demesphor

another thread gave me an idea. what if the question marks from W@W arent really anything but a sign saying they were gonna change things? i mean yea the paper pieces are there but maybe they arent places in the map but are signs saying something was or will be here? just a thought that maybe its not in the game but its on the map. (map being the loading screen)

dude the books thing is a metaphor. i think i said that right...and it cant be both richtofen and sam cause they switched bodies they didnt fuse togather. 2ndly back then nobody knew what sam looked like. u find me 100% accurate info thhat thats who it is and i will apologize and give brains.

no i meant stage. as in place and time

I don't think we have codings for any of the BlOps Classic maps. I remember the rush of dissecting other maps in World at War after find Fly Trap, so I highly doubt there's anything more to find in those maps. And, in all honesty, I can't see them including any uber easter eggs in the other Classic maps. I don't see how they could pull it off without any of us noticing anything yet. I'm just thinking there's a few small hidden things that might still be floating around. Such as our hint at Ascension's PhD Flopper as the exploding Hand-print. By the way, a Friend of mine Jfta01 or something like that one here (He just lurks now). translated the text on Group 601 poster: STAGE TWO Strength Through Order Stage two? Didn't Richtofen mention "Ahahaha! It worked! Now onto stage 12..."? Just trying to make connections here... Bahahahahaha nice find friend. Yes he did say that. Funny stage 2 being in der riese. Where it all started

That proves nothing. We have concluded who it is. Ur opening a book that u think needs writing but infact its done. The picture is demonic announcer aka sam. The creators put it in as a fun little fact. The end. Ur dragging it out like ppl dragged out ascension

besides the fact that weve already concluded these theroys are wrong???

Ah, but that's the thing: we had the codifirmed there was no Continuation. People just freaked out over scrapped and were left in, effectively doing nothing; or people who didn't know how to read coding misunderstanding a line or two and freaking out. We have yet to see the Der Riese coding. PC people haven't gotten this map AT ALL yet, which makes me more suspicious... im a little scared as to what theyll find. pretty sad we have to wait for them though. i cant wait till it kicks off. noclipping and the de-coding. itll be wunderful. (haha stole it from the other guy)

u mean the things that explode and leave nova6 gas everywhere that dont look anything like giant gorillas? yeah them right? . fyi dogs come 5-8 round and they dont fight the zombies

or maybe its sam cause she went to the moon and turned into an aether demon thing and then switched bodies with richtofen and became alive again? we can go all day with this. its demonic announcer (sam) and its blacked out because treyarch wanted it to be a surprise and demonic announcer never had a face back then. weve already uncovered this please dont duplicate threads

Sorry about the double post, but I completely missed this. There's actually three books. There's another open manual hidden in the furnace across the bridge, next to double tap that also makes that same sound when you activate it. And I haven't tried doing anything around any other illuminati writing. I'm also just stuck at college all week with WaW in my dorm. I've been searching for new stuff like crazy, but if there's things you guys would like me to verify between the Blops and WaW version, post it and I'll give it look next time I play the WaW Der Riese. search the "?" on the map and search the gray square area that is in the Der riese BO version. has anyone noticed that ppl who say BO are saying black ops? there also saying body odor haha

Hmmm yes...yes...i think u maybe onto something. Question is what is the correct order [brains] to u sir! That is a break through! Theres more after that though. This seems like the most labrynth EE in zombies. Good find!

The pyramid IS vril technology. The golden rod is the key that was needed to open the pyramid and since the golden rod had to be obtained through means of vril technology. Its safe to say the pyramid is vril technology. I suggest that i agree with the aether theroy of cryogentic technology of the pyramid. It just makes sense and the most logical sense

A lot of this stuff just seems too suspicious to just be a coincidence. I really think they added something in... I really think so as well. Unfortunately I don't have World at War anymore, but I really want to check out both versions of Der Riese. The map can't be the only thing that has changed. If we can compare the two, than we can get somewhere. And weren't there any dog prints in the tower? I was always suspicious of that tower, but I never really looked until before when I posted about it. Perhaps there is a radio that was put there, that we have to hit with a grenade or China Lake/LAW? I think we can all say confidently, without a doubt, that we have more to discover in Der Riese. I couldn't agree with you guys more, everything we are uncovering here does have a certain air of suspicion. I agree that we should be comparing the two different versions of the map, and I'd love to help with that but my W@W disk isn't in the best of shape so I'm not 100% sure that it's playable anymore ! No-clipping and searching code, as far as I'm concerned, is cheating! Now I'm not a Nazi against it all because I can understand why people do it and all that but I just think that if Treyarch has put new stuff here, which I'm sure they have, then they would never have wanted us to find it by scouring through lines of code, where is the satisfaction in that? If we play it right (pun intended) we could be the first guys who discover what secrets there are to be found in Der Riese... If this is the piece of paper I think it is then I think it has already been found, however I don't want to take anything away from you so well done for finding it out by yourself. This could very well be what the question mark indicates but I don't want to jump to conclusions. I think the best thing to do, as a team, is to go back over the W@W map and snoop around the question marks that have been taken out of the Black Ops version. If we find them all (except the ones that remain on the BO version of the map) we may uncover a pattern and better prepare ourselves for what we are meant to be looking for. After all, the other '?' were removed from the BO version for a reason. Like I said though I don't want to jump to conclusions and that can work both ways, so as for now the readable-paper you are referring to may be what the question mark indicates - it may not. Personally though my bet is, now this may not apply to the '?' near spawn but definitely Maxis' office, is that the question mark indicates something on a higher level. It just seems too odd that they would place a '?' in a completely empty room that has 2 or 3 exposed floors above and a roof with some satellite looking things on (please, if somebody knows what those metal 'things' are on Dr. Maxis roof then let me know). As for the paw prints, these are something completely different. My first reaction was that Treyarch added these in purely for effect, but then I'm hearing about them being hidden in towers and then being removed from certain areas and it makes me think otherwise. There is a huge amount of Teddy Bear references in this map and I honestly can't see the significance of them. They may point out vital areas, you say there was one on the furnace? Well the furnace is very interactive, featuring in the fly trap and you throw a monkey in there to hear some cool dialogue, but I don't see how the other places that have these are as interactive so that kind of proves me wrong! Unless they are and we don't about them yet? I should maybe add the location of these prints to my OP seeing as though they are becoming quite popular, in the meantime though keep your eyes peeled for more of these. I suspect there are more to be found elsewhere. I'm interested about this shadow though. I can't say what it is, as i have never seen this before, but I'd guess it is the shadow from the power-ups? I suppose I will need to see it before I start making assumptions. Maybe take a video of this or something? That way it can be analyzed a little easier. All that being said, well done for working hard to keep these replies coming, I'm very grateful for the help and work you have put in, not just you guys but everybody involved on this topic. It's always good to see people eager to check these things out, keep up the good work! just for some clarification i am not talking about the monkey furnace i mean the 2 boilers near the teleporter. if u look by 2boiler 2 (without the man in it) there was once a paw print there in W@W and is not there now. unless im not seeing it since the boilers are still on its really hard to see with all the orange fumes. and the shadow is right after you start the flytrap as the items swirl around it came down. me and my friend andrew were watching it and i was at an angle to see it even though he wasnt. it was very strange...

So i think i found it. Under some floor boards near the spawn question mark is a piece of paper that u CAN read. It talks about isotopes are the element known as carbon. Idk if thats the ? Or not but i take back my red paper reply i had. This has to be the question mark its directly below and its read able. Also the paw prints, they tookthe paw print out in the thompson room, the one that was by the boiler thing. I really wanna know why their are paw prints. We shotm with lg96 and the wunderwaffe...nothing idk why they added those. Also when activating the fly trap i noticed a black shadow flies down to the fly trap as it spins the items. Not sure if it was just me or what but thats what i saw.

[brains] for u good sir. i never noticed. idk if its significant but good on u dude. try looking with a sniper next time and read it

picture of engineer untoten (look it up i couldnt post a pic) what is the significance of the man in the boiler who dies and why is their a radio of him killing himself after outbreak? and why did the man hang himself in the other room also heard in the radio? decypher Hai1.txt to many letters to type decypher hai2.txt decypher hai5.txt decypher radiance.txt

found this on the dreamland server after logging in via Vbush (project Data Servant) maxis is head of project data servant and talks about the Reichstag being happy with their armeeuntoten (army of the dead) and they believe the world to be theirs. but maxis explains how the untoten cant be controlled and that the virus is spreading. he warns that itll be the end of him and the world. (motive for his actions on the moon???) (files 1&2 explain this) The next transcript talks of group 935s outpost dubbed "the swamp" (shi no numa???) radios from hander of the operative "CVZGUTCT" who went missing after it sent. it then says the operative is presumed dead and the location of shi no numa has yet to be resolved. (huh?) its the radio from shi no numa (im sure weve all heard it but the transcript is there and im to lazy to write it out especially when weve all heard it.) cliff notes: shi no numa had an outbreak, 115 killed everyone and turned them into zombies. 115 is to dangorous, the DG-2 experiments must continue, find Dr. Maxis and Dr. Richtofen they know whats going on, the giant (der riese) must not fall. 60 54 06.96 101 55 44.94 END (this is file named SWAMP1) file number 3 of the data servant project elemtent 115 overview: meteors found in shi no numa, tungusk, groom lake (area 51), der riese, Moon. applications include: transporter technology, power source for DG-2, general weapon upgrades via CWZIMQJZDUMIMMPJZEHWZQJZEXZ side effects include: Reanimation of dead cells via inherent electrical properties (gourge romero???) and thats the end of that file but wait theres more (file 4 of Data Servant) new side effect as a result of experiment, Dr. Edward Richtofen as witness. displays our heroes names Subjects display unique side effects compared to previous subjects. baseline psyche remains intact, but all specific memories have been lost. Dr. Richtofen will continue observations. END (file named UPDATE) successfully inserted CWZGUTCT into group 935 as a reasurch assistant based out of munich (richtofen or peter?) transferred from der riese to verruckt. 935 experiments are barley under control. attempts to secure 935 emperiments unsuccesful. We fear CUZGUTCT identity has been compromised. sending in a marine recon unit to extract CQZGUTCT from the asylum before it is to late. operation leader will be one HVZJZQUZQTTYMPJMRTTQYM asylum must be contained RGXZSTJMGQGZZQWZFUPTWZGPNGXZRUEGZPJMGCTWZGCNGNT END (file 5 of data servant) ray gun summary prototype developed by doctor ludvig maxis origin Der Riese Facility stolen ideas from Shi No Numa powered by 115 second generation currently under development by M. Porter to reduce excessive peripheral damage (H. Porters Ray gun pack-a-punched ray gun) (file 6 of data servant) maxis is irrated with edward who insists on accelerating the 115 experiments even though 115 is limited. mistake to invite him. he cannot be trusted. he watches me. he watches samantha. he watches sophia. and his latest creation the monkey. it screams when set a flame. perhaps it is the 115 affecting my mind i can no longer discern. END thats all the files of data servant. what do you think???

That's actually what makes me wonder... Since in the World at War version, there were no dogprints in the tower. Also, While playing modded World at War zombies, after getting to a certain round and no clipping after the flytrap was activated there was a weird electric effect on Teleporter B's map. the same map that has a random metal square clipped through it as though it could be a button or something... in the exact area on the map that the incomplete room was at in World at War... A lot of this stuff just seems too suspicious to just be a coincidence. I really think they added something in... I really think so as well. Unfortunately I don't have World at War anymore, but I really want to check out both versions of Der Riese. The map can't be the only thing that has changed. If we can compare the two, than we can get somewhere. And weren't there any dog prints in the tower? I was always suspicious of that tower, but I never really looked until before when I posted about it. Perhaps there is a radio that was put there, that we have to hit with a grenade or China Lake/LAW? I think we can all say confidently, without a doubt, that we have more to discover in Der Riese. clearly lol. i looked around maxis office btw. and i found...NOTHING! if anything is there is up on the 2nd floor and u have to look with a sniper rifle which i couldnt get. what tower are yall talking about

If this is true then it is very interesting; I will have to check it out. Brain's for your find, even though it isn't confirmed it's just that you mention the Russian letters; what connection do the Russians have with Der Riese? I understand that the Office of Maxis' question mark is very difficult to work out, there are some things to bear in mind though. Firstly, the building in which the question mark is located has multiple floors that are exposed via holes in the wall (the cause of this damage is unkown), what if the question mark indicates something in these floors? Or maybe even on the roof? Why not try snooping around these areas with a sniper rifle? It could reveal something important we may have missed. Anyway, like I said, I will have to look for this red document but brains nonetheless! Peace x Ty for atleast taking the timeto look. I think IF it is russian letters then we can figure out the connection between Gurtsch and zombies history other then just some guy who got stuck in the kessimir device. I agree 110% with you on the holes in the ceiling i was looking at that even though i didnt have a sniper rifle. man its a pain to not get the weapon of choice but hey it was pretty cool to look at. i still love the way they re-did the maps. but yes the red document i noticed has never been mentioned. its directly below the ? so i figured maybe thats what everyone keeps missing. i for one would like to know what it says especially if it was put in AFTER everything thats gone down and by gone down i mean released. obviously it has happened yet I.E COTD, Ascension, Kino so on and so fourth. i honestly think that if this is what i think it is there could be another one somewhere in maxis's office. and im a hardcore zombie storyline junkie so I MUST KNOW!

so i did some run throughs through der riese. the ? after the first door (if u go that way) is directly over a document on the floor that is red. i didnt have a scope so i couldnt read it which made me sad but it looks like its in russian letters like from ascension... i dont know if thats true or not but thats what i had observed. someone else go check it out tell me your thoughts. as far as dr.maxis office im not so sure yet im still checking it out..

could it possibly be the teddy shadow outside the hanger???

not tring to troll on u dude but u kinda went back on your "this is where the story should stop and people dont have any good ideas anymore" tangant (sp)

thats what i was saying but someone from xbox fourms said that nikolai dies and they released a video of it. they called it "the end of the moon."

i heard a rumor that nikolai, our beloved drunk dies on the moon. anyone else hear this?

thaaaaaats what they do? thats kinda lame i was kinda hoping for something cooler. but very smart treyarch