Ragdo11706

@83457

No the only thing I've seen is that one image. The image in particular is a "Bump" image (I believe). I think it's like the 3d image underneath of another image, making that image "Pop". If any of that makes sense. Now I've never seen it personally in-game, with that being said it's in the files so it means "Something".

I believe what it means, may possibly be that in comparison to the PaP wall (the one that breaks relating to the "Gateworms"). Possibly starting out with that particular one, going clockwise. Or in another manner, completing the Rituals in order they appear on the Wall, but picking the "Gateworms" up in order of the picture. I'm not exactly sure what any of it means, if you go in the Canal District, and look at the ground you can see a texture that resembles a "Gateworm". 

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This is the "Texture" directly beneath the "RubyRabbit" sign. All of them appear near a "Cocoon" spawn location. Looks like a "Gateworm" to me.

@PINNAZ

Can you confirm this is what's known as a "Bump" Image. Also can you find it within the Coding yourself, to verify it exists & possibly what name it may be referred to as.

@Nightmare Voyager

 I think your reading the Thread wrong. I'm not saying any of the stuff in the OP, is how it currently appears in-game. I'm simply stating the differences between when the game originally shipped (delete all current patches & updates, play offline). Will result in build version 8.0.0.0 & the most recent version I had, being 33.0.0.0

 In that particular build, I could still "PaP" the "Apothicon Servant". I'm not sure which build version you guys are on now, I would imagine somewhere in the 43.0.0.0 range. Being that I have to pack my Xbone up and drag it somewhere anytime I want to update it.

 I normally tend to wait until the DLC is released. This is when I'll be playing on the most recent build (at the time), until the following DLC is released, or whenever I can get internet where I currently live. Whichever one comes first is obviously going to make my decision for me. 

 No worries though, the T-Virus hasn't got a hold of me that bad, Yet! No love lost either, haha ;-) I still thoroughly enjoy the convos we've had! 

P.S. ARK-7 dually noted and fixed! Thanx.

4 hours ago, Rissole25 said:

I thought the ARK name was changed before the game was even released. So if I was to delete all game data and patches, the KN-44 would be called the ARK? Nice.

Yes, this is correct. Everything I have mentioned above, is how the game was when it was shipped, not how it is now. Build version 8.0.0.0 to be exact.

Want to see my best early round game, haha.

Don't even ask....

@83457@mmm chocolate

Yea I kind of do the same thing, basically. I like to either complete all 4 Rituals, while not opening the Sword Chamber at all. As well as I like to get the "Apothicon Egg" fill it completely, put it back in the Altar, but not touch the Sword. This is all while not completing a single Ritual. I also like to run games where I don't touch either one until once the "Apothicon Servant" has been built. Of coarse all the games I mentioned, I like to have said objective completed, before building the "Apothicon Servant" to begin with.

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So you want to hear something else "Weird". Remember how I mentioned, I have no longer been seeing the Devil-O lights. Well yesterday (technically the day before) I had to uninstall the game from my HD and reinstall it. This resulted in me going from build version 33.0.0.0 back to build version 8.0.0.0

Well I began playing once again on the "Original" version The game shipped with. I can no longer play The Giant until once I do an update, to load the game into the memory (which sucks). So wouldn't you know, as soon as I buy Trip-Mines the first game and begin upgrading them.

Starting out in the Junction, I turn around and look up, and there it is. The big stream of "Yellow" light, just like the Mystery Box, and inside of it is 3 bolts of "Lightning". I shit you not.

Furthermore, I'm not aware how it is on the most recent patch, but I know on Version 33.0.0.0 the rain had disappeared from my screen. I could no longer see it, but I could still hear "Thunder" as well as see "Lightning" in a distance. Now all of a sudden the damn rain is back, which I cannot stand by the way.

Lastly, I'm going to update my post & tag you there, as I feel were the only 2 still actively searching, or possibly even cares anymore at this point. I will say I still firmly believe, it's in he game not going to be added, as I've gotten the quote that was supposedly added just recently, a handful of times now. 

Well I don't know if this matters or not, being that I'm not connected to the internet (simply because it's unavailable where I live). I don't have access to either one of these Gobble Gums.

With that being said in almost every game of "The Giant" I have played I've gotten the "Perk Bottle" Drop. One thing I noticed was it had to be before Round 20, I had to purchase the Teleporter, not just link it. Most of the time I had to do this multiple times per Round. I can't remember for sure, I feel as though the "FlyTrap" E.E. had to be completed, or I would only receive them before it was completed.

Again, this may in fact be due to me not being connected to the servers. Although I would imagine since I don't have access to those particular Gobble Gums, I therefore wouldn't receive the "Perk Bottle" Drop.

I would love to test this out for you guys, but I'm going to have to take my Xbone somewhere and do the latest update. As yesterday when I uninstalled the game from my HD, once I reinstalled it I can no longer play "The Giant".

7 hours ago, 83457 said:

Is it the Tram by chance? Maybe it hums. That would explain the location possibly.

I tend to ride it there, taking Waterfront>Footlight>Canal route for symbols. Plus, it keeps me from casually cheating out of the map for a few seconds here and there.

You know, that's a good possibility. The District the Tram is in, is the same District in which the "Hum" is present. I'll have to definitely check this out. Would really make it easy to figure out which District it's in.

15 minutes ago, Stop Mocking Me0 said:

Oops. Misread that. 

All good brotha, I just wanted to point out some of the interesting things Treyarch changed over time. I forgot one, the Margwa used to have two of the three mouths open at once.

Honestly if you never move the box, which is fairly easy on this map, since "Purple" Pods will then give you a Ray Gun (which I prefer for the Margwa Mask & Margwa). Max Ammo should never be a problem, simply because instead of all those FireSales, they'll be Max Ammos.

I'm not exactly sure how the Gobble Gums work, simply because I don't have internet, I can use any regular Gobble Gum infinitely. Is this different when your connected to the servers. I've always figured you just had to acquire the Mega G.G. as well as the Ultra-Rare G.G. and whatever else I'm missing. You could still use regular G.G. or do you have to get those out the vats as well.

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But I agree, I often use Alchemical Antithesis and find myself camping on the Smoke Lounge. Albeit I can still PaP the "Apothicon Servant", I still rather enjoy the craziness in it all.

@Nightmare Voyager 

In all fairness, they fixed that a few days after it happened.

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@Stop Mocking Me0

I'm on Xbox One. I believe you've misread what I'm saying. When the game was originally released this is how everything was, only later it was changed to what it is now. 

Did NOT always have this, Infamous "Black Dot". 

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So earlier today, I kept having a lot of problems as far as the frame-rate dropping. Everything looked broken, textures weren't loading correctly, when I would come out the "Rift" everything would be black for a few seconds. So I went ahead and uninstalled the game, since I was playing on Build 33.0.0.0 anyways, I figured there wouldn't be that big of a difference.

Once the game finally finished installing, I decided to start up a game and compare some of the differences I could find between Build 8.0.0.0 & 33.0.0.0. As you would expect, there really weren't that many;

• Starting door is 750 instead of 500
• 6 shots & a knife on Round 1
• Zombies become aggressive on Round 2
• Pods don't turn "Purple" until Round 14-15
• ARK-7 was changed to KN-44

• Attachments for guns look slightly different

• Can't put a camo on the "Bowie Knife"

So as you can see, there really weren't any major changes. All of the Easter Eggs & Side Quests are still present, everyone of them. The "Apothicon Servant" Audio Que still triggers, as it should. 

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However, I noticed once I got to the "Ruby-Rabbit" something looked, different. The infamous, "Black Dot" is missing from the lamp shade, but why. Why would Treyarch go through all that trouble for something so, frivolous.

Now, I know more than likely, this is absolutely nothing, or its just to "Fuck with us" as Mark Lamia would say. Could this possibly be a subtle "Hint" from Treyarch, pointing toward something we may have missed. 

If this is already well known, I apologize. I've never seen it mentioned before & was rather intrigued by it.

TL;DR

The Infamous "Black Dot" on the Lamp inside the "Ruby-Rabbit" did NOT always exist. It was actually added, after the game initially came out. What, could've possibly been the reasoning behind this.

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For anyone that cares....

2 hours ago, Rissole25 said:

What's the bet they'll only give out those posters to a select few? They'd make a killing if they sold the posters.

I'm curious to see how many each store will actually receive, then out of the employees, how many are given to the public. I'm sure where I live won't receive many at all.

49 minutes ago, STASIBOMB said:

108!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsk9JJO3sY4

Very nice.

Mines 60 0 downs, I quit out of boredom. I'm going to eventually run one, one of these days when I'm not trying to figure out how to acquire a damn "Cocoon".

@83457

Just a quick update. I've ran twice now where I've had the same results. In the two games I played, when I ran without messing with the Sword Altar at all, both occurrences resulted in the following "Upgrade_Ready" Quote.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1u6dMdWfeCO

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Even still I'm not going to say with complete confidence, 100% the "Apothicon Egg" is directly related to the "Upgrade_Ready" Quotes we receive.

I'm going to continue to run more tests, without completing a single Ritual, until once the "Apothicon Servant" has been built. I've gotta figure out the Trigger for the "Zoroth Orota" Audio Que.

10 hours ago, ZombieRambo24 said:

Im good dude. ur on the internet asking for apologies. Im not famous and havnt offended any special interest group. your funny af. not a good look for you.

Dude, chill out bro. It doesn't make you look cool, or like "Biggy Bad Ass". The whole point these guys are trying to make, this forum is NOT Reddit. We "R-E-S-P-E-C-T" each other around these parts, not belittle the fuck out of each and everyone that has anything to say.

8 hours ago, 83457 said:

I read your update. 

Most times when i did the swords and AS before opening PaP, i would get the "zornash, na'orruja, zornash" on my first AS shot.

That's by far the most common quite that I've heard.

Yea I agree. However last night when I I got the "Zoroth Orota" Audio Que (that they supposedly just added into the game) even though I'm playing on Version 33.0.0.0 

I believe the trigger was building the "Apothicon Servant" on a Parasite Round while a Margwa had spawned in. Now in that game I had the Lor-Zarozzor. I normally never get this name, and I believe the reason being, as I've stated before is determined by the "Apothicon Egg". 

You see, tonight I tried to recreate this exact same game, only difference being, I built the "Apothicon Servant" at the end of a normal round and not on a Parasite Round where a Margwa had spawned in. I did everything else the exact same.

I started of by not completing a single Ritual, but placing each item at the respective Altar. Then I obtained the "Apothicon Egg" and filled it completely, placed it back in the Sword Altar and did NOT pick it up. 

When I finally built the "Apothicon Servant" the name was, Lor-Zarozzor. However, in my opinion since there were no Margwa present while building the "Apothicon Servant" or when I activated the first Ritual. This lead to the "Zornash Na'Orujja Zornash" Audio Que.

I'm going to continue doing more tests, and likewise will continue to update here.

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If you look a the Coding between the red lines, this suggests that effect is normal. The weird thing about it is like I was telling you, I no longer see this anymore. I'm curious if you'll continue too see it, or after a certain amount of times completing it, you no longer see this happen.

2 hours ago, Dr.Z said:

Wow.. You blew me away with that picture bud. That IMO is definitely the fetus of our beloved IDGUN.

I agree.

This is the very reason I feel as if the "Apothicon Egg" does in fact relate directly to the "Apothicon Servant" which makes sense honestly.

8 minutes ago, PINNAZ said:

Good discussion & ideas going on here. But I've got nothing to add sorry. 

 

Treyarch = 3

No worries mate. The more people who see it, the more ideas we can generate. Hopefully something comes out of it, I'm starting to feel whenever its found will be by accident.

Black Ops = III

1 hour ago, Dr.Z said:

3 is definitely key, I've been thinking this. So are you saying the egg is crucial as well? It's definitely related to the quotes?

Just listing hings that relate to 3: 3 symbols for the egg, 3 pod stages, 3 fountains per district (right?) 

I just updated the OP. You can easily see where as it has *EDIT*. 

Yea I've been saying for a while now that I believe the "Apothicon Egg" relates to the "Apothicon Servant". I'm not guaranteeing it but I feel as if they are definitely connected somehow. Especially knowing what grows inside of it. 

Yea 3 is definitely something reoccurring in this map. We also have 3 different Bose types. A 3 headed Margwa, a Parasite, and an Elemental. We can have a max of 3 Beast uses. 3 Locations for the "Cocoon" or possibly 3 different ways in obtaining one. 3 different upgrade ready quotes.

This is the thing growing inside the "Apothicon Egg". To me it looks like the fetus/embryo of an "Apothicon Servant". If you notice the Tail, then compare that to when you build it, the Tail has the same design as the outside of the Egg itself. There's also the snout on the face and the litlle legs, that eats the Eggs we feed it while reloading.

23 minutes ago, Nightmare Voyager said:

Strange how it is 0, 1, 2. You'd think its four for each variation, so what triggers those three? What three things in the map could trigger a cocoon to spawn? Everything's usually in fours, we need to think in threes.

This is what I was wondering if I should make a new thread based upon. From what I've been able to gather, I'm almost positive the quote we get is based on what stage of the "Apothicon Egg" we're on. 

If you think about it there are 3 stages. It's original stage when you first pick it up. The middle phase if you will, where we are filling it and something inside of it is growing. The final stage is when we put it into the Sword.

Now every time I've gotten the "Zornash Na'Orujja Zornash" Quote I've been in the process of filing the Egg. Last night I decided to not even grab it, and I got the "Upgrade_Ready_2" quote. 

Now I've finally been able to recreate the "Zoroth Orota" quote, what I did was filled the "Apothicon Egg" completely, placed it back it the Sword & left the Sword on the Altar. I did NOT pick it up. When I went and started the first Ritual, immediately the audio Que played. 

Just a side note. All the tests I've ran were while none of the Rituals had been completed. I tested it while having the Ritual Items,  not having them, and even placing them all at each individual location. Also remember I'm on Version 33.0.0.0, which I highly doubt matters.

54 minutes ago, Nightmare Voyager said:

 

Do we know what any part of that quote means? Maybe we get the Keepers from the ritual and suck them into somewhere using the servant. Which servant do you have right now?

Oddly enough I have the Lor-Zarozzor which is the one that I Never receive for some reason. I'm not aware of the Translations for that specific quote.

However I feel as if I've made another breakthrough in regards to the quest. Just now looking back at the Coding, I realized something. I noticed that there may in fact be 3 separate ways in obtaining a "Cocoon". 

The reason I say this is in the Coding it specifically states, 

idgun_cocoon_0_found

idgun_cocoon_1_found

idgun_cocoon_2_found

Ironically enough when it comes to the "Upgrade_Ready" Quotes in the Coding they read as follows;

Upgrade_Ready_0

Upgrade_Ready_1

Upgrade_Ready_2

Now I'm not sure about you, but when I see both of these, and then compare them. It suggests to me, there are in fact separate ways in obtaining each "Cocoon". Depending upon which "Upgrade_Ready" you've received.

On 1/13/2016 at 10:35 AM, Nightmare Voyager said:

In all fairness it isn't the guys fault. He provided evidence for why he didn't believe in the WW upgrade and he even said that if you think there is still an upgrade that it is fine and their might be but it was his opinion. People on the reddit really twisted his words too. But I believe the WW upgrade is still there. I mean, his reasoning is solid for everything he says and it makes sense but I just really think that the upgrade is well hidden and I am hoping that this is a breakthrough in it. Any updates on anything so far?

Yea I agree. Yes as a matter of fact I believe I've worked out the solution as to the cause of each individual "Upgrade_Ready" Quote. The only problem is do I update this Thread or start a new one. 

P.S.) I'm playing right now & have it paused, I just now began my first Ritual with the Apothicon Servant and I didn't have to fire the weapon. I immediately got the quote "Zoroth Orota" as soon as the "Keepers" began to spawn.

2 hours ago, 83457 said:

Ragdoll, it was bigyayay that said he thought it was grapple.

I hear 'akzorror', he hears 'astorro', which is grapple.

Ohh, ok gotcha.

1 hour ago, Difintel said:

I don't think you lie, but we need proof to show it to other people.

Also DF is not a God, but he is one of the researchers for the WW in Reddit who brought us several interesting things

Yea I understand, the only proof I can provide is the version I'm still playing on. I can assure you without a doubt, all 3 "Upgrade_Ready" Quotes are in this specific build. 

I'm aware of who D.F. is, l wasn't necessarily saying you in general. I was speaking as a whole, the vast majority of people take everything he says as actual, FACT. Without him ever providing any concrete proof, he's even stated, "In my Opinion". Meaning he's not 100% sure about it, he just thinks it.

Even then people still take it as if he's actually confirming it. Yes he may have looked through the coding and seen things we were unaware of at the time, he's also the same guy that stated, "There are still Sword Levels we've yet to reach". However this  turned out not to be true.

@DaveLo07

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@Difintel