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That's not true. Infinity Ward are working with Neversoft and Raven on Call of Duty Ghosts releasing this November. Sledgehammer are working on a separate game, which recent leads point to being a new Modern Warfare game. Really? Well guess I was wrong then. I haven't heard anything about this Sledgehammer game from any other of the forums I go on. I personally don't like at all and will not be buying whatever they're working on.

What bothers me is how he says this is a huge thing when really it's nothing and has no significance whatsoever most likely.

I really hope it won't be exclusive to next gen when it launches. I'm sure it will be but I can dream. I won't be getting an Xbox One about 2-3 years after it launches and I really don't want to miss out the new zombies, day one launch experience. It's going to be hard not looking up information about it though. On Topic : I think there may be a slight chance we could go back to Der Riese but it would be much more open and expanded. They did change up the Buried loading screen from how it should have been. I do think however the next map will most likely be set in Agartha or at least near Agartha. Or possibly a map with the O4 and them surviving in a much larger version of Area 51? Leaving us with answers about the N4 but ending BO2 also at a starting point which would give us answers about the O4 but then give us questions as to what they will be doing. Very slim chances for that happening too.

No they're doing the opposite of only what YOU want. Firing Range was a great map and all my friends agreed. Nuketown was obviously a huge fan favourite and still is. I find it boring after a match or two myself. No one said "No more Black Ops maps" in fact I see more people asking for a remake of Array for this last DLC. Hacker was never broken and the other glitches you listed rarely happened. On-Topic. I do think the N4 are dead either way. Richtofen can just leave Samuels body if he desires too and on the Maxis side of things he outright says they will die. You could look at Buried as the N4's burial ground (pun). I just love the banter between the O4 and they're characters so much more than the N4. No matter how much we learned about the N4 I just don't like them in the slightest. They're boring.

There is no evidence that the SP were not involved either though. We have no credit list for each map, and I am sure Treyarch could and would outsource maps to other departments. Even if the campaign team are involved in the making of the map or not, it will be the vision of the zombies team. They have their plan for how each map should be based on setting and story. Whether or not they are actually involved in the production of it, it is still their project. @Fated - As for Sledgehammer making the next CoD, I have heard this mentioned but have not seen any confirmation of this, so assumed it was still merely speculation. If this IS the case, then yeah, I suppose there is no excuse for them not working directly on the final map, unless they are working on a non-CoD related game of course. It's a combination of SledgeHammer and IW again for the next COD.

No you are not mistaken... definitely group 935 Awesome, I wasn't to sure myself but now it's shown this is great. Possible back to Der Riese? But larger? maybe that HELP door at the furnace will be open ;)

I may be mistaken but I see a faint G935 logo in that blueprint at the top right.

I'm having an issue where only after this update not a single game of mine will load. Not even games directly on the hard drive. I've tried everything and nothing has fixed it.

Not Ready to Die, Pareidolia, Coming Home, Abracadavre, 115, The One... Honestly the only song I don't like from zombies is the Jonhy Cash version of Rusty cage. I much prefer Sound Garden's version over it.

The N4 all represent the O4 in same way. Misty = Dempsey Marlton = Takeo Russman = Nikolai Stuhlinger = Richtofen Most, if not all, of Marlton's quotes are about hygiene. Many of Takeo's quotes were japanese proverbs. Russman has many quotes about being old and is generally the comic relief and has bad memory like Nikolai had many quotes about his vodka and couldn't remember all to well. Stuhlinger representing Richtofen should be very obvious Misty and Dempsey both are loud and break the 4th wall more than other characters.

I hope the O3 + RichtoSam will comeback and fix everything.

*too And they're did that to help out bad players. Of course though the people that don't need to use such a perma-perk still get it. I've never liked the idea of perma-perks and didn't like them when the game first came out. There's probably nothing that will change my outlook on them.

I understand that and believe that myself, this was mainly for those people that think a tectonic shift hadn't occurred at all.

I much prefer things the way they used to be with a little hint to the next song. Always got me more excited for what the next DLC song is gonna be. Now it's the last thing on my mind.

So I see many people saying there wasn't a tectonic shift from the rockets on Moon and many go on to say that there is no evidence supporting this. Well there actually is. It's an in-game quote from our favourite genius Marlton in Buried. It usually comes up once you first enter the town. The exact quote is " I suspect this place was a ghost town long before the tectonic shift". Now, this may just be Marlton assuming there was one but if he had the brains to be working at the Nuketown testing sight then I will believe. Plus this is treyarch putting a quote in from the smartest character in the N4 flat out saying that there was a tectonic shift. I hope this is enough evidence for you all. Also, for those who don't believe me that the quote is real. I have a clip saved in my theater on XBL with Marlton saying it. Just figured I would put this out there since I've seen many people argue that there wasn't a tectonic shift.

You need to add Tombstone, Who's Who, Electric Cherry, and Vulture Aid to that list. I don't like persistent perks at all. The Jugg and Tombstone persistent perks are quite overpowering as way2go stated and honestly the Green flashes of constantly earning and losing them is getting annoying. What I feel they should do is make new drops or at least add the Death Machine drop back in. Many of these perma perks could just be drops. The Deadshot persistent perk could be a drop that just multiply's bullet damage to the head by 1.5 for the normal limited time or make it so that headshots give an extra 50 points for that time.

Please remove that way on how to get Perma-Jugg faster and easier. It just ruins the game and makes it so easy. If people need to get 13 downs to be able to get past Round 15 easier ( which is already incredibly easy ) then so be it. I tried convincing a friend who started on Bo2 zombies to play BO1 zombies with me ( I've been playing since NDU was a secret bonus level in WaW )and the first thing he asked is " Is there perma-jugg"? When I said no he immediately disregarded the game and said it must be terrible. That may be just a personal experience but I feel this happens quite a lot.

You can actually get on that table :D

I couldn't agree more!

I think the only reason he went into Samuals body is purely so he could feel and touch and smell again as he is so happy to do so. That he may went to personally be there "in the flesh" if you will for when he's ruling the world and people are his play things.

With Weasel's personality I would assume he would want to end his own suffering. Obviously Richtofen would have sooner, if he had the power ( which he now does ). This entity in MotD is clearly satanic. I think the biggest thing supporting that is the number board. When you enter in 115 in the board on MotD you hear the entity say "Not this time" and then it switches to 666. Meaning it's not E115 and it's nothing related to it. It is purely the devil sending these people to their own little personal hell and he decided to have some fun with it.

Maybe they really are using this as a kind of "poll" to see which ending the final map should take on. Richtofen's or Maxis's. Maybe without fully knowing so we are deciding if the O3 + RichtoSam come back? I can see it continuing through Maxis's side but Richtofens side of things seems to be over. He has full control now. What more would he possibly need us to do?

I understand this map sits out of reality and time. I already had that idea when we got the first trailer for it. I also understand that according to the mobsters it's still 1930 for them but in real time they've been trapped their for decades most likely. All of this is apparent immediately and I don't think anyone here will disagree with that. But you want us to throw away every single thing we know about zombies all for one character? For one far fetched theory that sounds even more ridiculous than zombies themselves? I've already stated how I feel about MotD in of my first posts on this thread so I won't put it here. I just don't see why Al if he turned out to be that entity controlling in MotD would continue to torture himself. And what purpose would he have doing anything in the Aether anyways? He has no one he want's to enact revenge on. Not even a way entering the Aether.

Thank Richtofen someone remembered. Something about Marlton's lying tongue. I am so using that "Thank Richtofen" line. Made me laugh a lot more than it should have. And I honestly think he may be just referring that stuff like the Ray Gun was very iconic in Comics during the 50's. The whole retro/space/alien era is one of my favourite periods in American history

There is nothing to discuss. You're trying to say that Al is also the entity which is torturing himself. That's entirely ludicrous. This was in one of my earlier comments "So you say you're "in the loop" which would mean you have knowledge we don't about the zombie storyline. You then go off of that knowledge to create a theory that contradicts every single religious undertone in zombies. You also expect us to understand your theory made from knowledge that we apparently don't know." You want us to discuss pure nonsense. You're saying that somehow Al is the controller and even though in every map we've had very heavy religious undertones, specifically MotD, we should ignore that entirely and that Al is suppose to be this thing that's far more darker than Richtofen? A mobster/ conman from the 30's is darker than an insane german scientist that hears voices and wants to use the world as his plaything?