zombo187

Well thats not necessarily true. I felt the same way recently. I played Tranzit so much that I got extremely worn out on it. Then I re discovered Survival Mode. It has what your looking for. Especially when you start on round 20 or 10 on Town. There is the old adventure we all loved so much. The EE or Quest really isnt that intricate in this game. Not nearly as bad as the old Black Ops EE Quests. People are just projecting a complexity onto it that doesn't necessarily exist. This is one of the things frustrating me about the forums lately. Everyone is over analyzing every nook and cranny of the game looking for the "Endgame". I understand this is part of the process of discovery, but also I feel more and more everyday like we should stop fueling the fires and just let them tell us finally. Zombo187 (PSN)

to add on to what samantha maxis said... Its not just that your posts are bad lately. (im not saying yours are, idk i havent seen them) but its also that in general people are posting bad topics and meaningless threads. It really is frustrating. I am a new member of the site and BEFORE i showed up. people were discussing zombies in a real and effective way. NOW all we ever see is people posting new threads about lame duck topics that dont deserve its own thread. The community at large is obsessed with minute details and the die hard zombies fans are getting fed up with the garbage that is flooding the site.

Ive actually posted on this before. Who knows where it ended up after they shuffle all the forums around, but I had similar theories regarding denizens.To sum up what my other post said basically; We know that the PaP Labs and the Power Room labs are inter connected either directly or simply through design and function. Personally I believe that there is in fact a railway connecting the two with a larger network of sites. We see the cages and we see the mess along with panels from doors or the ceiling showing physical evidence of an escape of some kind. I also believe the denizens to be genetically engineered with the intent of creating super soldiars by the American government. My logic being this : The US has "paper clipped" alot of scientists and data regarding 935 and 115. The saw their shortcomings and decided to resume experomentation without making the same mistakes as the germans. The US scientists decide to genetically engineer the super soldiars from scratch as apposed to taking grown men and trying to brain wash them. I think the denizens were designed to be humans with immunity or high tolerance to 115 by way of ingraining the 115 into their dna structure somehow. This is part of the reason we get teleporters from them. This process would also hypothetically make them put under Richtofen's control or at least his influence as it seems that 115 is STILL the key to everything.

this is a game mechanics glitch nothing else. I do feel like there is more to the jet gun. its known as the "wonder weapon" in this game so it probably has multiple uses. Ive experomented little with the actual gun tho.

this is a game mechanics glitch nothing else. I do feel like there is more to the jet gun. its known as the "wonder weapon" in this game so it probably has multiple uses. Ive experomented little with the actual gun tho.

I also have seen these red orbs. I have no idea what causes them. I honestly believe that they show up after you build the nav card table. I have not completed the EE Quest but when i was trying recently We built the jetgun and fired up the 115 and we were working on getting explosives to harvest the flesh. we had built the NAV table and started seeing the orbs around the mystery box. specifically the red orb. we saw it twice while hitting the box and both times the gun that came up was a chicom. I dont know the significance or if there is any at all. Just throwin the info out there.

This is exactly that... an observation. Seriously next time you wanna just write something down get a pen and paper, this post accomplishes nothing and doesnt even surve an informative purpose because as you said it has been said before and most already know.

we have been told before by Raz that we need to listen to what the characters say and how they interact with each other. I do think the inter personal story is very essential to understanding the story of BO2 and will continue to be the case across DLC. However I dont think we are meant to consider them to be teams. They have clearly given the characters an intricate backstory amongst themselves but we are left to figure out what it is. I have heard Rus say positive things about stuhlinger and I have heard Misty say positive things about Russman. Ive heard Marlton and Misty both say affectionate things about eachother, but have only heard Marlton say nice things about Misty. It seems to me that there is a strong group mentality forming but for whatever reason none of them really trust Stuhlinger. Stuhlinger Seems to be the runt or the odd man out of their group. Meanwhile it seems That Russ and Misty know eachother and that Marlton and Russ seem protective of Misty. She has the strongest dislike for Stuhlinger. Other notable things about the group dynamic... Marlton feels smarter than everyone else. Russ feels like hes in a position of leadership. Misty is smart and capable maybe even more than she leads on. Stuhlinger believes in aliens.

ur looking too much into it! once again... not ur fault tho zombies fans are obsessed. like when i was a kid why did all the power rangers make a wHOOSH sound just from moving their heads? why did TRANSFORMERS commercials ALWAYS show the kid transform the toy with only 1 or 2 fingers.... For appeal and display purposes. the trailer is NOT a cryptic clue for us to breakdown...ok.... its a trailer made to intice and intruige and excite us about the game. cut n dry. thats all.

well it was an idea. ive tried it as well with no luck. and your theories on the alternate timeline isnt exactly true. alot of in game references are made about modern events or locations. alot of game data is based off real world information. so u can have your view and ill have mine.

That actually isnt the same building. there are minute differences but still very different. just throwin it out there b4 we form wild theories.

Think about what your saying man ha. The "tower of babel" is a metaphor for reaching out to god. Richtofen is often described or self described as an "omnipotent being". A GOD. The original crew of characters got off of moon via teleporter. We can assume this because we have the option of still leaving after the earth is destroyed. therefore we have to assume that they can and did leave afterwards. There are arguments raging on this topic but its true. no matter how u look at it or how the devs intended you have to accept that in moon we can leave after EE back to earth and MUST assume that they DID. So they arent on the moon any more. If they were its been decades. what are they eating? how are they living on the moon? it doesnt add up. I know not everything in this game adds up but that would be a gaping plot hole that cannot be filled. Your theory would be better served assuming we are trying to reach the NPD symbolizing our "tower of babel" and reaching our God.

That's just Treyarch being lazy and not removing the texture.. Area 51 is on Earth.. Jeeze YES, agreement to the good sir above, Treyarch is indeed a little lazy, as proof, the file name for Moon is "paris_map." Let's just keep it real, none of us will know the real truth, unless we are on the 3arc dev team. On the contrary, 3arc does put A LOT of subliminal messages in their games.. it would make sense that the O4 are still on the moon, seeing as for the ToB EE Richtofen side, Power has to be on. because Richtofen needs a higher powered signal for the Aerth (pun) to recieve his transmissions. Whereas Maxis is undoubtedly still on the Aerth, using some form of Short band radio to transmit to the new Team.. just a thought to add to the mix.. That bad pun was not even a pun at all as Aerth is not a real thing that has two relevant meanings.... Secondly Maxxis is not "undoubtedly on earth". Maxxis is UNDOUBTEDLY dead. He died on the moon right in front of the NPD. In every single other instance of the NPD Lore-wise, The soul of the dying gets sucked into the NPD to give the connection to the Ether more power. So why is he "undoubtedly" on earth? because his voice is heard on radio bands? that contradicts how radios work in general, let alone how a ghost might use them to communicate with the living. The spirit doesnt need to be near it at all to use it to communicate. hypothetically anyway. Lastly RICHTOFEN is not transmitting to anything. He does not need the radios nor is he communicating through signals. He is only heard by the player that is Stuhlinger. The specific reasons are not known but it is theorized that he eats zombie flesha nd has ingested alot of 115 and is now being influenced by the 115 in the same way as the zombies but on a small scale as he is still living. dont take my comments for bieng mean thats not what im gettin at here. Im sayin you are presenting your THEORIES as facts. This is a no no when other people come here for reference on the topic and theres false data everywhere.

Thats what i said before. ppl are thick headed.

I was thinking about some things I read a few years back on popularscience.com's blog that was sent to my ipod rss feed regarding China and how they are spending billions in researching teleportation. I know sounds silly or fake, but trust me it is not. China and many other countries have recently discovered (95 or so) that through "quantam entanglement" we can teleport qubits of data across time/space. I just watched the tralier breakdown for "Die Rise" and heard that it was located in the far east and thaught China. I have been made to believe that this is indeed the location and it is confirmed. Here is an article related to Chinese Teleportation: http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2 ... -60-miles/ here is another: http://io9.com/5911298/china-is-winning ... ation-race We have experience with "Quantam Entanglement" already in moon with the QEDs. On a side note, a curious aspect of teleporting is that the original has to be destroyed for the quantum teleportation to happen, and the far molecules essentially instantaniously become the destroyed sent molecules with the data attached. This is the base principle for quantum teleportation in general. Now we are moving to china after the western US? I think that we are going to activate or steal their technology regarding teleporters. I am also aware there is the Vril aspect of the story line but I wont speculate on this because I don't know anything else yet about the new map. After realizing that we are moving to China next a few of the clues we have been given make sense now. Twitter images of the ocean. Song lyrics that include "Across the Sea" and things like that. But one thing that is truly bugging me is the fact that we are over seas and we have not "finished" Green Run Tranzit. I have a simple theory that I am working on in green run. I call it Operation Activate All Teleporters. I have been trying to activate or ready all available teleporters on the map. I believe there is 8 total. If we are traveling across seas and have no indication of a boat or plane I believe this only leaves us to assume that we would have to teleport there. Not proven but logical. We have this "Endgame" undiscovered. Is it not entirely possible that our Alternative ending could be a teleportation off map and then we end the game? This fully supports our ideas of Tranzit continuation through in game methods does it not? We are driving around on the bus in tranzit and we have teleporters already on map. we are powering an obelisk that is shooting energy at the skies and we dont know why. In game we could simply do the accurate steps and teleport ourselves to the next map once its available. In the next map we are higher up in the atmosphere already and we have evidence that China is actively pursuing teleporter technology in real world application? I think that more and more our exit from Green Run will involve in some way the teleporters linking up all at once. We have evidence of this because the blueprints for creating at the tables all have a "link to mainframe" picture on it. the same one we see on the loading screen of "der reise" so we know thats what this means. zombo187 on psn Who wants to be part of history? Ha not really but WE could be the first to figure this out! I dont believe anyone has done this. I have seen multiple times, being in a custom game match with a private party that the game will award NAV cards to people who shouldn't have them! Only if 1 person or more has completed the Maxxis quest tho. Something with the NAV cards is fishy and we should explore that. I need help to build the NAV table and Jetgun to accomplish our "Endgame"

you ve got your gears spinnin now but you are making a few classic mistakes by assuming this, that and the other. By this I mean that you cannot assume that this map takes place after green run. it is very much possible that this is before green run. 2 your expecting a return of tranzit as if tranzit itself is our story line. the story line unfolds across all aspects of zombies with each mode and subtle clues advancing our understanding. seeing a return of the bus driver is possible although unlikely. each map has its unique factors that make it special, and the bus is green run's x factor. i would not EXPECT to see a return of tranzit. i only say this because they may go another route we are over seas in china. but if the mode then returns you are now happier! im just saying expect the unexpected in general. what we do know from the traier and the poster and the dev commentary is that we are in the far east, we are in a high rise and we see distroyed buildings with a meteor shower occuring. we have not seen marlton in the trailer. but as we know he is also alone or with someone in the bunker on nuketown... so maybe he stayed behind to help someone OR could possibly be before they met up. (my point here is that we dont know the exact time frame even if we know the time period.) what we can assume; that there will be another easter egg, there will be another unique enemy class, and we will be facing alot of zombies. this is all we can actually say we know about the new map. what else needs to be said tho really? it drops in a month and god forbid your actually surprised and enthusiastic about not knowing exactly what to expect. i will say however that i am interested at how this high rise or "die rise" advances the story line. and also how we are going to go up in stories. will we have a lift system? we know that we drop down through broken or derelict elevator shafts and we have seen stairs in the trailer but whats THIS maps "x factor"?

just because we didnt see him in the trailer doesnt mean anything.... once again people are reading way too deeply into EVERYTHING. cool ya jets man... its only a month out, you really cant wait till then to continue your wild speculations? ur setting urself up to be unreliable and un credible. just sayin.... u go callin EVERYTHING before it happens, and your wrong most of the time, your gonna be the boy who cried wolf and no one will bother with you any more.

Yes, I know that people concluded it meant 12/12/12. I'm just not that happy with that. I mean, why would he tweet that? Especially as an exponent. I guess my mind just wanted SOME mystery after a month with nothing. you and MANY MANY others are obsessed with the mystery of the game. take some things at face value. not everything directly relates to in game material. stop looking for secrets and take a vacation.

preach it man! learn to play the game or GTFO. the game begins easy and ends hard for EVERYONE there is no reason you cant learn to be good naturally. glitches are a crutch and if i am online personally i wont play with ya if your tryin to glitch.

you are right about one thing... showing compassion will save your life! if you start round 1 and dont kill a single zombie you can live forever! if you kill all zombies except 1 we dont finish the round and can build. Richtofen gets stronger for every zombie we kill. this is the reason we go up in rounds and the zombies get stronger. (not trying to be condescending, you prob know this already)

The OBJECTIVES are done for now. The audio files don't confirm any more steps. BUT thats not to say we have discovered all there is to find.... JUST PLEASE stop being so obsessed.... everyone in these forums is forming an obsession! people CANT let go....just wait...be patient young padawan...

well you cant miss it if your looking. he posted the image. I dont know why or what either but you cant act like its not there.

It is a bit.... but no more than ballistic knives or sniper rifles... Treyarch gets TONS of feedback on what should return or be cut and obviously the fans spoke loud n clear about wanting the ballistics back and the bowie knife.

thank you! some common sense in the thread finally. Maybe we are wrong, where is area 51 then? if it was dislodged as ppl say... it would be fragmented into a million pieces like we see in the BO2 zombies screen. also would be hurling through space but not quick enough to get that far away from earth. for argument sake ill say perhaps your correct and this is dislodged from earth and hurling away. the earth wouldnt be fixed in the sky we would have no atmosphere and absolutely no gravity. Where else are you proposing AREA 51 is? its on earth. we know where its at. case closed as far as im concerned. i am open to new data tho.

I would also like to add that the bus deop does have a fallout shelter or bomb shelter on the exterior right side by where we find our nav card. perhaps its plausible that this picture depicts an explosion because the area in the 50s was actively researching nuclear energy at the Hanford site which was involved with operation paperclip to integrate german scientists into our nuclear program. So my BEST guess at this particular time is that the post card is meant to be a retro image depicting the areas interest in nuclear energy. the card says GREETINGS as if to welcome newcomers to the region. The bus itself is most likely serving as a local guide for scientists or new employees migrating to the area for work. I can see this post card filing under the same category.