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Thank you Dearest Sailor! :)

Cheers mate! Nice to know that there are friendlies aboard this website. Thank you for the welcome.

G'day fellow zombie conspirators! My name is ExperienceThis. Tristan in real life (weird name i know). As you could probably tell from my greeting I am from the land down under, Australia. I have been prying through these forums for nearly two years now but I recently decided to make myself a new profile. I have been following Nazi Zombies since World at War was released. During my first game of zombies I was hooked. My best round has been on Kino Der Toten where I reached round 86. However recently I have gotten a little rusty at zombies. Just wanted to say "Hi" and try to get to know some of you other brilliant minds. Thanks! ~Experience

I'm on Your Dearest Sailor's side here. Tranzit and Die Rise both seemed rushed. As if they couldn't find a better idea and made them at the last minute. They pumped the community for Black Ops 2 zombies but in the end, didn't deliver like they promised. Buried is no exception. Don't get me wrong these maps are awesome ideas. Unfortunately they don't play as well as they look. ~Experience

I honestly am disappointed with the zombies overall this time around. All of the zombie maps made by the zombie devs are rubbish. Mob of the Dead has probably been one of my most favourite zombie experiences to date. To me it just feels like they have lost their mojo. I miss the old "creepy" feeling in the old maps. I played Ascension for the first time in a while and I was surprised at how much I was creeped out. All we can do is hope that the final map pack will compensate for these maps so far. ~Experience

The map Nacht Der Untoten is in Germany. Not in Japan. My proof is this. The description given to us when you select the map is this: "You drove them deep into the heart of the Reich. You thought they were dead. You were wrong." What is the "Reich" you ask? Well allow me to enlighten you. The term "reich" derives from the German word meaning realm, kingdom, or empire. Reich is usually used in German to designate a kingdom or an empire. Reich is one of the three major German empires that existed. These empires were as follows: the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation, which lasted from the coronation of Otto I as a Holy Roman Emperor in 962 to 1806, when it was dissolved during the Napoleonic Wars the German Empire, which lasted from the unification of Germany in 1871 to its collapse after World War I, during the German Revolution of 1918–1919 the National Socialist state commonly known as the Third Reich or Nazi Germany, which lasted from the Machtergreifung in 1933 to the End of World War II in Europe in 1945 (Taken from Wikipedia) Now Nacht Der Untoten is located deep in the German reich or empire. Therefore it is in Germany! ~Experience

Perhaps his behaviour is the same as the three headed dog from Mob of the Dead?

Very good breakdown. Hopefully we get more information about this new giant fellow.

Unless Xbox cleans up their act with the whole "always online" thing then I am immediately switching to PC. Seriously, who in their right mind would put that in there, not to mention the fact you need a specific amount of upload and download and ping to be able to connect. I'm also not happy about the games policy. Microsoft are turning into an even greater money-hungry company.

Okay so we know that Moon takes place in the 1960's and as we play Nuketown Zombies we hear the Easter Egg taking place. After a while we see the zombies eyes turn blue. Showing us Richtofen has taken over. And after our eventual demise we see the rocket fall to Earth. These clues suggest that Nuketown Zombies takes place at the exact same time. Now we hear Marlton's in the bunker and the Tranzit bus horn sound. This proves that Green Run takes place shortly after Nuketown Zombies. This can also be proved by the mass amounts of smoke, dust and fire that we see during Green Run. The Great Leap Forward however, I'm stumped at trying to find the date it takes place. Perhaps we have taken a "Great Leap Forward" into the modern time or even the 2020's. Now to explain the entire "Call of the Dead is without fire and lava". Time travel is an extremely messy business. Okay, so we travel in time to Call of the Dead to retrieve the golden rod. Why isn't Call of the Dead decimated like our Black Ops 2 maps? Simple. We have not yet retrieved the components to launch the rockets therefore the launch has not yet occurred.

Can someone tell me how long we should be waiting in order to have our post or thread approved?

Do not be so quick to come to a conclusion. Nuketown Zombies takes place DURING the events of Moon. Tranzit most likely takes place shortly afterward due to the mass amount of dust, fire, smoke and lava desecrating the Earth's surface. But we have yet to find a specific date to our time and date at the Great Leap Forward. Judging by the name itself it suggests we "leap" forward. But into what? I suggest time is that which we "leap" forward into. So perhaps the zombie out break on Die Rise occurs years into the future from Tranzit. Therefore the zombie outbreak could have increased without the aid of 115 filled rockets.

That is a question which is up in the air. Honestly, nobody knows how 115 originally spreads. The rockets would not contain 115 in them whatsoever. The only leading evidence to this is Maxis' cause. Since he launched the rockets to impact Earth in various hotspots, he is trying to lessen the damage that Richtofen will do, not increase it. That being said I do find it particularly suspicious that Maxis laughed as he launched the rockets toward Earth.

The laugh is put there for glitchers and modders. If you leave theconfines of the map you hear the laugh. In Black Ops 2 on Die Rise this happens a lot and eventually you die. I'm pretty sure this is on every map as it has occurred to me on Moon after I was pulled through a wall by the astronaut.

Time Travel is a messy mistress, let me try to explain this the best I can. When we go to CotD, we have yet to launch the missiles from the moon, we don't even have the focusing stone and we just acquired the rod. So even thought CotD is in 2011 and Moon supposedly happens on those dates, CotD is still solid because Ric isn't in the MPD in that future, Sam is. By altering the past we affect the future. If we went back to CotD now that the missiles have launched will it be different? More than likely. But since the future that involved the missiles hadn't happened when we first went to CotD it was still fine, if moon took place in the past. Its a paradox affect, a time line split if you will. We have the time line in which CotD happens and it is fine, and then the new time line where the missiles are launched and we have the Tranzit story arc. Ahhhh I see your point. However this still doesn't explain the fact that Moon takes place during Nuketown Zombies and we hear Marlton and the TranZit bus horn. And also there is a lot of dust (fog) hanging around on TranZit. Most likely dust from the rockets which recently hit. Perhaps Moon does take place during Nuketown Zombies. I've been bouncing this theory around a lot.

I'd just like to reboot this post with something I figured out. Okay so following this theory we see that the COTD crew are in the Comic Book Story. However the O4 and the N4 are also in this Comic Book Story. Okay so most of us have completed the moon Easter egg and saw those three missiles hit Earth completely obliterating its surface. There are many theory's that the Moon Easter egg took place between 1950 and 1980. But the new Tranzit map as well as Die Rise are said to take place in 2025 or somewhere near that year. However the map Call of the Dead takes place in 2011. But the map isn't destroyed? If Moon took place between 1950 or 1980 and we launched the missiles that blew up the Earth then Call of the Dead would have never took place. So then why did we play Call of the Dead without having fog or lava everywhere? Well I have two theories about this. Okay so we have these two storylines right? The first being the Comic Book Story the next being the Real Life Story. In your theory you say the COTD crew are in the Comic Book Story. But if this was true then why wasn't the map obliterated? I'm thinking that COTD takes place in the Real Life Story. Why? Because we play as four, real life actors. The O4 'ripped space time back tracing them to the future' or rather, the future that happens in the Real Life Story. My next theory still involves these two storylines. However in this theory I am going to play around with the actual known zombie storyline. What if Moon takes place after 2011? It would make sense as when while we try to survive Nuketown Zombies we hear and even see the Moon easter egg take place. Even when we die on Nuketown Zombies we see the missile crash into Earth. Now here's the confusing part. In this map we hear the Tranzit bus horn and also Marlton speaking. This proves that Moon, Nuketown, and Tranzit all occur at roughly the same time period. So perhaps we teleport from Shangri La to No Mans Land and from there teleport into the future on Moon. The second theory is quite confusing and I apologise (I only just thought it up). Please reply with what you think about this. Experience out!

The zombies are being controlled by Samantha, who is exclusively sending them after Richtofen. The history of the COD Zombie's version of Shangri-La is still up to debate IMO - but this is how I sum it up: - Shangri-La is connected to the hollow earth theory, and the civilization of the Vrill-ya. It is located in Central West Asia. - the Vrill-ya and the people of Shangri-La lived alongside each other. The villagers mined unradiated 115 for the Vrill-Ya, and the Vrill-Ya in turn gave the villagers enlightenment, along with positive attributes associated with unradiated 115. - Once all the 115 was mined, the site was to be completely moved. The Vrill-Ya used their technology to make the Shangri-La temple and surrounding area somewhat of a flying Vimana, it was always meant to travel through time & space. - Richtofen & Maxis completed the first truly working teleporter (and by truly working, I mean - it could teleport someone farther then behind the next wall). Richtofen was the test subject, and he was teleported from Der Riese all the way to the cavern under what would be Griffen station on the moon (there was oxygen somehow stored in the cavern). - This is the same cavern that housed the MPD, and upon touching the pyramid - Richtofen would never be the same. It bestowed another presence into his brain, an alien, demonic presence. This presence knew exactly where it needed to go, and what it needed to do. - Possessed Richtofen (as he is from now) then was able to use the MPD to transport himself to Shangri-La, and this is where my own interpretation starts to really kick in. The entity inside of Richtofen is basically related to the Vrill-Ya somehow. Whether it was an exiled member of their community, or just perhaps just an alien with a common lineage - EITHER WAY, it wants revenge. It visited Shangri-La to essentially tell all the other Vrill-Ya that they are doomed, and he'll be coming back with an army. - Several days later, Richtofen strolls back into Der Riese as if nothing happened. From here, there is no radio catalogued evidence that Richtofen returned to Shangri-La - but for the sake of this theory, he did return with 115 weapons and completely eradicated the Vrill-Ya. He then enslaved the villager workforce, and upon forcing them to keep mining 115 - he also had them radiate it (which in turn is what led to them all dying out). Unradiated 115 = potential positive properties, radiated 115 = more powerful but cancerous. *this is when my theory happens* So, the zombies aren't there until the 04 was there. Which would make Shangri-La perfectly explorable until the O4 were teleported there, and Sam started re-animating the corpses. Hmmm. You make a strong argument but I'm still not entirely convinced that Shangri La was moved to Nevada. I believe it is located in the Himalayas. Maybe the O4 found an abandoned MDT and used it to teleport to the Nevada base in NML. I assume Richthofen knew about the MDT at Groome Lake and knew it would take him to the Moon. Good work anyway on this thread. You brought up some interesting ideas. :D

Thanks EJ. We should have a Skype brainstorming session tomorrow. We're missing something here. I can feel it. Do you think maybe Al has voices in his head and they tell him what to write and draw in his comic book? Perhaps whatever he writes and draws becomes that persons fate. That's probably why he drew an escape plan and in the comic book and in the game we are able to get off the island. But whoever controls the zombies (most likely Lucifer) doesn't want the mobsters to escape and let Weasel live. If Weasel lives, then he has the ability to do whatever he wants with the world. He would be able to shape history just by creating a drawing in this comic book. Lucifer wants the cycle to continue and end up with the death of the Weasel so he strikes the plane down and they land in the bridge. After they land on the bridge the mobsters still end up being sentenced to death.

Although this is a very good theory there are many problems holding this theory down. For one. How could an entire mountain range, jungle and constant water source be simply "moved" from one location to another. It's just not possible. Yes I understand that the storyline is full of rule breaking of physics but you simply can not move an entire mountain range without there being problems. And yes I say mountain range because its not just one mountain. It's many. Secondly the river/reservoir . How is it still flowing after it has been moved away from its original water source. And then there is our trapped friends Brock and Gary. The radio logs state that they have traversed miles through dense jungle to reach the temple. How could the jungle around Shangri La be moved. It's hundreds if not thousands of square miles big. My last argument is that of the zombies themselves. How would they move the entire mountain range, jungle, river, and temple without being attacked by the zombies that inhabit the dark tunnels in Shangri La. This theory seems very far fetched as there are just to many problems with it. Don't get me wrong it's a great idea. It's just impossible.

Maybe there are alternate realities? For example one reality is the Comic Book Story while there is an other reality. This being the Real Life Story. I'm guessing the COTD crew as well as the Five crew (being real humans) are in the Comic Book Story but their real beings are trapped in the Real Life Story.That's why they are in the Comic Book Story. But that still doesn't explain why The Weasel had access to postcards and movie advertisements from nearly 80 years in the future.

If the N4 are part of the Comic Book Story then how do you explain the photos in the loading screens?

Holy crap this is an awesome theory. I never thought of it this way. But how do you explain the photos in the loading screens for Tranzit and the Tranzit maps? Aren't the N4 part of the Comic Book Story?