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  1. The Partially Cyclical Omnipotent Samantha Theory

    I dont believe this loop, cycle paradox theory as people know. But i want to give a outside the box perspective on this quote (which is one of a few) It could well be Maxis is only talking abou the paradox of him being a brain in the jar, this alone is a paradox due to not being part of the rest of the arc, in fact nothing in origins has really been mentioned in any of the other maps, let alone what happens here. That is the paradox that must be fixed. Secondly, if the paradox cycle theory is to be believed, it was set in motion by Samantha herself in Origins, which then Led her to go on and create yet another paradox on top of a paradox, which then snowballs into a cycle which blah blah blah you see how bad that scenario would be? I agree the rift in time and space, ive believed the aether is a tunnel to parallel dimensions, a gateway if you will. But i dont believe for one second i. A cycle that needs to be stopped, w@w and BO1 mention nothing on this, it was only in BO2 this became talked about, strange seeing as the earth is blown up and Richtofen is now in Samantha's body. Meaning this was foretold aswell (again nothing mentioned in w@w or BO1)
  2. The Partially Cyclical Omnipotent Samantha Theory

    Still stuck in traffic thanks to a bomb alert on dartford bridge so cant supply the stuff i need. Operation shield is part of it, however Richtofen was referring to the Shield itself in Der Riese, its not just an operation name, alot of people miss some vital information from W@W and BO1 regarding it, its purpose in the facility itself, Richtofen and Maxis mentions different aspects of what the shield is, and is all up for speculation. However i believe the clues lie within the description of Element 115 and the AETHER Maxis talks a out in later maps. 2 main things i remember back from W@W i come up with through research, the eclipse helped semi prove that the shield (could) distort time / create a time bubble shield thanks to using the aether. Secondly i found articles related to the lunar eclipse that helps amplify magnetic / electron / particles which could explain why Richtofen chose to do what he did on a lunar eclipse Well if you want to talk about that, you might want to do what Mega said and make a thread on it when you gather your materials. Btw, guys, just heard an interesting quote from Samantha that definitively disproves the "it's just a game" crap. (Again, not a theory.) Samantha says "I just want to go home." Now why would she say that if she was ALREADY IN HER ROOM THE WHOLE TIME? I'm just kidding. I know logic isn't the best defense with that theory. Theres so much info to post il have to do a seperate thread for it lol Samantha mentions from Moon several qoutes like "I dont like this game" "I dont want to play anymore" but she also comes out with several qoutes on moon like "I just want to go home" "I dont like it here anymore" and then the same maps mentions Richtofen and her dad (and fluffy) "i will kill you for what you have done to Daddy Edward!" "Why did you do that to my dear fluffy daddy" I dont believe zombies has been just a game, infact i strongly believe otherwise and will defend that idea based on 17 maps of facts from in game. I DO however believe Samantha is playing a game while TELLING the story of her Father and (IMO Richtofen Senoir). She does specifically tell us this. However as players we cant play a zombie map with no zombies, and people would be in outraged if we had a map like NDU with next to none story elements. This is the GAME that WE play. The ciphers found in Origins is real, however the zombie outbreak, Maxis being chopped open and everything else i believe did not happen (although everyone will think differently on this) I will point out in my defence that Maxis in origins couldn't find the original staff of the ancients, but built 4 replicas which we find... However Richtofen PRE moon finds all the pieces of the original Staff, the Vril generator (golden rod), the focusing stone all point to the original Staff.
  3. The Partially Cyclical Omnipotent Samantha Theory

    Still stuck in traffic thanks to a bomb alert on dartford bridge so cant supply the stuff i need. Operation shield is part of it, however Richtofen was referring to the Shield itself in Der Riese, its not just an operation name, alot of people miss some vital information from W@W and BO1 regarding it, its purpose in the facility itself, Richtofen and Maxis mentions different aspects of what the shield is, and is all up for speculation. However i believe the clues lie within the description of Element 115 and the AETHER Maxis talks a out in later maps. 2 main things i remember back from W@W i come up with through research, the eclipse helped semi prove that the shield (could) distort time / create a time bubble shield thanks to using the aether. Secondly i found articles related to the lunar eclipse that helps amplify magnetic / electron / particles which could explain why Richtofen chose to do what he did on a lunar eclipse
  4. The Partially Cyclical Omnipotent Samantha Theory

    I wrote my posts completely wrong, a noob mistake, doesn't happen ofter but i apologise none the less Im looking through my own theories and the Shield is activated in Der Riese, not disabled. My theory was that the shield is some sort of element 115 Nuke or a time distortion device using the Tteleporter technology as Der Riese is essentially trapped in time A repeating message on the P.A. system: "Warning, the shield is now active, find and destroy the designated materials and report to the barracks, this is not a drill." Not to be confused with operation shield. Im stuck in traffic atm, as soon as im home il post everything i compiled during w@w days
  5. Who is "Eddie"?

    Sorry what i meant to add but my phone clearly didn't type and i clearly like a twat i might add, didnt bother checking before hitting send. We Didn't play as Tank in Verruckt, the marines who were sent to retrieve Agent Peter (and for all the "New players" who joined in from Black ops only, the original characters of Verruckt were not Tank, Takeo, Nikolai and Richtofen) I have always believed that Tank was captured from Verruckt, Takeo from Shi No Numa and Nikolai from the nearest pub (even did some pretty convincing theories on it) But my question is, was Peter the American agent or was he the "Mexican" or is Harvey Eyna "HYENA" the prime suspect still? s Richtofen mentions them quite a few times Im trying to close some personal holes in my own theories and would like your opinion. Also we have a date that connects Maxis, Samantha and Fluffy at the same time, would Origins end cinematic be before that date or after? I believe the timeline is important as ever Could Eddie be agent peters son? Both are American, so many possibilities given what i formation we ha e
  6. Who is "Eddie"?

    Very good points alpha, especially bringing older information back to light for people. 2 things of note though, we know the USA sent an American spy to infiltrate vurruckt who was Peter, so the American link is definitely there. However doesnt the terminal files state the marines were lead BY tank Dempsey? We successfully inserted Peter into Group 935 as a research assistant based out of Munich. Current location is unknown, but his last transmission suggested he had been transferred from the Der Riese facility to a top secret location known only as Verruckt. Most recent communique indicated that the 935 experiments are barely under control. Attempts to secure all visible Group 935 research of Element 115 technology have been unsuccessful. We fear that Peter identity has been compromised. Sending in a Marine Recon unit to extract Peter from the asylum before it is too late. Operation leader will be one Tank Dempsey. The asylum must be contained at all costs.
  7. The Partially Cyclical Omnipotent Samantha Theory

    Thats not a problem, il go through all my old files and theories i made copies n post the ones relevant As it happens i also came up with a theory during W@W and kino Der Toten where the original 4 are already dead (not in the sense that people now believe its a figment of Samantha's imagination or what have you) In W@W and BO1 terminal files it states people who come into contact with element 115 suffer from delusions, paranoia and hear voices and suffer other side effects, and that those who die who have already come into contact with element 115 then reanimate into the zombies. My theory was Tank, Takeo and Nikolai were dead before coming into contact with element 115, thusly they were reanimated, however not as zombies, they suffer from amnesia instead All the above was of course backed up by alot of INGAME audio files and such, but after the radios in later maps of Richtofen experimenting on Tank, Takeo and Nikolai who "couldn't remember anything" i kinda stopped working on that theory. Maybe i should dig through that again given the circumstances
  8. Who is "Eddie"?

    Would you even go as far as saying the voices Edward Richtofen hears from touching the MPD is actually Eddie being instilled in him? Far-fetched, yes. Just food for thought. Not far fetched at all, (although i believe the MPD incident occurred after they started hearing voices didn't it?), given several quotes throughout the years, however i still believe its the Origins Richtofen thats trapped in the TEDDY, mainly due to the age 1918 Richtofen then becomes the young Richtofen working for group 935 in WW2, seems abit off But i still believe theres 1 piece of information we are missing, something is niggling in the back of my mind and i cant quite get it EDIT no your right i looked through my files. Maxis started hearing voices early on due to coming into contact with element 115, however Richtofen only started hearing voices after creating Teleporter technology and when he was teleported to shangri la and the. The MPD site
  9. The Partially Cyclical Omnipotent Samantha Theory

    I really don't know. Even if it did turn out to be the same, I don't think it would be significant, as one could easily write that off as a re-used sound effect. (Not that I am a fan of that argument, but it could be made.) I thought it might be, and could well be the case, as the timeline wouldn't fit, but i dont know if you was around at the W@W time but alot of people believe the "Shield" Used Element 115 and the Aether to protect time itself, when the "Shield" went down, all the clocks stopped in Der Riese, and all zombie hell broke loose. Been some huge fierce debates back on the official forums years and years ago about it. Considering we know of time travel and the Aether being able to pull and push things back and forth through time, thought I'd mention it, especially as Maxis references Richtofen joining him in Group 935 (which is based directly on Der Riese and what happened there)
  10. The Partially Cyclical Omnipotent Samantha Theory

    I am egotistic and arrogant, im also a zombie veteran who has been on the official cod zombie forums since before CoDZ (before carbon started it up) But enough of us arguing. Wasn't that the siren used in the Der Reise radio of the "Shield" coming Down? Sounds awfully famiar to the one in Origins cinematic. Maybe not, but i know i have heard it INGAME in a previous map. Gonna have to go find it now it will drive me insane
  11. Who is "Eddie"?

    Again instead of dismissing people, myself and OP have provided a plausible scenario to who Eddie is. He is not a friend, he is Taken in by Maxis when Eddies parents are killed, (Sophia could be linked to Eddie aswell but that is for another time) these facts are provided INGAME from hidden ciphers written by Maxis himself I have no doubt that the ending isn't what we believe, I still believe Treyarch have made their one and only slip up with the web description of Origins calls it an ALTERNATE-REALITY. However even though it probably is as such, the information found inside is very much real. For instance, Edward Richtofens favourite gun happens to be a MP40, he says so countless times through different maps, and an MP40 happens to be on Samantha's wall. This goes back to Eddie being Origins Richtofens son. Like father like son....in more ways than one
  12. Who is "Eddie"?

    I remember that episode in Red dwarf lol, brilliant show The thought of Richtofen messing with his own timeline can be supported, quite easily, we know items, people and souls / spirits can move through the Aether so it is all very possible Maxis mentions ALLIES and contacts in America so the American accents might have a clues placed there all along 1 thing that still sticks in my mind and may mean nothing but its something that sticks in my head alot... In nuketown 2025, Richtofen says "Stupid Maxis and that Stupid Accent" or words to that effect, As Richtofen And Maxis are supposed to be German, this didnt really make any sense to me (until the Eddie in the origins end sequence happens, then a whole heap of what the heck opens up and gives way to new theories and questions)
  13. Who is "Eddie"?

    Went through all audio files. The quote is "First ill find Sophia, then il find Teddy" However all all the quotes theres a pattern Samantha refers to herself as both Sam AND Samantha She refers to Richtofen as "Richtofen, Uncle Richtofen, AND Teddy" Samantha's quote is about the wonder weapon in MOON "I wonder who built this, Daddy or Teddy" I Refer back to Richtofens quite in nuketown 2025 zombies "Login TEDDY password IS A LIAR, IM NOT, thats why no one would guess it" There are times when she is talking about the Teddy in different context however and this is where the theory can Differ Along time ago i mentioned the Aether as purgatory, a world between worlds, neither living nor dead, and with Origins. Its once and for all proved Aether and Argatha are two seperate places. In MOON Samantha mentions Gershs soul and how she should have destroyed it in Ascension. Not long ago i came up with the idea and posted a out Maxis killing himself on moon, his soul gets trapped in The Aether via the absorption of the MPD and he is Able to become pure electrical current and that is why he is only able to talk to us via electrical devices in MOON and beyond. We Freed Gershs soul from the Aether where Samantha is Trapped and he is released, possibly sent up to Argatha a higher plain, either way he was release as a glowing ball of light. It is entirely possible that going by my expanded theory of Eddie is Richtofens Son, The Richtofen Senoir from Origins also got trapped like Samantha and Maxis in MOON, and could well be that TEDDY he got trapped in, after all the TEDDy travels through the Aether in The Mystery box. It could also be the voices Maxis And Richtofens Son begin to hear when they start experimenting with element 115 in the W@W arc
  14. Who is "Eddie"?

    BUT it still is proof, provided INGAME by Treyarch themselves I believe Theres 3 types of people in the Treyarch zombie community Ones who strictly use INGAME (supported by real worlds events) evidence to come up with theories Ones who haven't found (or played) key things from the older maps and only basing theories off black ops 1 and 2 Ones who disregard the 100s of hidden pieces of hidden codes, 1000s of quotes and 16 previous maps and base their theories strictly on face value of 1 end cinematic (which however you spin it, is what they are doing) It doesn't mean 1 type or another is wrong, but it is my belief and practice (of which ive have successfully disproved 100s of theories to this day ranging back to W@W) we should primarily use INGAME information only (supported by real world events) to produce theories. Most of the information we know to this day was found by this alone PS i have never heard that quote from Samantha about Sophia and teddy so i shall go listen to all the audio files (even if she did say that in moon, i can explain that with a simple theory aswell but il wait till i hear it first
  15. Who is "Eddie"?

    Shes not, i did a post on this somewhere else but il do a quick short recap In Origins items from the past and future can be brought to the current time yeah? We also know people can travel forward through time (and back dependant on your view on moons timeline) This also mean that people's thoughts and words could also travel through the Aether at any given time. Samantha can not of been released in Origins, then Released in again in MOON can she? We never see Samantha in Origins like we did on MOON so Smantha was never really AT origins to begin with T least not in body, its easily possible that it is from when she just got trapped in the MPD
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