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I really hate the two people dolphin dive into a corner and getting more power ups hoax. Waste of time.

I actually believed some of these hoaxes when I first got zombies. Now I feel so gullible.

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Exactly. I like the idea though, it gives us something to research and theorize with.

I'm curious on why this was never really mentioned in earlier maps.

Oh sweet, thanks man!

I'm really curious, and is there a certain place that you can find them?

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Oh no, I'm not saying they weren't bad characters, they did bore me in Tranzit, but they got better developed in Die Rise and Buried. I don't mind them, but the amount of people who are almost revolting that the O4 need to be back are being noticed by Treyarch. I personally found them to be really crappy characters (besides my girl Misty), they were all under developed, boring, annoying to listen too and had no substance, they were just, bleh, bland and lifeless, Zombies hasen't been the same for me since the O4 were replaced by the N4/T4 (Not that I didn't like Tranzit, Die Rise and Buried, I do, but I DESPISE THE N4) I hate pretty much everything about the N4, so I am a happy camper with Origins. Marlton just can't shut up sometimes, it gets annoying. But I liked Stu, he had the best quotes I believe. "There's no I in team, but an I in PIECE OF SHIT!" "Scratch my back, and I'll fucking snap yours!" Those lines cracked me up the moment I first heard them. Russman, eh he can be just boring but he's interesting. I think he was a much more sophisticated being before he was fired from Broken Arrow, and I'm curious to what he did there.

But that's where our opinion differs. I actually really liked the N4. They brought something fresh the O4 could not provide. Were they replacing the O4? Defiantly not. It just that this portion of the story was told through their eyes. I don't think it was a mistake to tell the story through a set of different eyes. A different perspective, a fresh view on things, and a chance to provide fresh side-stories that had nothing to do with Group 935 or the Vril-Ya. It was well needed to have a set of new characters to co-exist along with the O4, as they were getting repetitive and stale. Could the N4 have been better? Yes, and so could the maps to reflect them (Die Rise could've been made Broken Arrow's HQ, much needed backstory on Russ and Stuh would've been given, but nope). But they weren't as bad as most people made them out to be. Oh no, I'm not saying they weren't bad characters, they did bore me in Tranzit, but they got better developed in Die Rise and Buried. I don't mind them, but the amount of people who are almost revolting that the O4 need to be back are being noticed by Treyarch.

Exactly why I said Treyarch made a mistake, or it's too soon to replace our favorite heroes.

Honestly, we NEED an intro. Because if this is the last of this story line, a lot of questions need to be answered. We need closure, not an ending like Lost.

I understood that they wanted to create a new atmosphere with different characters, but it just didn't work.

I most likely will thank you!

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This has been discussed to death, it would be more like Der Riese and Verruckt were Richtofen, but even that Tank wouldn't even be any of the maps rather than No man's land since that's the only map that takes place in America in Black Ops. It was an interesting theory when Die Rise came out, but when Alcatraz and Buried came out, this theory is down in the dump. Sorry to say that.

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With the N4, they seem to be done for. We see their demise with Richtofen and Maxis destroys the Earth and it's people. Now to me, it's pretty anti-climatic since we don't really experience this that much, it's more being said than anything. My point is that, Treyarch knew we didn't like these characters, and they killed them off so they can bring back the O4. I personally believe the O4 could have easily telaported back to Area 51, and helped either Maxis or Richtofen instead of the N4. Wouldn't it be awesome if Samantha just started cursing out Takeo, Dempsy and Nikolai if we chose Richtofen for the Easter Eggs? Also, I read a post last night about how Tank and Misty are related, and it blew my mind. Maybe Treyarch didn't make a mistake, but at the same time, they're similarities because it's the same writers, and it could easily just be their writing skills that just make it coincidental, all writers have a style and it doesn't really change much too often. In the end, I just feel Treyarch knew we want the O4 back, and we will love any map that they're on. If Tranzit, Buried, and Die Rise had the O4, would you hate it as much? Most likely not, Tranzit wouldn't be such a bore if we had to listen to the same quotes by the N4 that weren't all that exciting. Tank always makes me laugh, same with Nikolai, so I would have some sort of fun playing Tranzit.

This deserves a bump, and a special place on the general zombies discussion!!

Haha, don't worry. I don't think that many people know it does anyways. This is why I completely believe this will be end of Zombies. We get to choose our ending. We choose what happens. They can't possibly continue from BO2 storyline since they gave us 4 different endings (unless they pull a Mass Effect). It's the same with zombies and the 2 endings they give us in Buried and possibly Origins. New storyline.

Why does no one understand that both endings would be canon. In the campaign we have 4 different endings with all of them being canon. For zombies we get the ending that WE choose. It's that way with Buried and if we get an EE like MotD's for Origins then it will be this way for Origins as well. Exactly, I don't understand why Treyarch would only make one side canon when we are choosing which side to go on. We get to choose because there will be different outcomes and both will be canon. Because I'm sure if Richtofen wasn't canon, they wouldn't have said to keep to one side when doing the Easter eggs.

Testing super soldiers by using 115. How else are they creating super soldiers?

Now I'm excited for this, I'm so happy that the O4 are back in action and ready to kill again. But I have issues with it being a prequel. Now they keep saying every story has a beginning, and an end. And I'm confused to how this even ends when it's happening before everything started. I have a discussion with someone about the story and how will it fit to the next map, and things just weren't adding up. Here are my issues. 1. Who's in control? My friend thinks it will be Samantha, but I kept saying Samantha wasn't even born yet. And they weren't even testing 115 until WW2. Which brings up-- 2. How are they're zombies? In all the radios, not a single one mentioned this event. The outbreak started in Der Reise and spread across. But that wasn't till the 1940's. it's the same with Mob, but I'm sure that's hell, and it's a cycle going on, and there's no zombie outbreak going on outside that cycle. 3. The O4 first meeting up. Tank is the major issue here, especially with Richtofen. In the radios, Richtofen captured Takeo, Nikolai, and an unknown Mexican to create a super soldier. But Tank only showed up when he went into Shi Ni Numa to find Peter McCain. He was captured and was tested on. There's more and I would probably edit this later on, it's really late but I wanted to raise my most concerns. My friend said that it could be time traveling, and Richtofen is actually Samantha in his body. But that's a stretch because how would they be able to do that without Richtofen's help? Maybe someone can answer these, or it will be answered when the map comes out. But for now, it's tough.