate universe, of which there are infinitely many. Alright, now embracing this alone leaves you with some problematic questions. If multiverse is true, why is the particular story we're shown important at all, if literally any cascade of events is equally "real?" How do souls work in conjunction with this fact? Why are the Ultimis souls special? Quantum Immortality Ok, so let's just start with what the theory states. There's a branching multiverse, and everyone in it has a "soul" or consciousness. HOWEVER, only ONE of the infinite versions of each person actually has their soul. Everyone's soul follows the path that makes that individual immortal. What this means is that from my perspective, I've never died, and in fact I never will, and this is true of everyone actually. You might think "but wait, I see people die all the time! Clearly not everybody is immortal." Well, their consciousness already diverged from your timeline, because your immortality became mutually exclusive with theirs. Their "soul" is still conscious, but it split off from your timeline and is carrying on in a timeline where they're still alive. Any other version of them is just a "philosophical zombie," or an empty shell more or less. It talks and behaves exactly like all the others, but incidentally the consciousness is a passenger in a different iteration of that person. So from your perspective you'll live forever, and from mine I'll live forever, and same for everyone. From my perspective I can pick up a gun and point it at my head and pull the trigger repeatedly, and for me every bullet will be a dud, and I'll live forever. You on the other hand might witness me blow my brains out, but that will just be the shadow of me that died in your immortality timeline, while the "real" me is still sitting there with the zombie version of you. And that's true for everyone. Alrighty, now let's apply this to the Zombies story. The entirety of the Black Ops 3 season was spent seeking out a very specific iteration of each character in order to obtain their soul. I believe that these versions of the characters were in fact the ONLY versions of them that had souls at all, and that those were their quantum-immortal selves. If you think about it, although 1.0 Dempsey and Takeo were in pretty rough shape in BO3, literally none of them would have died if Primis hadn't intervened. After they complete their mission, Primis have to perform an elaborate loophole with the blood vials to continue existing alongside the children, or the "real" versions of them that actually have souls. It might be kinda trippy to consider that Primis don't have souls in their bodies, especially since they are the ones driving events, reacting emotionally, etc. but yup, no souls. They aren't actually conscious but act exactly like how they would if they were. They have the same personalities, and consequently the same drive for self-preservation, so when they were scooped up by cosmic forces outside their comprehension, they naturally found a way to perpetuate their own existence, soul or not. Ok, other than the fact that this theory fills some gaps, you might still be thinking there isn't a huge body of evidence in its favor. There IS good philosophical precedent for this theory, but I think they sprinkled deliberate clues in. Looking back on some monty quotes from Revelations, I'm almost certain he was trying to tease at Quantum Immortality without coming right out and saying it. "Just so we're clear, I'm absolutely NOT talking about death. That's a whole other can of worms. Speaking of which... You know how people say when you cut a worm in half, both parts go on living? Well, they do! ...kind of. For a bit. But then one of them dies, not sure if it's the ass or the head, but that's the problem with worms. They're a bit short on distinguishing features. Uh, what was the point I was making again?" We can figure that the universe started out in one piece with linear time, and inhabitants that each had a soul. When the universe split, only the longest-living version of each person got the soul, because they're effectively the "highest-value permutation." I've also got an additional theory to tack onto this. Monty goes on to say eventually that even the Keepers were fractured across the dimensions, and presumably Monty himself. I suspect that the Shadowman is specifically an alternate version of Monty. Anyway that's all for now, I'm fairly certain that this Multiverse + Quantum immortality model is what we're working with in Zombies. The story of BO3 was a massive attempt to subvert all of that, so who knows where we're going next. Thoughts?
  16. Electric Jesus

    Quantum Immortality is Everything. Multiverse + Souls Theory.

    That's nicely put. The Der Riese clock thing is a bit of a long shot, but it's just always how I've looked at things. Let me try to explain. So obviously in our story, the characters arrive at Der Riese, do some stuff, and then teleport to Kino. But here's the problem. There's a million routes the player can take through the map, so you have to ask if any player-driven actions can be considered "canon," you know? like, did the characters arrive at Der Riese, shoot some zombies, repair some boards, hit the box, then leave? Or alternately, did our heroes camp in the spawn til round 20, go down a couple times, buy hella perks and then leave? Get what I'm saying? There's infinite "paths" the player can take, so is any one of those paths like "the real one" that they took? Consequently, my idea has always been that literally every playthrough of a map is a different fracture. Since a lot of what they "actually" did isn't set in stone, I imagined that every path the player can take is an equally valid potential route the characters took in-canon. This is true on every map, but I always thought the der riese clock specifically was a hint at this, because it seems to me that it's saying "literally only the first 3 seconds of your game are set-in-stone story-wise. The characters spawned in, and that's it. That's all that's "confirmed." after that, you're just loose in the soup of a million divergent paths they could have taken before they get to Kino, the next set-in-stone "confirmed" event. This is all kinda a side-effect of zombies having a semi-linear story but completely nonlinear sandbox-y gameplay. This is just my attemp to reconcile those, and Blundell has stated that there's nothing that is ONLY a gameplay feature. Everything is accounted for in the story. I hope i articulated that well enough. I'll get back to you on that second question.
  17. Electric Jesus

    Quantum Immortality is Everything. Multiverse + Souls Theory.

    To give you an example to explain, I read a short-story that grappled with Quantum Immortality. The main character grows old and watches his wife die of old age, so he tries to kill himself, but fails every time. He comes to realize that he is basically immortal, because his mind just continues in the timeline where the gun jammed, the rope snapped, he vomited up the poison, etc. he ends up being like 120 years old, unable to die. That honestly might have been what was going to happen to each of the O4 before Primis went off-script and killed them, but then again thats just one manifestation of this theory. There are multiple ways that "immortality" can play out, but in short, to answer your question @anonymous from any given person's perspective, they will never experience themself dying, or their consciousness ceasing. Well, the only characters whose souls are relevant to the main story are Ultimis, so we have no idea what the soul-status of any other character is (except mini-Maxis, who was stated as having no soul.) We have no idea which Pablo was the "real" one, and chances are it's not even necessarily the test-subject version of him, just statistically. Like, the Takeo soul from Zetsubou is probably in an entirely different universe than Gorod, so each person's soul kinda has "its own universe" because there are just so many universes and not enough souls to fill them all up. To be fair, this is kinda obvious and dumb, but it might be the case that the path the souls took to immortality was just the path to Monty's house. I mean hell, that sounds like a successful attempt at achieving quantum immortality, getting to basically God's house, turned into a child, and watched after forever. These souls definitely played the long con. One thing i can't really answer now is how souls "work" in this universe. For instance, when they first introduced the soulbox mechanic in zombies, I was like "alright alright, but this is a sci-fi game. That's just their way of visualizing you like, harvesting the 115's energy from the zombie's body." But then they made the existence of souls canon, which makes this really troubling. Still, I think I have an answer. It might seem like the zombies have souls, since when you kill them, sometimes a wisp of light will leave and fill up a chest / tube. I argue that this is NOT a soul. We know that the summoning key can handle souls, and it's the most powerful artefact in existence. I doubt those random chests on the ground in Origins were meticulously harvesting and preserving the souls of each zombie you killed. Richtofen says they "draw energy from matter, living OR dead." That makes me think that the whole soulbox thing / powering up the MPD is more of an energy-mass equivalence thing. Also, Monty describes this "energy" in more detail in Revelations. He talks about the "spark of life," which the Apothicons are harvesting. Hell, the first creature to have its "soul" enter the MPD is a rat that Schuster killed. If rats have souls, all bets are off. I suspect that all living things have the spark of life, but not a soul necessarily, and they are 2 different things.
  18. Electric Jesus

    Quantum Immortality is Everything. Multiverse + Souls Theory.

    Alright, so at one point Monty says that Richtofen went around collecting the souls, because they were the key to "closing off the other dimensions." I suspect that doing this was supposed to wipe out EVERY version of the O4 EXCEPT for the children. All the splinters were supposed to re-collapse into one "real" main timeline again, but Primis were persistent so they found a way to survive and piggyback on that with the blood. Now, they don't really explain the mechanics behind the blood vials very thoroughly, but generally we know that Primis drank the blood from a closed-off dimension, and that paradox stopped them from disappearing. A bit of a shaky explanation, we don't really know what their specific plans for the kids are, other than just keeping them safe. That's one of the main mysteries where we have nothing to go on. Monty does say that The House is a "Fresh Start," so it might literally just be that Monty wanted to get all their souls in the same place so he could start over the universe. Prior to that, everyone's souls got scattered across hella dimensions, so if Monty could re-consolidate all the souls and bring them together to start over, that might be a move.
  19. Electric Jesus

    The Official Chicken Sandwich Enthusiasts' Club

    So i got my first tattoo ;)
  20. Electric Jesus

    The Official Chicken Sandwich Enthusiasts' Club

    Der Riese IRL just passed over.
  21. Electric Jesus

    Between Heaven and Earth

    I'm a very "spiritual" person even though I'm pretty much part of the neo-atheist movement. (Ironic right? Electric jesus?) I like what Sam Harris said, something to the effect of "you can be deeply spiritual, and even become a mystic, and have transcendent experiences, without ever pre-supposing anything on insufficient evidence." I don't really "believe" anything until i think there's enough evidence to form an opinion, and I don't think any specific religion or set of beliefs in metaphysics has provided any evidence that makes it more plausible than the others. I do concede that i wasn't around 2000 years ago, so if there really was an intervening god performing miracles, I could have just missed it. But as a scientist (physics major) Occam's razor doesn't really give me any other choice than to proceed without that hypothesis. This might be more unique to me, since I've been pretty crippled with mental illness and all that jazz, but I've also ruminated on topics like Solipsism pretty extensively. You know, How your senses are unreliable, so the only thing you can be certain actually exists is your own consciousness. Everyone else could all be in your head. You could literally be a brain in a vat being fed sensory input, or even worse, your concept of a brain and the physical operations from which consciousness allegedly arise are just fabrications too. I used to worry, same with death, but then i figured fuck it. I'm faced with 2 ends of a philosophical spectrum here. On one end, the world as it is presented to me is base reality. Consciousness is just a product of biology, when you're dead that's it, and we're just a disinteresting species that arose on one of trillions of planets in a universe that started spinning through purely natural processes. If that's the case, well I didn't really mind not being alive before i was born (or before i was old enough to generate memories and be conscious frankly) so i doubt i'll mind when i'm dead. It might be scary in the final moments, but that will pass. If that's the case I only regret that I had such a narrow window in which to experience the universe. Alternately, there could be some grand scheme, and I'll wake up from the matrix, or ascend to meet god, or what the fuck ever. But at the end of the day, This is the world as presented to me, so i'll play by its rules for the time being. I could always blow my brains out to hasten the "moment of truth," but where's the fun in that? Might as well get my fill of this life in the off chance it's all there is. That being said, the world as presented to me seems to suggest that Science has the most compelling origin story of life and the universe. THat doesn't rule out some branch of science that permits an afterlife that we have yet to discover though. Look up Carl Sagan's piece on tesseracts and the 4th dimension. Objects (or entities) that exist in higher physical or temporal dimensions than ourselves behave a lot like how ghosts are often described. have fun sleeping tonight. Welcome to my hell.
  22. Electric Jesus

    In Your Darkest Moments

    Oh boy the thread for me. I haven't typed this anywhere before but a very close long-time friend killed herself a few days ago and I never got a chance to tell her that I loved her. I mean I'm sure she knew, but still. We'd been really tight since like my freshman year of highschool, over the years we talked a lil less because she got mixed up with some abusive assholes who didn't let her have platonic male friends. When she finally broke free she moved in with her dad again, and her and i started hanging out semi-frequently, having a really awesome time. It was funny, we spent like 3 years knowing each other only through social media, and when I knew her in high school, she had really short hair, so i got to see it grow out over the years just through her profile pics. Then like a week before I saw her for the first time in years, she cut it all off again lmao. Despite her unthinkably troubling past, she was really consistently happy and borderline giddy all the times I was with her. She was an intrinsically curious and playful person who loved animals and nature. The purest heart and most free spirit I've ever encountered. She hated not living on her own, so I basically offered to give her rides any time she needed any for any reason, cuz I could tell she really wanted to breathe. She really appreciated it and seemed super optimistic about life going forward, like her job prospects and long-term plans. Her and I talked through really unpleasant events in each other's lives, and probably saved each other repeatedly. Whenever she felt tired or sick I let her crash in my bed all the time while I just played zombies or whatever downstairs lmao. I remember less than a week ago, her waking up and asking what I was playing (It was Shangri-La) and I made a mental note to play with her sometime. Saturday I hit her up and was going to ask her to hang out the next day but she was with friends so I was like "i'll be polite and message her when she's home." Well, i never heard from her again. She killed herself in the park in which I spent my childhood, rather unexpectedly, after a few seemingly minor unprecedented psychotic episodes. I've been crying and collapsing on the ground and unable to go to work for days. I'm turning into Nikolai 1.0. It's just so fucking stupid man, she was so level headed. This was out of nowhere. It just goes to show, as Monty said, there are just some things you can't change. A momentary lapse of judgement can cause irreversible change for everyone. There's not much more to say on the matter really, although I still find myself editing this post. Saying my goodbyes to her in 6 hours. Love you Rose. PS Never had much of a family. Had to make do with what I had. Everyone here, + Rose, and others over the years, filled that gap nicely. Blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb. Love u guys <3
  23. George A. Romero has died. Where would we all be without him.

    1. The Meh

      The Meh

      Don't worry, he'll come back next round.


      ...if only... that just sucks.

    2. NaBrZHunter


      We will always have him with us...unfortunately. He never goes away for more than a couple rounds. ;)

  24. Bus Route B literally just got confirmed I'm dead

  25. Electric Jesus

    The Official Chicken Sandwich Enthusiasts' Club

    I identify with Badger on a spiritual level

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