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  1. Man, these new intel drops are really getting good. You forgot to add the part about how Woods was probably around for every Dark Aether Outbreak. And since he can’t die, Woods could never become a zombie.
  2. I will restore me honor with these votes 1. Abracadavre- Gotta go with the Classic Sam Song 2. Shockwave- Toughie, but I like how the Shockwave highlights the rivalry between Sam and Richtofen
  3. 1. Beauty of Annihilation vs. Alone Alone is fantastic and such a strong start to CW, but we wouldn’t be discussing any easter egg songs without Beauty of Annihilation. I feel I have to go with tradition here. 2. Remember Forever vs. Snakeskin Boots I really loved the song’s attempt at being a period piece. The seemingly pleasant and upbeat nature of the song with its sinister lyrics set the stage for Shadows of Evil thematically. Snakeskin Boots is unique in that easter egg songs rarely match the map’s genre/era. Plus, the song is just too catchy. 3. Nightmare vs. Abracadavre Abracadaver. The song hones in on Samantha’s perspective and illuminates that inner turmoil. I can still remember the lyrics today. I love Nightmare too, but it also gets out on a technicality. While it went well with the apocalyptic ending of Moon and could be a nice parallel to Richtofen’s internal struggles, I think Avenged Sevenfold made the song independently of zombies. 4. 115 vs. Where Are We Going? Toughie. Both are rich in content. Yet, Where Are We Going will be the victor because it was more emotional. The song really conveyed the existential fear and hopelessness of the Mobsters. It does Mob so well. 5. Beauty of Annihilation (The Giant) vs. Cold Hard Cash Cold Hard Cash for the same reason as Snakeskin Boots. 6. Shockwave vs. Pareidoia Uggh, toughest one for me. I think these alongside Abracadaver are my favorite Sam songs. I think I am going to pick Shockwave though. I love how the song set’s up the cat and mouse game between Richtofen and Samantha. It also was a breath of fresh air with Classified being the long overdue return of Ultimis. The map and song was such a needed throwback.
  4. Thanks! Maybe that is the case? The dragons in DE seem more supernatural, while the dragons in ZNS are more biological in nature. Maybe those dragons and dogs are possessed haha? Also it is really funny that you mention Danger 5, I was recently thinking about watching it haha. When I was writing that post I was also thinking about the game Dino D-Day that involves a similar concept.
  5. Wow, the timing on this is really weird. I am currently working on a paper/presentation involving the concept of Satan in Christianity.Personally, I think you are both right. There seems to references to various deities (including cthulhu) in the maps over the course of each game. However, there is a direct reference to Satan in Shadows of Evil. I have not posted on the forums in a while, so I am sorry if what I am about to say was mentioned before. When you start a round in Shadows of Evil, the Shadowman mentions you have been “marked”-noted by the marking etched on your hand. I am assuming this mark is what allows one to become the beast. Therefore, it would make the mark, the mark of the beast. The concept of the "mark of the beast" is heavily associated with Satan and the end times. Furthermore, if you look at the mark it looks like a six. In fact, it looks like three sixes superimposed on one another. The number 666 is also associated with the mark of the beast and Satan. As for the dragons, I wonder if the ones in ZNS are separate from the dragons in DE. For me, the dogs in MotD seem to be the product of a supernatural (possibly demonic) entity. The do not look like the same hellhounds we see in earlier maps which have more scientific origins. Just as fluffy and the hellhounds may be separate from Cerberus in MotD, maybe these dragons are different from the ones in DE. On a side note, we have zombies (including dogs, monkeys, mech-suit zombies, plant monstrosities), hellhounds, robots, “ghosts”, and interdimensional beings. Now we have dragons and giant spiders. I really think it is about time Treyarch finishes this entourage of enemies by adding Dinosaurs. That is all we need. Can we please have a Nazi Zombie Dinosaur army?
  6. Dirty cop Ohh. I didn't know that, I guess I should watch the trailer a second time. I was just going off of what I saw in my first viewing. Is there any information on who these new characters are? All I have seen was the names on the Charlieintel twitter and the trailer. Info about the characters here: http://www.callofdutyzombies.com/index.php?/topic/179421-sof-info/ Perfect! That is just what I was looking for. Also I like the name Morg City, that is clever.
  7. Dirty cop Ohh. I didn't know that, I guess I should watch the trailer a second time. I was just going off of what I saw in my first viewing. Is there any information on who these new characters are? All I have seen was the names on the Charlieintel twitter and the trailer.
  8. It is definitely connected to Mob of the Dead. I just watched the trailer now and the narrator mentions how each characters’ “sins serve as an invitation”. These new characters just like the Mobsters are trapped in some type of realm/dimension as a punishment for their crimes. This theme of punishment for a wrongdoing seems to play a large role in the storyline. Furthermore each member of the original four also had a criminal or violent past. I am starting to wonder is the larger storyline a giant atonement process for Dempsey and the gang? I also noticed that one of the new characters (the magician/occultist one) is named Nero. I guessing the name refers to the tyrannical Emperor Nero of Rome. It would tie into the “sinner” theme. Furthermore, Mob of the Dead also featured references to classical history and mythology. Plus the Character Vincent appears to be another mobster. Lastly, does anyone think the Shadow Man has a connection to the 5th picture in Kino?
  9. They may have incorporated one of my suggestions aswell. Before black ops 2 came out, on the official COD forums I made a thread full of suggestions. One of which was about a Mech-Suit zombie boss. Although the ones in Origins are slightly different compared to Mech Zombie in my description, I like to think that I made a change. http://community.callofduty.com/message ... #205695890 It is idea number 7 on my list. I really think Treyarch does listen to the community. IRurG money would be nice , but it is still pretty cool to think that you may have had an impact on a game's development. I'd chalk it up as a win. Just make sure you ask for the check upfront next time :lol:
  10. No thats a big stretch. I just cant see 3arch being that creative to tell a story only to end it open ended happening. Seems like a clear ending to me. This, it's an EXTRA GAME MODE with a small department in comparison working on it, regardless if the campaign came and helped here and there. They aren't going to invest all these things that people try and justify with real world events, and how it all plays a role in the grand finale, when TREYARCH HAS NEVER CONFIRMED ANY OF OUR THEORIES IN 5 YEARS LOL. Take this however you want it, but just don't disregard this ending as completely impossible is all I'm saying, it really can be this simple and some choose not to see it. That's one thing this community is known for though which is going over every inch before coming to a conclusion, so I can expect nothing less lol. I tend to over analyze things a lot . I am not disregarding the ending. I do believe it happened. I am just looking at it from a different perspective and trying to fit it into the storyline. Could I be wrong? Yes entirely. Could the ending be that simple? It sure can. But I feel I should at the least express my thoughts and see what happens from there.
  11. In the words of Samantha during the Fly Trap achievement.... I WANT TO PLAY A GAME Lets play hide and seek.... Seems relevant to me Cool! Thanks. I think I am going to compile my theory. I think it is all real. And I would like to say that Eddy is a liar. I think we know who is controlling the zombies from now on. And his name is "Eddy". I am debating how I should go through with this. Should I go and make my own thread or leave it all here? I was also thinking about making a video where I just explain my theory. I am too antsy to type. Should I make a video?
  12. It never was a game, everything is real. I have my own personal take on the ending to Origins and I was wondering if anyone would be interested in hearing it. The theory- I personally believe the ending is a façade. Something that cannot be taken at face value. The Zombie Saga is not a game, but Samantha THINKS it is a game. Simply put- the ending is a projection of Samantha’s consciousness in the Aether being manipulated and twisted by a malevolent external force. The entire cutscene takes place in the Aether in this false reality. Samantha believes her actions to be a part of a game, but they are really happening. So what do you think? Should I pursue this theory?
  13. I was wondering what the easter egg would be like and I came up with this- What if the easter egg revolves around a Richtofen vs. Samantha scenario instead of Richtofen vs. Maxis, and adds a MOTD-like twist? I know a few others on the forum were wondering about time travels potential connection to this map and the concept of rewriting the past. And so, I was wondering what if the easter egg revolves around a future Samantha (and a COTD styled cameo of future Takeo, Nikolai, and Dempsey) contacting the crew in the past to alter the course of history. You could either choose to listen to Richtofen and let things happen as they normally would or you could Free Samantha and alter time. Now it would function like MOTD in the sense that the only way to get the achievement is to help Samantha. IF you help Samantha you break the cycle and the real ending is given, but if you help Richtofen the cycle repeats itself.
  14. After watching the pre-release gameplay footage, I noticed that Origins' loading screen is not a comic book page. I was confused at first but, I think I know why Treyarch made this choice. Origins' loading screen isn't a comic book page... because it is the cover for the comic book! We have been told Origins is the beginning of Zombies. Well it literarily is. Although it wouldn't explain MOTD's placement in the comic book as it should be next. But yet, MOTD takes place outside of time and space. So I can assume its placement in the comic book is not as crucial as Origins.
  15. In Origins, I was wondering if we would see some references to the Thule Society. I know from 1917-1919 the Thule Society was being formed. A brief overview of the Thule Society- The Society was a German “Aryan” Occultist organization that studied the origins of the Aryan race. It was established in 1917 by Walter Nauhaus, a wounded German WW1 veteran. He was a Berlin Art student who was connected to another secret society known as the Germanenorden (Order of Teutons) and his Thule Society was meant to be the Munich Branch of the Germanenorden. By 1918, due to some discrepancies, Nauhaus’ Munich Branch of the Germanenorden became its own society. And thus, the Thule society was born. The society’s primary focus was the origin of the Aryan Race. They believed that the Aryan Race came from the mythical Greco-Roman island of Thule, hence the name. Later, the society was supposedly intergraded with the Nazi party and helped fuel the Nazi’s Occult interest. Other members on CODz in the past have made threads connecting this Society to the Vril and the Vril’ya. Therefore, I am trying not to be redundant in this post and sorry if I am repeating well known information. As far as I know Group 935 wasn’t founded yet and it would take years before the German’s Workers Party became the Nazis we all know today. So who is leading this excavation or more importantly, WHO is interested in it? Could it be possible that in our Zombies universe, this German excavation could be spearheaded by the Thule Society or helped lead to the society’s creation? Could the Thule Society have created Group 935? Group 935 worked with the Nazis, who were also influenced by the Thule Society. Could the Thule Society be pulling the strings? I think it is entirely possible that the Thule Society could have taken interest in the newly discovered element 115 and the mysterious ruins found at this excavation site. And for the heck of it….. why not the Illuminati? Could they be involved in some way? Although I do have a theory that connects the illuminati to the MPD and the true controller of the zombies (but that is for another time). We know Richtofen is a part of the organization and could it be possible that he could have aided them here? A shot in the dark but why not- What if there is some rivalry between the Thule Society and the Illuminati? And Maxis pledged his allegiance to the Thules and Richtofen the Illuminati? Wikipedia Links- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_society http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule
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