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Wow, After 7 Years of making THIS thread, which was a new discovery in TRANZIT of an age old easter egg that pretty much went unconfirmed & unsolved since Der Riese, I think I can finally put to rest the appearence of the "J.D." initials and the word "DELGADO" that appears on the Chalkboard. I stumbled across this BO3 texture (which I think is from Origins Chronicals - i_p7_zm_ori_debris_paper_names_c A List of Treyarch Dev names John "DELGADO" https://www.artstation.com/jdelgado01

I'm enthousiast to say that I have found a theory to explain the big paradox that bridges the Giant and Tag der Toten, and simultaneously the Cycle and the Broken Cycle. Both outcomes of the Multiverse requires the other one to exist, but how can this paradox be explained? Big thanks to @Forest Fire with his interesting discussions and thoughts on this subject, which sparked the idea of this thread. Also, you need a bunch of Cristopher Nolan brains for this one, so good luck. A Paradoxal Prologue A discovery made by no one else than our @clueless himself was a paradox that emerges in the Giant, a paradox that is proof that the Cycle has been broken before. To understand this we have to look at Mob of the Dead, the map that is essential to breaking Monty's Cycle. As you may know had Primis to travel through Alcatraz between Zetsubou no Shima and Gorod Krovi, however at some point in the Cycle a trap was set up. Essentially, the souls of the mobsters were used to create a pocket dimension (Mob of the dead), eternally trapping Primis, disabling them to proceed in Monty's Cycle (Blood of the Dead). During the climax of Mob of the Dead, the souls of the prisoners are transported to the Golden Gate Bridge. But this time, the plane doesn't crash because Weasel meant to bring them here. So what happens to the plane? Well, if the Cycle Continues, the purgatory Hell dimension does a "soft reset" that returns everything back to its former spot, and the only ones with memories are the Warden and Weasel. Icarus never makes it far enough to reach the storms Eventually though, the Weasel does win, stopping the Alcatraz Cycle and causing Monty's Cycle to break as well via Blood of the Dead's ending, Alpha Omega and Tag der Toten. So Icarus, flying through the sky, eventually flies through the storms overhead. In Zetsubou no Shima we get a glimpse of what such storms can do; temporal displacement. Point of the story: Only in a Broken Cycle can Icarus leave Alcatraz. And, ladies and gentlemen, what do we encounter on the roof of the Der Riese Waffenfabrik during the Giant? Icarus, the indication and proof that the Cycle has been broken before. This is the Giant's Paradoxal Prologue to our story… Dempsey: "Hey other me, if you're hearing this, then it means something's gone FUBAR. We're going to Plan B. Stick to that kraut bastard like glue. We need to find out what the hell he has been doing, what he's going to do. We may be able to get a fix on your location if you can trigger one of the paradox visualizations. Good luck, we're all counting on you. Oh, wait, what ever you do, don't get too close to the radioactive beacon. Makes your hair fall out." The Nexus Point I've devoted an entire thread to this which I can recommend to read, but I will summarize it here. The main point is that the events in the intro cutscene of The Giant is a so-called 'nexus point', an event where various timelines converge. And there are two possible outcomes, hear me out. Primis Nikolai, Dempsey and Takeo arrive at der Riese and persuade Ultimis Richtofen to join them and awaken the test subjects. What's more, they tell him to not open the MTD because that would unleash a great evil. Here's the split: either Richtofen activated the teleporter, or he doesn't. In case he doesn't, they will awake the test subjects and some radioactive event will occur, leading to the 'Fallout House' radios: Maxis is talking about a battle won, a nuclear wasteland, the children disappearing and himself suffering from a radioactive disease. Possibility 2 is that Ultimis Richtofen does activate the MTD: Primis Richtofen steps out and Monty's Cycle will happen. He is send by House Maxis, who is following Monty's plan to fix the world ever since the "knock on the door". Ever since, the past is changed and Maxis perceives that the children return and his radioactive disease is reversed. As the original outcome of the universe was changed, his old experiences first became vague memories, and then vanished completely. But this is not restricted to Maxis: Also Primis Nikolai, Dempsey and Takeo who initially firmly wanted to keep Ultimis Richtofen alive and awaken the test subjects, now fall into confusion and follow Primis Richtofen who obeys Maxis' mantra: "the test subjects must never be awoken". Completely reversed to their initial plan. Maxis: "Reality itself is shifting. I find myself reflecting on memories I am not longer sure are my own. Beyond the window, I saw a wasteland stretching far as the eye could see. I saw scourge visited upon the Earth. I saw the children withered before my eyes. That was before... before he came. Samantha has been returned to me once more, as have you Edward... as have you." Of course, Possibility 2 is what we directly see in Black Ops 3. But Possibility 1, the outcome that got overwritten by Possibility 2, is what happened prior. It is the outcome that eventually led to a "battle won" but with a very pyrrhic victory: A world destroyed by radioactivity. The Beacon Remember the Dempsey radio I quoted earlier? These personal messages to Primis Nikolai, Dempsey and Takeo are recorded before Possibility 2 overwrote Possibility 1, so outside Monty's Cycle. Dempsey states that they may be able to get a fix on other Dempsey's location if he and his pals can trigger a paradox visualization, coming back on that later. If you thought things were complicated, brace yourself for the next part. Now in Tag der Toten, you can hear Richtofen saying the following: "I remember something Samantha told me a long time ago. She told me her "dad had a plan"." This plan of Maxis, obviously referred to by Sam's quote in the Origins outro cutscene which took place in the House before Possibility 2 overwrote Possibility 1 (as the Cycle didn't happen yet), may include whatever led to "winning the battle and destroying the world". This old plan of Maxis was before Monty instructed Maxis the events of Black Ops III. Anyway, immediately after Richtofen saying this in Tag, Nikolai exclaims "Look, the Lighthouse is lit!". This sounds very much like Maxis saying: "Look, the Beacon is lit" after completing the Giant's 'Paradoxal Prologue' easter egg. In Blood of the Dead it is made clear that a lighthouse is a way to communicate across the Aether. So are our actions in the Giant essential for what happens in Tag der Toten, and vice versa? Is this why Dempsey mentions that he needs to get a fix on the location of his other self via a beacon that is radioactive? Talking about radioactivity, is the beacon the reason of the radioactive world that was a consequence of Maxis' plan? The description of Tag's Easter Egg is to "Resolve the Paradox". It could function, in a certain way, as a means to complete the paradox, the very paradox we were introduced at in the Giant. Tag der Toten is the final piece of puzzle for the odd radioactive timeline that was caused by Possibility 1 even before the Black Ops III Cycle started. Perhaps the fire and lava appearing in Tag during this quest as a consequence of '115 evolving' may be caused by the nuclear fallout of Maxis' plan. So before the Giant happened, Tag der Toten was already going on. Or no, what is better to say, Tag der Toten already happened: Time is irrelevant in the Multiverse. The crashed Icarus at the Giant is proof that plane has left the Alcatraz Cycle and that the Monty Cycle was broken before. But if you think we are finished, there is something else left. The End There is one thing you may be wondering: If Tag already happened, how could there still be a Multiverse with Element 115 at all? Consider this: We activated the Beacon while playing the Giant, which already takes place in Possibility 2. So to break the Cycle, the Cycle must already have occured. And I think the location that Dempsey wants us to trigger is that of the Frozen Forest. Remember this sequence: "I am the last of us, but I will be joining you soon my friends. -cough, cough- death is near. I hope what we have done doesn't come back to bite this universe in the ass. Thank god we will all be gone, because if Monty ever found this place, we would be in a world of shit. Maybe now, with us all gone, the children will truly be safe. -D " This sounds very much like the ending of Tag der Toten. Nikolai, Dempsey, Takeo and Richtofen die in the Frozen Forest so the children will be safe in a new world, without Element 115 and Aether. This may be what happened at the end of Possibility 1: Maxis mentions that the world is destroyed (the 'old' Aether Multiverse is presumably absorbed in the radioactive Dark Aether) and the children are gone (they left to the new world, Maxis explicitly says they are gone and not neccesarily dead). The Element 115 that is 'evolving' at the end of Tag is already the process of it vanishing from existence, and the world is annihilated in a radioactive fire. Now the sentence "awaken the test subjects" even makes sense: It regards Victis in their cryogenic slumber cells in Alcatraz. Because Primis travelled to the Frozen Forest, Victis is woken up and Tag can actually happen! So could the outcome of Possibility 1 not only be Tag der Toten, but also the dissolution of the Aether Multiverse in general? And then, Monty knocked on the door of the destroyed House, eventually triggering Black Ops III to happen which backwards affected everything so the Aether Multiverse was contineously re-established anyway again? If you came this far, cheers on that. Hope to see you in the comments!

My Asylum Threads, the medals, donations, hell my UOTM Cyan Robe.. Its been almost 5 years. No explanation and truly I did not expect to feel this gut wrench as I logged back in. I am excited don't mistake that. I hope someone will make it right and redeem what name I had. I missed you all very much and I know I never was able to express that. So many great memories and I hope more to come. I know other people find themselves here just as I did to rest from whatever they maybe going through in their lives. To get away for a bit. Its a hell of tough world out here.. Thank you for allowing me a place by the fire again to rest a bit. UOTM "User of The Month" would nominated by someone, then voted those nominated would be voted on by the community. Things like this cultivated a friendly competition. It gave us a chance to be apart of something bigger. A Thread or Theory could only be add to The Asylum by an Admin. Usually if a Theory is added its only because it either became a fact or it was just that damn interesting. I am unaware of how its now... UOTM wasn't always the most active, but they did put some thought into a post. You could tell they sat down, researched, then created and theorized. At times I believed I learned more from Zombies than I did my history class... We all would be tested by the facts vs unknown respectfully. On rare occasion you would witness a Theory led to another and it was almost as if our community manifested certain things. We began to see our debates bring new life in game. To be among other great minds debating lore, deciphering messages, creating guides, creating new ways to play this game with our own events....etc. To be among other great minds to name a few: @MixMasterNut, @GRILL, @anonymous, @Electric Jesus, @Mysteryo, @Lenne, @Hells Warrrior, @Tac, @Spider @InfestLithium - before becoming an admin I remember having to take the Reigns of The Zombie Olympics, while you were on Vacation. The implementation of Liquid Divinium as a website currency was a clutch move. I still have The Call of Duty Zombies TCG cards and the instructions on how to play my man! I don't think anyone will every be able to get these cards. They are one of a Kind. @PINNAZ worked so hard and gave us one of the greatest Audio Archives. Sorry we could never get a decent match! @RichKiller This guy has been credited for solving a lot of the Ciphers. @MrRoflWaffles as a staff member.. who now is a go to for no nonsense guides and his incredible love for Call of Duty Zombies. Youtube: MrRoflWaffles There’s something poetic about the idea of lost recognition. Debating lore, deciphering messages, creating guides, creating new ways to play this game with our own events.. All the posts I created confirmed that maybe I truly did think I did something special here. Coming back to a place where you left a mark but feeling like a ghost.. I was apart of something bigger, only time will tell. A new dawn awaits and I look forward to a bright future.

ok look... i know this thread is super old but i just had one thing to say. i saw this thread when i was rather young back in 2014. about i was 12 at the time, and for some reason this thread just popped into my head and i remember this exact message. im not sure if you're still active on here but i just wanted to say thank you

Shadows of Evil introduced us to a new story element that may or may not be implemented into future maps. This element is the Use of Lovecraftian Lore in the form of the Apothicans. Strange Pods growing from the ground and unspeakable blasphemies invading morg city. However is this really the first time we have seen a reference to Lovecraft before? Let us take a look back in Black Ops 2 and World at War as well as take an example from H.P lovecrafts short story. The Colour out of Space. In this short story a meteor falls from the sky and lands in a small town near a farm. Scientists come to experiment on it and discover that the Meteor never cools down and when it does it usually takes a long time. Water around it produces steam and as time goes by it shrinks in size. When the meteor is broken it reveals that the inside resembles Glass and has the distinct characteristic of Colour. Eventually the meteorite vanishes and the people are left to their own devices. However the tale does not end there, hunters notice that the wildlife is changing in the area, they find a rabbit that is deformed and horrendous. Eventually the Crops grow in huge abundance but their taste is bitter and disgusting. Time goes by and animals whither and die. The people begin to go insane until they start to deteriorate and die off in gruesome ways. Eventually whatever was in the meteor begins to rise from the contaminated well and blasts off into space in an array of colors. However one Small piece falls back into the Well. The range of this infection seems to spread an Inch a year. I tell you this story because it has parallels to our own storyline. Shi No Numa takes place in Japan after a meteorite is discovered in the swamps. Of course, this meteorite causes the dead to reanimate but something new was just implemented a few years ago during Origins. In the Cutscene the Meteorite is shown to have landed prior to 1917. Now, this could just be the same event in another dimension but as seen in The Giant we know that Multiple Universes have very similar events occurring at the same exact time. So if we are to assume that the Meteor in Shi No Numa is the same meteor we see in origins then we can safely assume that 30 years later the meteor has still not cooled down. We can also see that the Origins meteor fits the description of the meteor from H.P Lovecraft’s story. When the surface is cracked the inside is like glass displaying Colour. 115 which is found in the Meteor has the same effect as the story. The people begin to whither away and die and animals suffer grim mutations. Zombies and Hellhounds. Hellhounds are shown to have been a product of the Der Riese incident however their first appearance was in Shi No Numa.. So what does this mean in our storyline? Did I just state something that has already mostly been said for years already? Well, here is where it gets interesting. There are some possible Origins for the meteorite in H.P Lovecrafts story. it could have been crafted by beings from another dimension and deliberately sent to earth. Evidence in the story comes from the fact that the radiation spreads one inch a year and how given enough time the entire planet would eventually be engulfed in a Plague which destroys the earth completely. The same can be said for the Zombies meteorite. It was because of this One event that eventually led to the Rift being broken during the events of Moon. It is possible that the Meteor was sent to earth during a critical time in history where it’s scientific properties would be used to create weapons and devices. It was World War II when the meteor landed in Origins timeline, however in the First timeline it could have landed during WWII. What do these 2 events have in common? They both landed during a time of great conflict, when scientists were racing to create a weapon to win the war. It is possible that these meteorites were sent to Multiple realities in hopes that one of these dimensions would eventually and foolishly break the Rift. Without 115 the Teleporters would not have been perfected. The moon pyramid would not have been discovered. Griffon Station would not have been built and the Missiles would have never been sent to earth. There is also something else that casts a shadow on the future. The meteorite surges with electricity. Objects that are teleported often surge with electricity shortly after being teleported. Hellhounds do this, The mainframes do this, and apparently do does our meteor…

THE LAST TIME I LOOKES UP “COD ZOMBIES EXPLAINED”, THERE WERE JUST THEORIES ABOUT METEORITE EXPERIMENTS GONE WRONG. WHAT ON GOD’S GREEN EARTH IS THIS? "Samantha and Eddy are left to walk into the light. Into the unknown. Into a new world." The new world we now know of as Black ops: Cold War, where Samantha is grown and begins working with Weaver to uncover the mystery behind the new zombie threat. The zombies story is so complex, but so amazing. It's mind blowing to see what zombies grew into from what it started off as in world at war, and it's a shame that this amazing story and story line for the game has come to an end. whatever I like this mood and zombie's. I want to share COD dedicated blog "Downsights" from here i got guidelines about all maps. Thanks

Wow I genuinely hadn't seen this before! Glad to realise it does mean something! Thankyou

Oranienburger Str. 285 13437 Berlin, Germany if you put that in google maps it'll take you to the place i'm talking about

I checked the google maps on your link and it sent me to Orienburger Str. 285.Also to back me up, if you look closely you can see the exact same water fountain as on Verrukt so my speculation leads me to that Orienburger Str. 285 is the wright place to look if you're trying to look for Verrukt

This is tied to another question I've been wondering about, which is when Origins actually start? Similarly to The Giant, it seems like the crew again forgets how they really got there. "You don't even remember, how long this has been going on, how long we have been trapped here" (Samantha to Richtofen in Origins) Similarly, in the beginning cutscene you see Richtofen looking at his hands. You may think this is because he is shocked he killed Maxis, but what if he is just confused at what happened previously and where is he now, in the same way the characters from The Giant seem to get confused? Food for thought.