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  1. Definitely pumped. I'm particularly interested in what in on the computer monitor on the Left side of the screen. Looks to me like it might be a drill of some sort.
  2. This is a great theory. While I don't have a physics background, I do have a biology degree, so I'll give two theories on how 115 might be working here. First, a "quick-ish" explanation of effects of radiation on the human body. When radiation (referred to as an ionizing radiation-maybe EJ can explain if that's different from the radiation neutron bombs give off) enters the body, it knocks off an electron on a molecule and generates a free radical. The new free radical now has a charge and will attempt to steal an electron from any other source in the body. This will happen naturally throughout your day due to radiation in our environment. We're kept safe because the body has natural antioxidants that will feed an electron to free radicals and protect other, more important molecules. However, if the amount of free-radicals exceeds our body's ability to eliminate them, damage will occur. The damage can be very small, like causing a small break in DNA; through the accumulation of small changes like this over many years, cancer can develop. If the amount of free-radicals is HUGE in comparison to the body's compensation mechanisms, massive damage will occur: DNA is wrecked, cell membranes become porous, everything rushes in to the cell and (basically) the cell explodes. This results in what is called radiation toxicity or radiation sickness. If the amount of damage that occurs is large enough, death can occur. 1. 115 as a Protective Mechanism In "We All Fall Down", it talks about helicases to bind the 115. Helicases are enzymes that split the DNA double-strand so that replication and translation can occur (see image below). If helicases are opening up the DNA, it could be allowing 115 to be incorporated into or alongside the DNA-strand. When the Nuke activates, 115 could then be acting as an anti-oxidant and feeding free radicals electrons. Thus the character's DNA will be protected. Another idea I had, is that exposure to small, constant amounts of 115 is protective and not incorporation itself. 115 is radioactive in real life, so if you were to be constantly exposed over a long period of time, your body may strengthen its own ability to fight radiation. This has been shown to happen in bacteria, but not in humans as far as I'm aware. However, the process of up-regulation of proteins and enzymes in response to a constant stimulus is well documented; the up-regulation of dopamine receptors in the brain contributes to addition. A similar mechanism could be happening where our characters are protected because they've been constantly exposed to 115 but have never had it incorporated into them in such a way as to cause massive damage. 2. 115 as a Damage Amplification If you look at the next line of "We All Fall Down", you see: "Nonresponsive, their ferritin is high, in vivo, and but still seem to be alive". This seems to be describing the process of "zombification". More specifically, it talks about having high ferritin. The line about ferritin is particularly interesting. Ferritin is an iron-storage molecule that is usually INSIDE of a cell. Increasing levels of ferritin IN THE BLOOD can be a marker of cells dying and releasing their contents (remember the explosive cell death I mentioned earlier?). The person is suffering massive cell death from the helicase incorporating 115 into DNA, thus resulting in their "death" without them "dying". This seems to be a little more in line with what real-world data of Ununpentium (element 115) we have. 115 is considered to be highly radioactive; as it is incorporated into a person's DNA, necrosis and death should result. However, the person survives and becomes a zombie. Dead, but still clinging to some shadow of life. What if a zombie were exposed to just a little more radiation? One possible outcome is that it could overwhelm their body's ability to prevent free-radical damage, thus amplifying the relative damage, resulting in death. This is (kind of) the idea behind using radiation to treat cancer; cause the cancer to get so much damage in such a short amount of time that it will die. The trick is getting the dose right so that you only kill the cancer and not the rest of the person. I propose that our characters receive a protective mechanism while the zombies receive a damage amplification mechanism from 115 that contributes to the effect of radiation damage from a neutron bomb (AKA Nuke).
  3. First, I've created the alphabet key/table, cipher text in numerical form, and plaintext after substitution Alphabet: Numerical Cipher Text: Submitted Plaintext: Second, and more importantly, I don't think we're done with this cipher yet. There are too many oddities for me to be convinced there isn't more information hidden on this page. Here's my list of...oddities: We don't use the circles or lines in this decryption process Every number in the key is used TWICE in the document but only once in the cipher text This is determined by searching the document created by Draz. I've also cross referenced it in a version created by Waterkh, so it isn't a copy error. This includes all number in the key, both primes and non-primes. There are only two exceptions: (547, 937, 257, 499)- all of these numbers only appear once in the entire cipher text (107*, 608, 20, 174*)- 107 appears twice and (608, 20, 174) appear twice but they only appear together once. Why are there numbers in the cipher text and alphabet that are not used in the plaintext? Perfect example is the letter Z. There are 7 numbers associated with it but they are not part of the plaintext. They do not offer any additional functions such as spaces or punctuation. I don't believe it complicates the cipher in any way and could easily have been left out, such as with G, J, or Q. Personally, I think this requires more looking into, but if people have other theories/explanations I would love to hear them!
  4. My request for the scraps was filled by GQ:
  5. @InfestLithium Blundell did confirm that there was a cipher in BO3 that is double-enciphered. Specifically it was during Milo's interview, and it was for "all of BO3", not just before ZNS. My point being that you're basically describing a process of double-encipherment, which has been confirmed. And yes, only the scrap papers remain on ZNS. Its unclear at this point if they are 2 separate ciphers or are linked into 1 cipher with key and plaintext.
  6. @Kalinine I just posted a request for your technical drawings and for the scrap papers. We'll see if anyone can help. https://redd.it/4k9azs
  7. While we're on the topic, could a PC wizard also get a picture of the scrap of paper that's in the dragon room? I'm trying to rule out a turning grille cipher and I need a complete image that's proportionally correct. Specifically I need a vertical shot of it, as if you were standing on top of it and you look down. Thanks!
  8. @DragonGJY A cryptogram cipher is a mono-alphabetic substitution, AKA simple substitution. You substitute one letter of the plaintext with one letter of the cipher text and one letter only. In our case, the key was: "15, AUROBELISCDFGHJKLMNPQSTUVWXYZ". The 15 denoted the offset of the alphabet. Below is the alphabet with the start highlighted. The "AUROBELISCDFGHJKLMNPQSTUVWXYZ" is fairly quick to spot. The "15" in the key apparently means that the 15 of the plaintext is the same as 15 in cipher text. Certainly would not have been my first guess as how to use the 15, but there you go.
  9. New Cipher found on ZNS. It's over by the Green Water. I'm having trouble attaching the picture, but there is the link to the imgur album and here is the original post on reddit. Here is the cipher text as best I can read it: Kvxga pzd lwtv sb pzd Rvtxhc Xoo Fsoxgypw var zzczlqnnsjm, pxb Cupngyl qny zo vsflaxydd kwky zip eixhe laxoktr jwnl yc sar hfjksrdd gvm mzhyrryokzzh he ttu zbq Astirwyh 9 bnahlvjr ss pzd irdihm rc zecunpaa. Zd artslaa nd pngvssnjky gvip xb thlc tfnkb ii elemhwb so aokihuz if oyg jbwbuqct. Qyi ohb H bwjw fsst rhsj pyop td aioyoggszh sj kyyx idw uhnzfzqx wvde ryh qse khj czi Fmpsy. I would put money on this being the Shino Numa cipher that's found on The List.
  10. @DragonGJY Here is the long-form of the cipher in excel. The 15 rows is easy enough to understand, but by "offset" it means that you start the zig-zag after traveling 5 lines (starting in the 6th row). It was actually important to do by hand to solve bc I helped me see that there was a secret "space" hidden as the first character of the cipher. If you want a computer to do more of the heavy lifting, check out the Geocaching Railfence Solver.
  11. @Kalinine I think it's a good possibility that the underwater cipher by power (see below for reference) is actually the 5, 25 cipher. After doing more work on it to figure out exactly what type of cipher it is, my new guess is that it's a Nicodemus Cipher. This is due to transposition of both its columns and rows (see below). I'm not 100% sure of this, but what I can say is that assuming this method, you find that that the column length is 25 and that the proper start of the plaintext message is 5 rows down in the cipher text. The other piece of evidence is that I feel both of the transposition ciphers "go together," and that their keys would as well. Since I'm very confident the newest cipher solved is the 15, 5 cipher, I think it makes it more likely that this is the 5, 25 cipher. Of course, we don't really know until we solve the other ciphers on the map, namely the scrap paper ciphers. And there might even be a new one waiting to be discovered still.
  12. @whats his face I think the next step is to figure out how many total unique numbers there are and to get the frequency of each. If there happens to only be 26 of them, the cipher becomes easier as we just start substituting based on frequency.
  13. For the newest cipher (Zipline Cipher), I went back through and attempted to confirm the number of spaces included by creating bars that measured the space between the words: There appears to be spaces of 3 different lengths, so my conclusion is that the different sizes correspond to 1space, 2spaces, and 3spaces. This would bring the number of spaces in the cipher to 87, and the total length to 505. One limitation to note is that I cannot definitively say how many spaces appear at the end of each line. I assumed there was only 1, but it could be more, thus increasing the total character count. Ways to attack this cipher: This is most likely a transposition type of cipher, which reminds me of the other transposition cipher on the map. On ZNS there have been multiple uses of Vigenere ciphers being used, so it is possible that the transposition cipher has repeated. The one I solved was a strange variant of a columnar transposition cipher. I solved it using techniques for a columnar transposition, but the final composition was very different from any that I had heard of. This makes me wonder if I did not solve the cipher the "correct" way. If that's the case, then spending time figuring out the "correct" way to solve the transposition would help us understand how this cipher could be solved, especially if the two transposition ciphers are 1 and 2 on The List. However, if we apply the same techniques I used before, then we run into difficulties. I found the column length by noticing the 115 in the cipher text and knew they had to be associated. The only nice landmark found in this cipher, like @Nieno69 pointed out, is the letter "Q". In English, Q is always followed by the letter "U", so we can use that to our advantage to connect 2 columns together and use that to branch outwards. FYI, this is the current route that I'm taking at the moment.
  14. @Nieno69 I also noticed that there might be a connection between the one I solved and the new cipher. I was thinking about how the cipher I solved had columns that were 25 characters in length, so my thought was to apply it in some way. I do like your observation that the 5 may indicate the starting point for the cipher text. Have you tried your theory yet? @Tac The Shinonuma cipher hasn't been identified yet, but the Aurora Borealis key is the Cryptogram cipher that Liz solved. If you map her alphabet, it was offset by 15 letters as the attached image of the excel page shows.
  15. @Kalinine 5th piece is on a shelf near the purple 115 water in the bunker. And unfortunately it seems like the only way to use the free-cam mode in the dragon room is to be a wizard.
  16. New cipher found by RicardaHub on reddit: "It is located near the bottom zipline where the skull fountain for the ritual is. On the box next to the fountain, the side facing the wall weapon has this note on it" Ciphertext: (With spaces not specifically denoted) f wexaieelscar hodu inm ev eefrenrmv la eeitgaeeotet peveal otss bgteatorstpmse tn atdeeenafmh me xlhhcse se yca hrencar buueeeeaeatsey e ia neaeamttum detht fxlr hshsaa t lacneslfhpehisoeijetheaet pt tihildsmonndh ittalewscnvo evcs or t etdlauerde trne ba i dirte ataitifher inmct ua eertltetansponshu t moik lttg hnpqpnav aesannoi ip re ta satohseuaorepecush sosooegnesebwsls more roncorlhhjewortr snnr cnd ae ew tyeoyi pfiw e fuefw iopie osbugilcn ru cle e teig or ilnumt rloasardhnynl (With spaces denoted-including guesses at double-spaces) f_wexaieelscar_hodu_inm_ev_eefrenrmv_la_eeitgaeeotet__peveal_otss_bgteatorstpmse_tn__atdeeenafmh__me__xlhhcse_se__yca_hrencar_buueeeeaeatsey_e__ia_neaeamttum_detht_fxlr_hshsaa__t_lacneslfhpehisoeijetheaet_pt_tihildsmonndh_ittalewscnvo__evcs_or_t_etdlauerde_trne_ba__i_dirte_ataitifher__inmct_ua_eertltetansponshu_t_moik_lttg_hnpqpnav_aesannoi__ip_re_ta_satohseuaorepecush__sosooegnesebwsls_more_roncorlhhjewortr_snnr_cnd_ae_ew_tyeoyi_pfiw__e_fuefw__iopie_osbugilcn_ru_cle_e_teig_or_ilnumt_rloasardhnynl I included two versions of the cipher text because it IOC and frequency analysis suggests a transposition type cipher.
  17. @Nieno69 We are the exact same wavelength. These seem to be the keys for some of the ciphers on the map. 5, 25 - ? 15, 5 - ? Mother - Resnov Cipher shinonuma, AMUNOISHZYXWVTRQPLKJGFEDCB - ? 15, AUROBELISCDFGHJKLMNPQSTUVWXYZ- Cryptogram Cipher ASCENSION - Gersh Cipher Known but unmatched ciphers: Crossword Cipher Base64 Cipher in lab A T9 cipher Transposition (Power) Cipher I don't think it's on the list bc the columns went in order. They started in the middle, but then they followed in increasing numerical order until it looped back to the first column. I'm going to keep looking into this though. Binary DNA cipher Chalkboard cipher- no substitution/trickery occurred between numbers and their letters.
  18. @Kalinine Oh you're totally right! Swap out "Fight" for "About". Clue- When the boxing match put an "a"? = A-bout EDIT: Final message then is- Urgent Telegram [STOP] We Have Just Received Word That The Private Plane Carrying The Expedition Crew Encountered Freak Atmospheric Event Which Caused It To Crash Killing All On Board Including The Famous Explorers Brock And Gary [STOP] This Comes Weeks After Owner Announcement Fight About The Location Of Shangri-La
  19. @Nieno69 Ok, so I tried to make a very long post that explained everything with lots of pictures. Unfortunately there were too many pictures and I couldn't get them to work with the upload size for posts. However, I did manage to copy it on put it on reddit. Here is that link to my more in-depth explanation. Hope it's a little more clear!
  20. So I'm pretty confident that I solved the underwater cipher by the power turbines: "Richtofen must understand that using these teleporters to jump between dimensions is both dangerous and imprecise. At any point, the fabric of space-time could collapse if the proper amounts of 115 are not maintained. l am also concerned about the unknown effects of trans-dimensional jumps. l have noticed even with my brief travels that new memories and emotions have flooded my mind, suddenly appearing from nowhere. l am also sure something is happening on a molecular level as well." Here is the final cipher text I used: 1u_oeRh_ls_ndpisusu_eaiie5lansiano_h_.rc_mtlsnntmd_dnsecpootae_o_apaauldhe_a_y__hpwdhvflpon_nrry__narc_itteheaef_efdbd_e_emsbeopseonedt_ear_e_l_amyio_lo_lfir__ncm_sittespo_ounlibeenemnot_apmwhvoptbntoanopgn.yetsamapeaemeira_tptto____wi_locretleaoilt_s,hrmo_m_cosueen__trne_hme__tunlimefon-c_uahisfjea_tdes_ned__ttidssin__u_iihartaadm_tcsisii_nghtmunfens__m,oero_memnwg_arpnt__g_um-_rvanoe.ege_fvaskatfetnoasiencf__n_lirev.niharodlluense_cAstlso_e_onebo_eesds_-r1otih._mfllwe_rujrcod_wdn To get to this point I had to "massage" a columnar transposition cipher to get 20 columns made from 19 columns originally. Basically spaces had to be added that aren't readily apparent in the original ciphertext. Then you get a weird wrap-around version of a transposition cipher. I've color coded it for (slightly) easier reading: Start with the green "Richtofen" through the cross-over, and then end with the red "well." I've never heard of this happening with a simple columnar transposition, so I'm not entire sure that it actually is. If someone knows, please fill me in!
  21. Hey guys, I figured out the last cipher on the list. Here is a video that shows a little better where the cipher is located. it is a Vigenere cipher like the one Nieno solved. However, this one has "Mother" as the keyword. Ocfyeuq. W avtv fvxzi jovxtekuql yirov rvy zz hbti ja cny wtusgamjfg vhr dmyx bwv at moid, rck P oeak moi nqgmlve rfhux ze cg alv nfbuo fr qhsprbgx. alves ljlvyompgj U vtci jfcelr wdcf Nvfgd 935 pppc qbtipv gg mv gfzgmyytf cny snz khuhvd kxhtfzg pomtt kbsp yqzi bw kgfg alv fwwl sw fvx dei mbw nmmq il cmtfckf smqf moi Xqffhr guul. P jvmf, avavhsk, P azxz gvx cujx as jqs momj. —H Comrade. I hope these schematics reach you in time so our scientists can make use of them, for I know the western front is on the brink of collapse. these schematics I have stolen from group 935 will enable us to construct our own wonder weapons which will help us turn the tide of the war and give us victory over the German pigs. I fear, however, I will not live to see this. —V
  22. @deamonkeeper a better picture of the third cipher is on Kalinine's post:
  23. @Doppelgänger Oh well done! I also recognized the Japanese country code, but i was hung up on the "-" representing words separations. Great insight. Also, what a cool message. If you've seen the Vigenere that @Nieno69 solved, then the city mentioned here is the same "city in flames" there, Stalingrad.
  24. I was trying to think about the size of the map a little bit more: Evidence for larger map: From the description,the map will feature "DIVERSE ENVIRONMENTS FROM LUSH, TROPICAL FOREST TO THE STARK, OVERGROWN LABORATORY FACILITY" (Honestly, this description kind of reminds me of the multiplayer map Gauntlet, but I think that's not actually a fair comparison). To me, diverse environments implies larger area to showcase said environments. The laboratory in released images is labeled "LAB B", which means there could at least be a "LAB A", if not more. If we're going to be using "ZIP LINES OR THE SEWER SYSTEMS TO EVADE THE ZOMBIE HORDE" my gut tells me that this will be used to traverse large areas of the map. But, I can't ignore the fact they might just be used to help traverse terrain; for example, like your idea about there being big trees on the map, or may it's just a way for us to not get cornered on top of the lab building. On a side note, I also think that the sewers are the most obvious place to incorporate swimming mechanics. I wonder if it will an area where players can traverse the map, but zombies can't follow. The problem I see with my "safe-zone" idea is that it could too easily be abused. A "air restriction" could keep the time spent in it to a minimum, but unless that took time to "refill" you could just hop right back in again. Evidence for a smaller map: Blundell has called this the scariest map yet for Zombies. Personally, I find maps that have tighter corridors and less areas to train are scarier. At the very least they are more anxiety provoking. I think a smaller sized map would really contribute a scary atmosphere. I personally don't think the lab buildings look that large in the picture. By eye-balling it, I think it looks more on scale with buildings from Nuketown. It looks like there are 3 floors to "LAB B", with the length of the building being roughly 3-4x the height of the door; looking at Nuketown, I think this building on a similar scale but only 2 stories: I certainly would find it hectic training zombies in there. If this is indeed true, then it doesn't really matter if there are a few of these labs, they still are not going to contribute significantly to map size.
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