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  1. Man, these new intel drops are really getting good. You forgot to add the part about how Woods was probably around for every Dark Aether Outbreak. And since he can’t die, Woods could never become a zombie.
  2. I will restore me honor with these votes 1. Abracadavre- Gotta go with the Classic Sam Song 2. Shockwave- Toughie, but I like how the Shockwave highlights the rivalry between Sam and Richtofen
  3. 1. Beauty of Annihilation vs. Alone Alone is fantastic and such a strong start to CW, but we wouldn’t be discussing any easter egg songs without Beauty of Annihilation. I feel I have to go with tradition here. 2. Remember Forever vs. Snakeskin Boots I really loved the song’s attempt at being a period piece. The seemingly pleasant and upbeat nature of the song with its sinister lyrics set the stage for Shadows of Evil thematically. Snakeskin Boots is unique in that easter egg songs rarely match the map’s genre/era. Plus, the song is just too catchy. 3. Nightmare vs. Abracadavre Abracadaver. The song hones in on Samantha’s perspective and illuminates that inner turmoil. I can still remember the lyrics today. I love Nightmare too, but it also gets out on a technicality. While it went well with the apocalyptic ending of Moon and could be a nice parallel to Richtofen’s internal struggles, I think Avenged Sevenfold made the song independently of zombies. 4. 115 vs. Where Are We Going? Toughie. Both are rich in content. Yet, Where Are We Going will be the victor because it was more emotional. The song really conveyed the existential fear and hopelessness of the Mobsters. It does Mob so well. 5. Beauty of Annihilation (The Giant) vs. Cold Hard Cash Cold Hard Cash for the same reason as Snakeskin Boots. 6. Shockwave vs. Pareidoia Uggh, toughest one for me. I think these alongside Abracadaver are my favorite Sam songs. I think I am going to pick Shockwave though. I love how the song set’s up the cat and mouse game between Richtofen and Samantha. It also was a breath of fresh air with Classified being the long overdue return of Ultimis. The map and song was such a needed throwback.
  4. I agree with Rad. If Shangri La, Buried, and Tag der Toten have taught us anything, then the Siberian Base could be located in Siberia and Antarctica. It is like a Geological Schrödinger’s cat, the base is there and not there at the same time. And, it is most definitely because of the Hollow Earth. You are right on the money. It could function similar to the Hollow Earth in Monsterverse series. This version of the Hollow Earth has subterranean entryways and tunnels creating a highway that connects various points around the globe. The series stays close to the classical depiction of the conspiracy theory. In Zombies, the highway may or may not be a physical connection. I would also bet it has to do with leylines as we have discussed before. It is very strange that we haven’t gotten anything related to Antarctica in the story by now. I am also shocked that Admiral Byrd hasn’t been mentioned especially in Classified or Alpha Omega. Finger’s crossed it is because they are saving it for a future plotline. I may be misremembering, but Tag takes place on the coastline of Russia, right? The connection to Tunguska is because the Soviets moved the materials to Tag.
  5. 1. Samantha- She is like the fifth member of Ultimis (no offense, Pablo). Going back to the first zombie yelling something resembling the name “Sam”, Samantha has been there since the beginning. Before Monty and the Apothicons, she was the big-bad. 2. Takeo Masaki (Ultimis)- I like Billy, but the Ultimis crew is too iconic. They are perfect and will always hold a special place in my heart. Rock on, Tak. 3. Sal DeLuca- Gonna have to go with my goodfella over here. The mobsters had an elaborate backstory. Despite Five and CotD, the Mobsters started the trend for Treyarch’s approach to “one-off” crews. Even with only one appearance, they all felt like well-rounded characters. Sal and his Pals managed to be interesting and engaging with the occasional wise crack added into the mix. He is one of the celebs that I would like to see return. 4. Doctor Maxis (Original Timeline) - Don’t get me wrong, I really like Peter. He is iconic in his own right. Peter has been hanging around since the beginning and recently got more backstory in Alpha-Omega. However, Maxis had more time to develop as a character. Alongside Samantha, Maxis is another staple of the series; especially in Ultimis’ story. 5. Tank Dempsey (Primis)- Like Schuster and Peter, Pablo had little screen time. He is also like Peter in that he has his own claim to fame. Being the supposed mystery portrait and fifth test subject, Pablo is ingrained in Ultimis’ lore. However, Primis Dempsey has the honor of showing a saner version of Tank. In a roundabout way, Primis gave more legitimacy to Ultimis as characters. 6. Doctor Monty- Stu had one of the most interesting backstories of the Victis crew. He even had a few good one-liners, but Monty is something else. The story potential and questions surrounding Monty overshadowed his own late entry into the series.
  6. Don't worry, I always appreciate more detail. That is really interesting, especially the campaign connections. That is a nice way to add the Nuketown skirmish. I just thought it was weird that it refers to the pre-five operations as Broken Arrow. They mention "projects focusing on a targeted assault". It makes it seem like Broken Arrow was more than a concept at that point. Shouldn't they just be the 115 Dod operations? @RadZakpak That is a great idea to expand Mac's timeline to a Google Doc. Given how flexible the story is, having the Doc is like our own Kronorium.
  7. Now I am confused. I thought Broken Arrow was in response to the events of “Five”? Doesn’t the “Weapons targeting Samantha line” imply that Broken Arrow was operating as Broken Arrow before the outbreaks? Chronicles and Classified make it appear that Broken Arrow was the 115 division of the DoD pre-five. Maybe saying 2 incidents in two days is a bit semantic? The outbreak could have begun during the evening of Nov. 5 and died down once Ultimis left. Then during midnight/early morning, the next wave of the outbreak happens? I would have to check the clocks in each. Plus, it doesn’t account for how they cleaned up the Pentagon. The Panic Room, for example, looks fine in the Five cinematic. It would make more sense if “Five” happened first. The “Five” outbreak stifles the talks with Cuba and causes McNamara to become preoccupied with Samantha. The Pentagon survives, but is in shambles. In the process of recuperating, Ultimis arrives and triggers another outbreak; most likely because the Pentagon is in a vulnerable state.
  8. Thanks! Maybe that is the case? The dragons in DE seem more supernatural, while the dragons in ZNS are more biological in nature. Maybe those dragons and dogs are possessed haha? Also it is really funny that you mention Danger 5, I was recently thinking about watching it haha. When I was writing that post I was also thinking about the game Dino D-Day that involves a similar concept.
  9. Wow, the timing on this is really weird. I am currently working on a paper/presentation involving the concept of Satan in Christianity.Personally, I think you are both right. There seems to references to various deities (including cthulhu) in the maps over the course of each game. However, there is a direct reference to Satan in Shadows of Evil. I have not posted on the forums in a while, so I am sorry if what I am about to say was mentioned before. When you start a round in Shadows of Evil, the Shadowman mentions you have been “marked”-noted by the marking etched on your hand. I am assuming this mark is what allows one to become the beast. Therefore, it would make the mark, the mark of the beast. The concept of the "mark of the beast" is heavily associated with Satan and the end times. Furthermore, if you look at the mark it looks like a six. In fact, it looks like three sixes superimposed on one another. The number 666 is also associated with the mark of the beast and Satan. As for the dragons, I wonder if the ones in ZNS are separate from the dragons in DE. For me, the dogs in MotD seem to be the product of a supernatural (possibly demonic) entity. The do not look like the same hellhounds we see in earlier maps which have more scientific origins. Just as fluffy and the hellhounds may be separate from Cerberus in MotD, maybe these dragons are different from the ones in DE. On a side note, we have zombies (including dogs, monkeys, mech-suit zombies, plant monstrosities), hellhounds, robots, “ghosts”, and interdimensional beings. Now we have dragons and giant spiders. I really think it is about time Treyarch finishes this entourage of enemies by adding Dinosaurs. That is all we need. Can we please have a Nazi Zombie Dinosaur army?
  10. Dirty cop Ohh. I didn't know that, I guess I should watch the trailer a second time. I was just going off of what I saw in my first viewing. Is there any information on who these new characters are? All I have seen was the names on the Charlieintel twitter and the trailer. Info about the characters here: http://www.callofdutyzombies.com/index.php?/topic/179421-sof-info/ Perfect! That is just what I was looking for. Also I like the name Morg City, that is clever.
  11. Dirty cop Ohh. I didn't know that, I guess I should watch the trailer a second time. I was just going off of what I saw in my first viewing. Is there any information on who these new characters are? All I have seen was the names on the Charlieintel twitter and the trailer.
  12. It is definitely connected to Mob of the Dead. I just watched the trailer now and the narrator mentions how each characters’ “sins serve as an invitation”. These new characters just like the Mobsters are trapped in some type of realm/dimension as a punishment for their crimes. This theme of punishment for a wrongdoing seems to play a large role in the storyline. Furthermore each member of the original four also had a criminal or violent past. I am starting to wonder is the larger storyline a giant atonement process for Dempsey and the gang? I also noticed that one of the new characters (the magician/occultist one) is named Nero. I guessing the name refers to the tyrannical Emperor Nero of Rome. It would tie into the “sinner” theme. Furthermore, Mob of the Dead also featured references to classical history and mythology. Plus the Character Vincent appears to be another mobster. Lastly, does anyone think the Shadow Man has a connection to the 5th picture in Kino?
  13. They may have incorporated one of my suggestions aswell. Before black ops 2 came out, on the official COD forums I made a thread full of suggestions. One of which was about a Mech-Suit zombie boss. Although the ones in Origins are slightly different compared to Mech Zombie in my description, I like to think that I made a change. http://community.callofduty.com/message ... #205695890 It is idea number 7 on my list. I really think Treyarch does listen to the community. IRurG money would be nice , but it is still pretty cool to think that you may have had an impact on a game's development. I'd chalk it up as a win. Just make sure you ask for the check upfront next time :lol:
  14. No thats a big stretch. I just cant see 3arch being that creative to tell a story only to end it open ended happening. Seems like a clear ending to me. This, it's an EXTRA GAME MODE with a small department in comparison working on it, regardless if the campaign came and helped here and there. They aren't going to invest all these things that people try and justify with real world events, and how it all plays a role in the grand finale, when TREYARCH HAS NEVER CONFIRMED ANY OF OUR THEORIES IN 5 YEARS LOL. Take this however you want it, but just don't disregard this ending as completely impossible is all I'm saying, it really can be this simple and some choose not to see it. That's one thing this community is known for though which is going over every inch before coming to a conclusion, so I can expect nothing less lol. I tend to over analyze things a lot . I am not disregarding the ending. I do believe it happened. I am just looking at it from a different perspective and trying to fit it into the storyline. Could I be wrong? Yes entirely. Could the ending be that simple? It sure can. But I feel I should at the least express my thoughts and see what happens from there.
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