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  1. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwm_VHFLzSrtalFIWVF2ZnhkOVE/view?usp=sharing Been a while since I posted here. Thought I'd leave this here for anyone who wants to NOT break their neck reading the damn thing. Cheers! PS: ill also upload BO3 when I find out how to read this more.
  2. Hello everyone! With the release of Gorod Krovi, a significant amount of the story has been realized and certain "revelations" (wink wink) have been made. One of the biggest is Dr. Monty, the creator of the perk machines and Gobblegums. He has been lurking in the background for a while now and while many of theorized that he could be the "M" on a letter in SoE or another name for Maxis, no one has really been able to put two and two together. Until now. With the release of GK, we got our first few glimpses at Dr. Monty, in both his style and attitude. With this post, I would like to dedicate it to putting down every single thing we can find on Dr. Monty. This can be anything from quotes, ciphers, radios, ANYTHING that mentions his name. For now, I am going to leave out theories, because, though they are cool and fun and unique, they are not solid evidence compared to the previously said items. So without further ado, let's analyze! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Who is "Dr. Monty"? Dr. Monty appears to be the creator of the perk machines and gobblegums. He has never been seen in person. He has only recently been heard on Gorod Krovi. It is unknown if he ever talked to the characters previously. We do not know his intentions, other than that he is helping the Origins 4 under the guise of Dr. Maxis. We do not know if he is a human, apothicon, or whatever, but a recent quote has pointed that he may be a "being", a power or force, omnipotent. He has a very nonchalant way of speaking, saying whatever comes to his mind, even if it means cussing. He can be direct but also beats around the bush when he speaks. We discover that his whereabouts is at some sort of House, or rather "THE" House. While he has plans to fix the universe, he has mostly had Richtofen do the dirty work, from getting the Kronorium, finding the exact souls needed to close the dimensions. His abilities seem vast: He is able to teleport the characters to different locations, possibly through time and space. He has created drinks that boost abilities and even chewing gum that enhances it further. However, part of his gobble gun creation lies in the fact that he uses Divinium, otherwise known as element 115, to create them. To be able to concentrate such an element into these forms must take an awful amount of knowledge. Furthermore, that he can explain and grasp the idea of multiple worlds and dimensions makes it more likely he has many agendas. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Der Reise - Scrap Paper Image - Dr. Monty's Schematic This schematic is signed by Dr. Monty. Discovered in Der Reise, it depicts a sphere in the middle, with a circle and a KN 44 in side of it and 4 smaller circles around it. There has been debate on what all of this could mean, but none of it has been confirmed. The most interesting part is that whatever this is, it was signed off by Dr. Monty. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quotes concerning Dr. Monty Credit to JusticeOfKarma on Reddit for compiling a current list. Wisp #1 "Hello...? Testing, testing, te- do you hear me? Testiiiing, testi-- actually, I don't know why I'm doing all this. I'm almost one hundred percent certain that you CAN hear me. So let's not fanny about. OK. Where best to start ... the universe is big. Really big. So try to imagine the biggest thing that you can. And then imagine that you're waaaay off. It's a million, billion, trillion, eeahhh .. zillion? Times bigger than that. Actually, don't worry about the size - it's fucking huge. Let's just leave it at that. More important than it's humongous proportions is the fact that the universe is a living, breathing thing ... ever changing, ever shifting. Existing across and beyond time .. and space, itself. With me so far?" Wisp #2 "Alright! So you've got this universe; this big, change-y already volatile universe... and then you shatter it with a hammer. A metaphorical hammer - and it cracks and splinters into a million other universes. All coexisting, at exactly the same time. (sigh) Do you have ANY idea how difficult that is to keep track of? I may be omnipotent, but I can't be everywhere." Wisp #3 "Now, if it had been ENTIRELY up to me you numbskulls would be the last people I would entrust with this - but, due to factors outside of my control .. (presumably deep sigh, a dragon breathes fire around here so I can’t tell exactly) I know there's a lot going on, I know it's a lot to take IN - but the universe is deeply unstable. Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better. Crazy as things are, I will try my absolute best to give you all some one-on-one time... some good old fashion TLC! Do this right, and everything will be okay. Pinky promise!" -- (at this point, characters need to go down to hear Dr. Monty) Dempsey #1 "Alright Tank, I'm going to need you to trust me - ok? You've done really, really well so far but I honestly think it's going to be easier if I just talk you through some things. Now let's be honest, you don't really know who you are do you? You've been bouncing along time and space for years, yelling all sorts of obscenities - by the way your language is fucking disgraceful sometimes, you should wash your mouth out with soap! Anyway! We'll talk again soon and I'll explain everything. Just give me a little time to double check on my ... flow charts." #2 "Right! Uhhh, where were we Tank .. actually, more to the point - where ARE you? Are you up to speed, do you know exactly what you're doing - or is the 115 delusion so bad you're still calling in field reports? Even though no one is listening! Sorry, aha - that's unfair. I was listening - I heard every word you said. You're a good soldier. You always were!" #3 "So! Richtofen .. I'm kind of surprised you've gone along with him this far! Didn't you despise him at one point? Anyway .. keep a close eye on him - I think he's up to something." Takeo (unintelligible due to audio overlap) Nikolai "There are certain things that you can't ever change, Nikolai. All I ask, is that you do the right thing. The right thing .. for everyone." (unintelligible due to audio overlap) Richtofen #1 "I have to admit something to you, Edward. Something I've never ever ever had to admit to anyone before. (unintelligible) quite a bad thing … I don't understand you, (unintelligible). I don't understand a single thing about what makes you tick! You are the closest thing to an absolute distillation of obtuse obstructionism of unparalleled maniacal chaos in human form as it is possible to imagine." #2 "Look - I know you've had a lot to deal with. I know how hard you've been trying, but I really can't be sure EXACTLY why you're doing it! I mean, it's not as if you owe Maxis anything .. Is it?" #3 "I don't know - maybe some of the paranoia is starting to rub off on me! But let me tell you this, my little german friend .. I've got my eye on you!" Credit to Reddit user FieryPanther for these - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Will update the list later, But for now, please feel free to add your own in the comments! Please leave credit for those who found it if using a source.
  3. AlphaOmega

    Zetsubou No Shima Recap

    Hello! Welcome to a recap of the events that transpired in Zetsubou no shima. I know this is a bit late, but for those who haven't yet done the EE or just want to know where the story is going, this is for you! NOTE: this write up only takes into account actual dialogue or scenes. There are no theories here. Just exactly what happened in the map. Zetsubou no Shima After the events of Der Eisendrache, the Origins 4 manage to find their way onto a vessel. However, they are quickly caught and detained. This is where the opening cutscene begins. They are quickly interrogated by the the vessel's crew. Through a twist of fate, the seas create a massive wave that unbalances the crew, allowing Dempsey, Takeo, Nikolai and Richtofen to escape. They manage to escape the ship just as it blow up. They regroup near an overturned life vessel and set their sights on a far off island. They are quick to discover that this island is most likely home to Division 9, a section of the japanese miliary that was dedicated to the advancement of technology, no matter the cost. They soon discover the wretched experiments of the division, ranging from the occasional zombie to spiders and even a large plant like creature. Takeo reflects that he feels a connection here, and that he remembers the experiments here, most likely a side affect of being in a universe that belonged to another Takeo. Or element 115, no one could tell anymore. Soon, they come across a massive altar. Richtofen makes note that he recognizes these symbols. They each take a bloodied skull from the altar. Returning to their original landing location, they place the skull on the altar. portals appear, allowing more undead to come through. The crew quickly dispatches them before they reach the altar. The crew then realizes they will need to discover more altars and dig further into the island. As they make their way inland, they encounter many strange sights; a small pond with massive cocoons hanging from the rocks. Near lab B, they find another small pond filled with green color. As they walk near the catwalk, a man begins to wail "HELP" from the other side of a door. Soon enough, a zombie scientist appears and drops a liquid vial. Richtofen says it may be useful for something later on. Having restored power to both lab A and B, they return to the massive bunker that was in between lab a and b. The doors unlocked, only for a massive monster to attack. They quickly dispatch it and continue onwards. They manage to restore power to the entire facility. However, growling noises and rumbling could be heard throughout the entire compound. They continue to fight their way through, completing rituals, discovering more of the twisted experiments of Division 9. They eventually come to a cavern flooded with water. As they navigate it, Dempsey notices a further flooded area with an odd plant. Harvesting it, he wonders what this may be used for. Meanwhile, Richtofen looks at some of the left over notes created by the scientists. He quickly deciphers a few and realizes he can extract the venom from a spider. Luring one to a cage, Richtofen traps it and proceeds to extract venom. The notes speak of a concoction that requires three elements: a special plant, a liquid solution, and the venom of a spider. Richtofen meets with Dempsey to attempt to recreate the experiment on a nearby work table. Their suspicions are confirmed when the final product emerges. They keep it close at hand, hoping that it may lead to greater yet discoveries. Once they had all completed their rituals, they all proceeded to meet back at the big altar. Placing down the skulls, a secret passage appears. At the bottom, they find a skull. Nikolai foolishly grabbed it, triggering a Keeper manifestation. They manage to fight them off and take the skull. It mysteriously manifests into 4 separate skulls. Takeo manages to find a secondary ability of the skull, one which shows secrets. He looks to a wall nearby and illumiates it. A mural appears; they others do the same and reveal 2 more. They discover that the people of the island worship the Keepers. Later on, Nikolai happened to glean upon blueprints that show that the facility had a lower floor. However, it seemed unaccessible without a gas mask. They proceed to make one, allowing them to inhale freely without worry of the spores around the island. As they investigate the elevator, they reveal the secret wall. The elevator is missing 3 cogs. The crew begins scouring the island for possible fixes. They are sure what they are looking for is at the bottom. Dempsey soon notices a plane flying low overhead. He begins to think that maybe shooting it down will allow them to salvage it for a gear. In the armory, a massive Anti Aircraft gun stood proudly. However, Dempsey could not find the ammo. Fortunately, a nearby growing glowing purple plant splits open. A massive AA shell pokes Dempsey's eye. Taking it and loading it into the cannon, Dempsey aimed carefully and took out the Airplane in one fiery explosion. However, he now had to find the part, to which he groaned... Meanwhile, Takeo and Nikolai find another cog at the docks, near a zipline. They figure that they could use the zipline to drop down and grab the cog. They attempt it several times but fail. The zipline is apparently magnetic and will not allow them to loosen their grip halfway through the trip. Takeo suggests that they electrocute the panel, which would allow them to fall down. However, where were to they to find a random electric source? Fortunately they noticed that the clouds overhead struck at random intervals. If they could pinpoint it just right, or predict where it might land, they could harness it with something like a piece of metal, maybe a pole. Nikolai suggests the shields they built. At that exact moment, lightening struck the altar. Nikolai grinned. Whey they investigate, the realized that all the poles had their symbols lit up. They crew was so used to killing zombies, they had passed the trials without even trying! Nikolai and Takeo hold their shields ready for a lightening strike. As the shaft of light descended from the sky realm, they managed to catch the electricity on the shield. Satisfied, they returned to the zipline and attempted they plan. Succesful, they take the cog piece back to the elevator... Richtofen stood amazed. Discovering a blocked off area in lab A revealed another floor filled with diagrams and notes about a topic any good scientist knew couldn't possibly exist today: dragons. Looking upon that notes, he realizes that Division 9 managed to discover these creatures and could have used them to turned the tide of the war, and most likely, the world. Nearby, he discovers cracked eggs, one with a cog piece inside. Taking it, he begins to leave the room as zombies beginning to groan. However, before he does, he sets the room ablaze, destroying the only research in the world capable of proving dragons were real... The team meets up at the elevator and put the cog. The elevator creaked and growned, opening for the crew to go inside. The pile in, squashed together. They descend to the bottom floor, putting on gas masks to ensure minimal exposure to the toxin. Massive vines block their path. However, their weapons and even the kt-4 are not strong enough. Richtofen remembers that there were notes that explained a possible formula that could strengthen the formula of the acid. Returning to the surface, they look over the notes. Nikolai began firing at anything he could. However, luck shined through brilliance. He happened upon a small cavern that lead to a massive cave. The crew slide down into the cavern, only to be greeted by the mother of all spiders. The massive arachnid fought viciously, spitting acid, slamming the floor, and giving quick birth to zombies. Finally, they conquer the massive monster. As they leave the tunnel, Richtofen rips off a piece of the mom spider's tooth. He figured if he could refine the formula with this, the effect would be twice as powerful. They locate another vial in a cage in Lab B. Dempsey tried his hand again at making a plant using some oil water he discovered during an unfortunate slide down a sewer tunnel. The result was a brand new plan, one with a weird smell. The team came back together and mixed the ingredients, creating a new serum with blue acid. They load up and return to the massive vines in the basement. After clearing the hallway, they arrive to a large metal door. On the other side, a massive monster creature lies dormant. They shoot one of the vines with upgraded kt4. The monster responded by slamming down a branch. Suddenly, monsters began to appear from the ground, attempting to protect their master. Thee crew fought valiantly, taking down as many of the monsters as they could. Once in a while, the massive monster would let its guard down, allowing them to fire another shot at its week points. Once the beast had had enough, it roared loudly and dissolved into disgusting puddles. In the main chamber sat a lone man. The man recognizes Takeo who, unsurprised, shares the same memory as this man. They had found the man they were looking for. Takeo 1.0 tells them his tragic tale: how his amazing feats and loyalty to his homeland and empoeror had ultimately lead him to be blinded. He reveals that the one who did this to him was none other than the Emperor himself. This revelation causes Takeo to be taken aback. Richtofen looked away. It truly was a horrible sentence. Takeo 1.0 understands what must be done. He takes Takeo's blade and prepares to commit the japanese ritual suicide of honor. Takeo honored Takeo 1.0 by being his Kyshunin. Takeo 1.0 slips the blade into his belly and cut horizontally. Takeo proceed to deal the final blow. The Summoning Key glowed with power. Now 3 souls resided in it. Dempsey told Nikolai to prepare. However, Richtofen interrupts say that there must be a set of events set into motion. They then begin to teleport to a different location. Upon return, they each of 2 blood vials. Dempsey: "Welp, didn't see that coming" Richtofen: "Think of it as our Insurance policy; in case we don't like where we end up" The heroes return to the surface, ready to face the unknown future. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thank you for reading! Please let me know if I left out any notes!
  4. Hello everyone! I’m here today to go very in-depth about the infamous ‘insurance policy’ that Richtofen talks about at the end of the Zetsubou no Shima EE. Spoilers ahead! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ So let’s begin with the exact dialogue: Dempsey: Gotta admit: didn’t see that coming. Richtofen: Call it…our insurance policy. In case we don’t like were we end up. So let’s start exactly at Dempsey’s part. He didn’t see this coming. We should try to narrow this down in an opposite way, in that what he HAS seen. -Memories of Dempsey 1.0 -Dimensional travel and time distortion; Agartha, alternate universes -Apothicons, Keepers, and other worldly beings (BUT NOT THE GIANT MONSTER FROM SOE) -The summoning key and most of its abilities -Gruesome experiments of group 935 and Division 9 -He knows enough about Richtofen’s plan to carry it out himself (evidenced by round 1 quotes) -Supernatural forces from beyond the grave (Ghost wolf, demons, mother nature) -The effects of 115 So where does that leave us? Well, hard to say. In a sense: Dempsey has seen a lot of SHIT but this takes the cake. It is on a level that even at this stage, he could not have forseen what just occurred. At most, it has to top BLOWING UP THE MOON and killing himself. But before we speculate what that could be, lets look at Richtofen’s quote. This is the real meat of the controversy. Richtofen calls whatever they just did their ‘insurance policy’. It is important in how it was phrased: he is simply “calling it” that. That means he is either downplaying it from something very big and unimagineable or playing it up from something that doesn’t seem super exciting. From Dempsey’s quotes, we could hazard the guess that it is something BIG. The next part is “In case”. Seems small, and a fragment sentence, but it speaks volumes when spoken by Richtofen. By now, we have established he has a “plan”. However, just by this statement, he obviously has doubts about where it could go. This means that he has knowledge of multiple outcomes. With that, he has devised an alternate plan to ensure…hmm…we don’t actually know. All we know is that he will “bring order to the universe” and that only “he can do what is necessary to fix the universes”. We know he is taking the souls of the 1.0s but we don’t know what they will be used for. We ASSUME it is a ritual, but that’s mainly conjecture, though provided has good evidence. Let’s move away from our quotes stated above for a moment. Going back to Richtofen being alive as a necessity to achieve their goals, why is it just him? More importantly, if he is the main person that needs to be kept alive and trusted, why does he bother to get insurance for everyone on the team? Honestly, I have no idea and I don’t want to point directions until we know more. Back to the quotes above. “Where we end up”. This phrase is the real question, not what the “insurance policy” is. This single phrase is proof that Richtofen is aware or knows a few things: -They failed (They never reached their goal, they died) -The PLAN failed (The plan was useless, it changed nothing) -They did not make it to a specific place (They meant to land at A but instead got stranded at C) -They were too late (Damage is irreversible; they are in a position where they cannot continue) All these scenarios would merit Richtofen to create this “insurance policy”. But the bigger questions should be “If we went through such lengths for an insurance policy, what could our future hold?” After all, the bigger the gun, the bigger the threat it is meant to kill. So what is that scope of which traversing another universe could be necessary to insure that there was a way to have a plan B? Again, I have no answer as I feel we need more exposition. Lastly, let us actually look at the meaning of an insurance policy. An insurance policy, by strictest definition, is when an insurer is paid by someone to cover a problem in case of an emergency. Example: you pay a premium to ensure that your car’s damages will be paid for by the insurer. But that’s a monetary ideal. Let’s talk from a…different view. Richtofen did an ACTION, before an emergency or disaster, that ENSURED a SPECIFIC OUTCOME if things go WRONG. Furthermore, this was a SPECIFIC ACTION. It is meant to counteract a SPECIFIC SITUATION or SITUATIONS that may arise. When we break it down like that, there is a bit more that we can glean a bit more info about this ‘insurance policy’. -He knows of other outcomes and that his plan may have flaws. -He somehow has knowledge of an action in another dimension or place that may influence what they do in the future. -Whatever this insurance policy is, it was not only worth it to get it but it is also powerful enough to fix if they fail to “bring order to the universe”. This isn’t just some little thing about the blood vials. They did something to get those vials and those actions have consequences too. But until we know more, we can only assume. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thank you for reading. Please leave feedback in the comments! I’d like to hear more theories and some that challenge what I’ve stated; that’s how we get to a good theory.
  5. Back when I first started zombies, I really didnt know about EEs until I read up on the story. Then Call of the Dead happened, with the probably one of the most notable EEs, since it was the first to have an achievement. At that point, I started just waiting for guides, watching updates from channels; I didn't participate much. Fast forward to BO2, I started to hunt a little. Never found anything, but it was fun nonetheless. Even then, I still waited for guides to come out. Now Advanced Warfare. That's when I started hunting EEs unintentionally. On carrier, I like to think that I was ahead of everyone else when I figured out the drunk maze part and the island part. I contacted a youtuber who stole the info and posted it himself. Not salty or anything, but that kind of turned me off from looking for EEs. It was my first time and I was so hyped and everyone was stuck at that part. Really wanted to make a mark saying "Hey I got a step!". But whatever. I will say that i figured out the electric part during the Descent EE as well as how to get the gold trophy, but I wasn't like first or anything. BO3. Shadows, did not try at all. DE, I did almost complete the fire bow but got stuck on the part after hitting the clocktower again. someone posted the step and that was kinda a let down. ZnS I really didnt get a chance to try because it was solved so quickly. But I did get that on my first try with a team of randoms! I would like to go hunting for EEs more but I really just enjoy maps when they come out. I enjoy spending the first day to myself and soloing, but thats prime time for EE hunting.
  6. AlphaOmega

    Thought on a quote from Richtofen

    The first one beats me. That seems like a really far off quote. The second probably refers to the Wunderwaffe DG2.
  7. AlphaOmega

    Debate Thread: Who is M?

    I think there isn't enough info here to make a full case or theory. Yes, we could hypothesize about it for days without end but I feel like that will only tangle up the web. As I see it, for now, there is some other force at work here. It isn't Maxis, The Shadow Man, or even Monty. Honestly, we should look at one important thought: How do we know 'M' is someone who begins with the letter M? Whose to say that 'M' is just a placeholder for a different name? Just food for thought. Something that i've been wondering since SoE that no one has ever clued in on is one of the Shadowman's Quotes: "Your dimension will be absorbed just as mine was". This was a cut quote, or at least, I haven't heard the shadow man say it. Its interesting when looking at who the shadow man could really be.
  8. AlphaOmega

    Dlc 2: Just an island?

    So as dlc 1 finally reaches its end, its time to start promoting dlc 2. Many people seem to be under the impression that the next map is an island. I will not post any potential spoilers as to the reason why it may be, but just look up blops 3 dlc 2 zombies and most youtubers will give you a detailed explanation of this POSSIBLE next map. what i would like to address is that this is WAY too simple. I mean, just "some island"? Cmon, i feel treyarch can try a little harder...unless perhaps... the island was FLOATING. (DUH Duh DUH!) no but seriously, why not? We've seen that element 115 can in fact be used to nullify gravity in an area. I even remember somewhere that the moon is held up by element 115. So why not an entire island? the purpose would be two-fold: it would have been the ultimate hiding place for experimentation. On top, we know that we could get there via teleporter OR super charged wunderspheres. Remember that richtofen said thay accidents had caused people to land in some far places. Perhaps one could be used to reach this floating island? it would also ensure a more "ancient" vibe. Obviously, technology on a flying island stops a bit. Perhaps the warrior race of the Keepers disappeared BECAUSE THE ISLAND LITERALLY LEFT THE EARTH. This would make for a great EE. I could also see the reason why group 935 has allies there. If a floating island was weaponized...wwii would have ended much differently. Its all just thoughts i had. I mean, underwater is cool...but why not make the ee trying to sink the island from the sky? Thatd be even cooler.
  9. AlphaOmega

    Der Eisendrache: EE Song "Dead Again" Analysis

    The beginning part did make me think of that king. But i feel it doesnt match the rest of the song
  10. Hello everyone! Welcome to another EE song analysis! I have been wanting to dissect this song for some time because of the sheer oddity of it. It isn't uncommon from rock songs to do away with classic ABAB or AABB patterns, but this song sounded...off. I then decided that perhaps the lyrics don't flow that much because they have a message in them So without further ado, let's break this down! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A wolf is at my door, I feel it I see it in my dreams A world of my design A forced enlightening reveals it I found a life that I malign and I feel it ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ These first few lyrics are very descriptive. "A wolf is at my door" implies that something is hunting someone and that they are near. However, the odd part is that they "feel it". So this could entirely be their own mind AKA they are just imagining it. This person "Sees it in my dreams". The first person I think of is Takeo, who constantly talks about vivid dreams and prophecies. Again, on the 4th line "A forced enlightening reveals it" seems like something Takeo would say. However, both these lines, as well as the third and 5th, better fit Richtofen. He is the one of the 4 who seems to have the "whole picture". He can see the possibilities, especially when he knows that the Demspey test subject will "wreak havoc across the universe'. The last line is very interesting. 'Malign' can refer to 2 things: an evil presence or force OR speaking of someone is a really horrible manner IE "Don't malign her for her father's actions". Sure, the first definition is good, but it doesn't fit: I found a life that I "evil presence". Rather, "I found a life that I "criticize or hate". When taken in this context, it can mean a world of things; Richtofen's hatred of his future actions, Takeo's hatred of Richtofen's future actions. However, the ending is what makes all this uncertain. 'I feel it'. There is that phrase again. Once again, whoever is feeling this is just a hunch, nothing more. However, between Richtofen and Takeo, Takeo receives more cryptic messages. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I feel so strange; Like I'm everywhere and that no one was there We only want to live forever Repeat serial suicide and you can't find and you can't hide ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Another "I feel" line. Here we once again see the whole "Omni-presence" theme; "Like i'm everywhere and that no one was there". Once again, Richtofen fits this, being able to tap into other realities somewhat and see small parts of the future, due to his time travel exposure. The next line, however, is completely contradictory what the aim of Takeo, dempsey, Nikolai, or Richtofen. "We only want to live forever" sounds almost like it may be a completely different person or thought. The origins crew is on a mission to kill themselves and get their souls; completely contradictory to wanting to live forever. The next line even flip flops more with "repeat serial suicide". We know that technically, killing one's self from another universe is still suicide, as Dempsey says "Richtofen, why did you kill youself?" He could have said "Why did you kill that Richtofen" or any number of things, but he says "Why did you kill yourself?". There is definitely a piece missing here. I honestly don't know what to make of the last line here. It does fit back to the beginning about "a wolf at my door". This person cannot be found and cannot hide....okay nevermind I have no idea. However, this is one of the odd phrases throughout the song. Thoughts? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Am I dead? Is it all over? There is no pain here; my tree of life is hollow The tide has turned into rain. Beneath a waning light I see it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ An interesting question throughout this entire story is "Who is REALLY dead?" "who needs to die?" From Richtofen's note that can be pieced together in SoE (or was it giant?) it shows that all versions of the heroes must die. This is to end all possible timelines everywhere. In all honesty, this seems to be more foreshadowing of the future. Can they really kill themselves enough to finally end their journey? "There is no pain here; my tree of life is hollow". I wonder if it has something to do with the idea of multiple universes that these versions of the 4 from origins feel no pain when they kill themselves from another universe. The part about the tree of life seems interesting because it may refer to the forest we see in the loading screen. Very much when you see your character there, as well as in the Nikolai trailer, there seems to be a very somber mood, almost as if they feel hopeless and that their life is no longer theirs. The tide turning into rain seems to imply that a great change has turned into nothing more than a drizzle. Maybe Richtofen's grand plan to change the future will fail? It also talks about a failing 'waning' light. By definition, this means that something is slowly fading. Could it be Richtofen's resolve to fix the future? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A creeping shadow spire will bleed into the sky Carotid tightening conceals this mortality These moments freeze and fall away from duality ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The shadow spire reminds me of SoE when you look into the distance from the docks area, you can see the openings in the sky. The sky is particularly red. This part seems important foreshadowing for the future. The carotid arteries are blood vessels that carry blood to the brain. This line seems to be a bit more poetic. It talks about the mortality of a person, bound only by blood and flesh. Then, in a moment, all of it is over and the body that holds blood and keeps mortality fall away. This sounds very much like a sacrifice or killing. In SoE, to sacrifice a person, they are literally cut by the blades of the summoning key and their life force, their soul, their 'mortality' is taken. Again, this happens with Dempsey at the end of the Der Eisendrache story EE. (Bonus points for literally 'Moments FREEZE'...cuz dempsey is frozen...) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I hear my name In a voice like mine, that I hear in my mind The time has come to leave for never I peel the fabric back and see me hide I can't hide from I and hide from me ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Someone hear's their name. However, it sounds like schizophrenia or dementia, as characterized by voices sounding like their own. Sounds much like Richtofen. However, we do see, from time to time, that the characters talk to themselves in-game. This is typically when their voice sounds more hollow, or they are surrounded by multiple characters but have their own thoughts. It is an interesting feature that I hope will be used to relay some of the secrets of these versions of the Original 4. 'The time has come to leave for never'. A very ominous tone, seemingly an indication that this may be the final chance for something to be completed or done. The next line about "peeling the fabric back" typically refers to "exposing the truth". However, the truth of this person is that they are hiding. And in the next line, it seems it gets even more schizophrenic: "I can't hide from I and hide from me". This could mean that this person cannot hide from themself and hide from the other person in them. This sounds very much like in psychology where there is the Id, Ego, and Superego. The id is the vasic desires of a person. The Superego is the ultimate righteousness that a person knows; their extremely moral side. And the ego is the mediator; the part of the self that regulates the id and superego. In this, the "i" is struggling with the "me". The "Superego" is struggling with the "id". The right path vs the wanted path. And in the end, the self hides from the truth that it must inevitably face. Very tricky passage. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Am I dead? Is it all over? Where is my pain now? In my head it draws me closer; will it know my name? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Once again the question of death, the absense of pain (my tree of life is hollow...). The important part here talks about a "thing" in the mind of this person. And the person wonders of this "thing" knows who they are. The person seems to fear judgement, not wanting to face their retribution for their actions. The phrase "a name is everything" seems important here. It doesn't say "will it know what i've done?" rather, will it know my name. This could mean that this person, merely by name, is one that must be infamous in one way or another. Who they are is physically attributed to this name. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I feel it again and again I feel it I feel it when it's closing my eyes I feel it I see it again and again in my mind I see it when I look at the sky and I am Alive again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A lot of sense are used here. This person seems to be feeling as if they are being watched or that a familiar feeling is happening again and again. However, they are also seeing something in their mind over and over again. And the final culmination of this is looking into the sky and they are born again. Not much I can really say about this section. Thoughts? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm alive; I feel the pain now I'm really here I'm alive now (x4) Now I die again, Yeah Are we dead? is it all over again? Yeah Where is the pain now ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The person here seems to become apparent to the fact that they are in fact alive. And once again, it brings up the question of death. Throughout this song, this fact has jumped back and forth. At one point, the person believes they are dead, but instantly, they are alive. Could it be that our characters are stuck in a sort of limbo, fully able to be alive but unable to die. The supporting factor of this may be that why did Richtofen not just kill those around him instead of hunting down Dempsey from another universe? Perhaps he need's their help for something else? Of course, that's just going off the theory of a limbo. However, this song seems to strongly emphasize a confusion between death and life. Perhaps the bigger questions throughout all of this song and story in general is "what does it mean to be alive" and "what does it mean to TRULY die?". ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You lead and we'll follow Our tree of life is hollow The tide has turned into rain Are we dead? Did we cross over? What is our name now? Are we dead now? Are we dead now? Are we dead again? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Probably the most clue-type of phrases. Here for almost the first time, we get a collective thought. "we will follow". "Our tree of life is hollow". I feel that this is VERY important, as the entire song is focused on a single person and now, it seems that "we" have become a collective following. Could this be the other characters submitting to Richtofen's plan? Again, the "tree of life is hollow" is not preceeded by "My". It is now "our". Again, the idea of a tide, a change, has become rain. Honestly, if nothing else, this final section of lyrics are important in that it goes from "I/me" to "We". However, it is interesting to talk about the "did we cross over?" part. Again, we get a feeling that this group, these people are unable to fall into the category of death or life. So much so, they feel they are losing who they are. Interestingly enough, one of the side affects of Element 115 is memory loss. Could it be that these people have even forgotten their name due to heavy exposure? Or is this more of a psychological question "who am I really"? Or rather, "who are we really"? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thank you for reading! I know this was very long and has a lot of text, but I hope to see some responses and theories. I really believe that these songs contain key pieces of information that help explain the storyline, albeit it can be difficult to decipher. (PS this took a week to write)
  11. In all honesty, I think you are jumping the gun on this. Or, at least, how you went about doing this. I understand that it is very cool to discover an EE, but its best to just follow it and keep hunting before posting something. For instance, GlitchingQueen, when she discovered the Dancing Arnies, posted the final product of the mini EE rather than say "I FOUND SOMETHING OMG LOOK LOOK LOOK!" This was very smart because we saw the final product of her work and received immediate proof of it. Again, when PtG found the gold spork, they posted proof first, though they did tease, then explained how to get it. Its just a lot more believeable. I commend you for coming this far to find an EE, but you've got to be smoother on your publicity.
  12. AlphaOmega

    Der Eisendrache: Recap

    Thanks @NaBrZHunter and @Tac! I will add these revisions when i get back from classes
  13. AlphaOmega

    Der Eisendrache: Recap

    Hello zombie slayers! With Der Eisendrache being released for well over 2 wees now, I think it is time to recap the events that have transpired in this new chapter. WARNING: Spoilers...obviously. Also, note that everything in this post will be based on quotes and the EE progression. THERE WILL BE NO SPECULATIONS IN THIS, Feel free to provide your own in the comments. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ After the events of the Giant, the Origins Crew consisting of Dempsey, Richtofen, Takeo, and Nikolai are able to steal a giant robot and are now attempting to capture Nazi soldiers, presumably group 935, who have the cryo frozen body of Dempsey from this universe/timeline. During the chase, Group 935 is able to defeat the robot and escape with the body. The 4 heroes then travel to a nearby 935 facility known as "Der Eisendrache". This is where we pick up as we start the game. In the background, the rocket ship containing "the test subject" aka Tank Dempsey from this universe, lifts off. The crew notes that this is an unfortunate turn of events, but nonetheless, Richtofen insists that they must recover the body. As the rounds proceed, the 3 soldiers continue to pressure Richtofen as to why this matters so much, in particular Dempsey who is wary of Richtofen's intentions. The Doctor brushes it aside as they make their way deeper into the castle. Suddenly, a voice comes over the PA. Enter Dr. Groph, a fellow scientist. He is relieved to discover that Richtofen is alive, though not knowing that the Richtofen from Origins has killed the Richtofen of this universe. They continue their exchange until the team feeds the dragons. This prompts Dr. Groph to question Richtofen's motives. Further discovery of the Pack a Punch machine will result in Dr. Groph declaring he will stop Richtofen, though he does not understand why he is in the company of his enemies. About the dragons: According to Richtofen, these were already in place when 935 arrived. They seemed to have a malicious or vengeful presence. Richtofen notes, upon picking up the bow, that he has seen this before and that it will aid in their endeavors to recover the test subject. As the heroes begin completing their quest lines for the Wrath of the Ancients, Richtofen begins to wonder if there is a way to use the teleporter to reverse time. Once you complete the wisp step and go back in time, you will get a cutscene in which Dr. Groph places a journal and other items into a safe. The team then picks up a canister filled with blue liquid as well as a fuse. Takeo puts a plant down in curiosity if it was grow as time goes on. Dr. Groph notes how the progress they are making here will greatly impact the tide of the war. Once the team teleports back, they must enter the code into the computer near the death ray after using the death ray with the fuse as a means to power the computer. Upon completion, they go to the safe to retrieve 2 tesla coils. Once they are put inside each of the death ray pillars, they must be powered. The computer to the left closest to the death ray begins a code game. Once complete, the team wunderspheres to the rocket station to power up a computer as well. Having done so, and escaping a near fiery death at the hands of a rocket test, the team returns to the death ray and pushes a secondary function button behind the main controls for the death ray. With the powered up coils, the death ray fires a beam into the heavens, perfectly destroying Dempsey's rocket as it was making its way to the moon. This causes his pod to crash land in the courtyard unharmed. As the team attempts to investigate, Nikolai attempts to open the case but is electrified. Dr. Groph explains on the PA that he has the only code and therefore the only way to open the pod. Stumped, the team must then find another way to open the case. However, not all hope is lost. Near Dempsey's case is a rod of some sorts. It appears to be the Golden Rod that Richtofen in the original universe had received from the actor group in the Siberian 935 facility. The team takes this key and uses it on a pedestal that has a similar design back where they recieved the Wrath of the Ancients. A keeper manifests, apparently in need of energy. Following the ghost, the team comes to a tablet in the wall with the symbol of the Black Sun. The ghost urges them to feed the tablet souls. Unfortunately, as time goes on, they are unable to continue feeding the ghost because a tablet piece has gone missing. With no idea as to where they can find it, they resort to going back in time in an attempt to locate the piece before it has become lost. It is apparently in a safe near the teleporter in the past, probably taken for further study. Upon returning to the present, they are able to finally feed the Keeper, putting him back at full power. This allows the Keeper to teleport to the moon, attacking Dr. Groph who can be heard screaming over the PA. This causes the 4 tiles on the floor of the pyramid room to charge and teleport the MPD device from the Moon to earth. The team then puts the canister back in place, completing the necessary amount of blue liquid (probably souls or element 115) to release the pyramid, revealing a Keeper. It turns out that this keeper has become corrupted and must be cleansed. The heroes recharge their Ragnarok DG-4s and attempt to recharge the tiles by using the secondary function of the DGs that release mass amounts of element 115. They succeed as everything goes white. The four heroes awaken in a room with a large Keeper and several skeletons begin to spawn. As they fight, the Keeper begins to weaken, eventually being defeated despite help from Group 935s robotic abominations. Once they return to the pyramid room, all the power released from the corrupted keeper transfers into the Summoning Key which has appeared in the console of the MPD. Taking it, Richtofen plays it in the console near the death ray machine, giving it enough energy to launch every rocket near the facility into the moon. Dr. Groph speaks one last time, warning Edward that this will not change the outcome of the war, that what he is doing will enevitably be futile. As the rockets hit the moon, Richtofen contemplates the dark future ahead, though he knows the path. However, with the moon destroyed, the relay that electrified Dempsey's pod is also destroyed, allowing the crew to open it. As they get near, Richtofen remarks how the test subject is still alive. Untrusting of him companions, Richtofen uses the summoning key to suspend them in the air. Dempsey once again iterates that he should never have trusted Richtofen. The doctor rebuttals that he should be trusted as he is the only one who knows of fix the universe and time. He says that if the subject lives, he will cause havoc across all the dimensions. He cannot be allowed to live. Dempsey then decides that he should be the one to kill himself. He unfreezes the cryo chamber, ending the life of the subject. Richtofen explains that the Summoning Key has the power to preserve souls but only recently after death. He places the key over the body, adding Dempsey's soul to the Summoning key, along with Richtofen's soul from this universe. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` I hope you enjoyed this block of letters. Please let me know if I missed any details and add your own!
  14. AlphaOmega

    Any fellow Master Prestiges?

    I would advise going straight to prestige. You get xp for every weapon lv so its best to use them towards something. I think theres like around 100k xp in weapons just by leveling them and doing optic sights challenges
  15. Hi everyone! Today I wanted to point out some interesting aspects about the Keepers that no one has really talked about. Starting off, let us look at the general Keepers that attacked you in SOE. These beings seem to have minimal power, simply attacking you with their bare hands. On top, their clothing does not seem to be as elaborate as my next point. If you remember from the end of SoE, a Keeper gives you the Summoning Key, only to be stolen by someone else. Notice that that Keeper looks not only different from the other Keepers, but also appears in Der Eisendrache as a corrupted final boss. Now, I am not saying that it is the same one, but what I am implying is that possibly this is not just a simple Keeper, but rather a more powerful creatures, just above a standard Keeper. We see this in the DE EE when we end up fighting a corrupted Keeper. I don't really have much else to go on, but it seems in these instances, the Keeper we meet is not just a regular foot soldier. If I had to guess, they may even be the REAL versions of the statues in the pyramid room. Thoughts? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I thought I'd combine this since it is on the same topic and not too big: What are some of the thoughts out there on the summoning key? The way I see it, it is a conduit that can be used to transfer souls. However, it seems to be far more valuable if the Keepers, an unknown race or force, are protecting it. So far we have seen it: 1. Bring about the end of a universe 2. suck up souls OR manifest them in another form 3. Corrupt Keepers 4. Steal Power 5. Disperse energy/use as a weapon (Shadow Man in his fight) 6. Create an invincible barrier 7. Be used as a method of paralyzation 8. A conduit for energy, enough to launch several missiles into the moon with enough impact to completely destroy it And thats probably just naming a few. What do you think?

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