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@BennetsGreen Ah, but comic strips and depictions have been around as panels since the early A.D. time. They weren't fully emphasized into comic strips that we generally see in newspapers until the 1800's, and then as anthologies/books in the early 1920's. So I agree with you now that the idea of space guns was not exactly conceived during the time of Origins. In fact, the same could be said for comic books in that matter which would mean Dempsey nor anyone would know about comic books. Got me there, friendo. Weasel lived in a time where the insurgence of comic books was at an all-time high. Their popularity sky rocketed and it's no wonder why he got into creating/drawing them. Superheroes and space comics were a pretty big deal - hence, the beloved creation of space guns. But to point that relationship between Origins and MotD is still iffy. @Nightmare Voyager Correct, but breaking the fourth wall is different than stating something that should not exist in a given situation. I mean, we've seen our characters talk to US - the players - in older maps, taunting us to drop some ammo and all that hubba hubba. The fourth wall is about reaching beyond the fictional storyline and entering our reality as if to comprehend that they're fictional and we're real...or the other way around. But talking about a comic book that potentially never existed is not a fourth wall reference.

To be honest, the idea of a ray gun has been around in comic books for several decades - if not - a century. It's closely based on the ideal "space gun" - an intergalactic weapon that shoots lasers or beams. So to say that Dempsey saw it in a comic book and then relate it back to Weasel is not very likely...but still plausible! And also, we know that Origins follows an alternate timeline compared to the original storyline in World at War up until Buried in Black Ops II. In that case, we know Origins ties in with The Giant in its own reality whereas Mob of the Dead and Shadows of Evil share the same timeline. Whether those four are in the same path is questionable.

Or it could just be that Weasel broke the looping cycle of his demise by reversing the action of murder. Yet, he never actually escaped purgatory, per say. That would make him somewhat an "omnipotent being" in that realm. And if we do find the SoE 4 crew to be in said purgatory, who else to hold power in that dimension other than Arlington himself? He knows purgatory very well and is knowledgeable in how to escape for the most part. Over time after MotD, it's possible he could've gained certain dark powers. But back on the topic of Nero: definitely the oddball of the group. With the others, it's easy to see what crimes they could have committed. Out of all of them, however, Nero deals with something much sinister and is closer to the darkness than the rest. Where Richtofen and Samuel dwelved into the extraterrestrial and conspiracies, Nero deals with black magic and possibly voodoo.

Definitely gonna wait until the next drop. I got my trigger finger ready on all game outlets.

@Rissole25 Then NO4 Richtofen does a good job of keeping a steady face, haha. We know him killing his original was not the plan the rest of the crew had in mind. He probably knew it would end in two ways, as he was very calm about deciding to rewrite history himself "for a better future".

Still, seems like the original plan was to not kill O4 Richtofen and prevent him from continuing what we know he'd do. Additionally, they would make sure Samantha is never in full control of the zombies. But NO4 (that term is much better @Rissole25 ) Richtofen kills his original out of...hatred? I mean, he didn't look to have to see his original self at all. And in that event, NO4 Richtofen's only course of action is to rewrite history themselves with limited knowledge.

Keep in mind that the Origins Crew went through the light a.k.a. teleporter at the end of Origins. And we know it's such because the action dialogue states this. I have a a feeling that all four landed on each of the four teleporters in Der Riese at this very moment of the outbreak. It makes complete sense. They probably knew of Old Richtofen's plan via passing through the Aether. They definitely gained knowledge about the future, but that was disclosed in Origins at all. Perhaps they went through other places and linked the pieces, or met with new Maxis - the one person that fully knew Richtofen's plans.

So the "greater evil" turns out to be Origins Richtofen? Not sure if that's supposed to be ironic or actually the hidden plan. Still, can't stop laughing at Nazi Richtofen. Dempsey: "Richtofen - whatever you're thinking of doing, don't do it!" Nikolai: "You do NOT want to meet whatever's on the other side of that door." Takeo: "You cannot begin to comprehend the greater evil you'll unleash!" Richtofen: ಠ_ಠ -hits button-

Is no one noticing the zombies with different emblems on their helmets? Certainly something we've never seen before. And yeah, I picked up on the Mauser returning...sweet!

Old Richtofen: "Old-New" Richtofen: He's missing that, and the eagle insignia on his cap. His badge is removed as well.

When I saw the trailer:

The monster is probably some Nova Crawler juiced up. Man, those drug testing laws had nothing on the '30s. Also, I will officially be broke in November. Worth it.

Duuuude...a Zombies escape room that involves puzzles and I'm not there? Just let me cry in my corner as I hug all the BO titles closely.

​Oh bby you love me! You really do! We will do several kinds of streams, particulary everything CoD Zombies but not limited to modes such as Multiplayer, Exo Survival, etc etc.

I will make love to Vonderhaar's head if I see any kind of Zombies collectible in the package.

I should go down there and hitch a ride on their bus. Then I get uber access to their secrets.

​I'll see what my magic fingers can whip up.

​ ​Thanks mate! We're slowly making design changes for a cleaner, more stable look. If you have any suggestions let us know.

@Slade y u brk ma hart bby?? I figured it would be something along those lines. I was just interested by more proof of Russian involvement in the moon base. We already had a familiar idea of their presence but this is hidden out of plain sight as well. Re-used or not, I'm quite confident that Treyarch purposely knew about the Russian writing...right?

PS4 could be getting DLC first instead of Xbone. Or they might not. We don't 100% know, but hell - doesn't stop us from thinking about it. All we know for sure are rumors are flying around, and it's best to take everything you hear/see with the tiniest grain of salt unless it is matter-of-factly announced by Activision/Treyarch/Microsoft/Sony themselves. Would it suck to have Playstation get DLC early? For Xbox players, yes. At the same time, however, this gives us a second chance of whether to buy it or not? [Although I'm pretty sure we'd by anything Treyarch gave us even if we didn't like it.] And vice versa for Xbox. The world may never know.

No need to apologize @DeathBringerZen, I was just saying that so many people are threatening to jump ship over a small detail like old-gen porting. It was clearly mentioned from the initial source of this thread that Treyarch was leaving the port to two other developers so the current generation consoles won't necessarily be affected or reduced to match the content of the 360 or PS3. Like said above, it will probably be a low-quality port like the Wii did for Black Ops. In fact, I was an advocate of porting to older consoles so long as the initial quality of current gen experience wasn't reduced. A majority of One/PS4 fans simply want their predecessors to be left to rot, thinking that it would hinder future performance. It won't, especially since this is Treyarch we're talking about. Now with this new press release, we can safely trust their judgement and keep our hopes up. They will deliver a great game no matter what - now, they just won't be able to blame it on porting. @the_clay_bird I get the Multiplayer aspect on it completely; however, I highly doubt the number of players per console gen will be an issue considering that - as you and others have reiterated thousands of times on the topic of older consoles - many people have upgraded to newer, more powerful hardware (current gen). It would takes a few more years until the amount of available players in Black Ops 3 would reach such a low that it would alter your enjoyability in Multiplayer.

People really like complaining, huh? You won't know that the quality will suffer. All that we know is there are two other developers that will be concentrating on the port for older consoles so Treyarch can focus on the current gen hardware. Y'all are taking a drop of rain as a flood; you don't know what kind of quality the game will deliver so don't bring down your hopes just because they did something that means nothing for you. I'm just gonna take whatever Treyarch delivers us with reasonably-high expectations but will indefinitely enjoy myself while playing. No point in emphasizing unnecessary negativity for a game we know little about. Looks like I gotta buy a trampoline for you guys since you love jumping to conclusions.

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I dropped a couple bills to get an Xbox One. Just to get this game. Now my body is ready.