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Sorry if this was said, but your OP is incorrect. Brock was never ever dead, Gary died, not Brock.

Agartha is inside the Earth, and Aether is in space, in the Heavens even.

I like the idea and curiosity, but I think it's different.

I love that idea Mac

I KNOW!!!

Lol too late. he already is insane, but I get what you mean. But remember that he has toys if his own!

OMG that would be great, and then there are 2 richtofen's in that paradox? OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG That's EPIC!

Great question. I think that Takeo will find a way to Aether and kill Richtofen, and the crew then controls everything

Sorry it just baffles me that that's all it took to get that conclusion. I'm not doubting the end product, I was wanna understand how we got there. What else to talk about?

Sadly that is true, we have the general knowledge of everything and we kind of know what will happen. But I think there are too many loopholes for them to stop, I think that it's all done after next 3arc game. They will wrap up the thief, peter, and do the whole story. Wait so because it says Aether on a note on the wall next to each teleporter? THAT'S how we concluded what it was? Is there anything that specifies on Aether besides THAT note?

And Agartha! But that would be REALLY cool. So Maxis and Sam are sent to Aether in.... wait. How did we even find out what Aether was? I know there is a note that says Aether, but how did we connect that it was between teleporter and mainframe? What proof is there of that?

Ya let's see: Pernell tells Peter to find Maxis. So I would assume both are alive. He says to contain Der Riese, so that means that the crew hasn't left for SNN yet. So that puts all this POST Oct 1, 1945 but not to far after? I believe that Maxis died in the month of October because Steiner defects to Russia on the 29th, so maybe he knew Maxis died, and found no reason to try and stay. To Mac: He was lured into Richtofen, remember that.

Ya, he could have told everyone that Maxis made an urgent visit to Kino to meet with Steiner

I think the Illuminate notified him that they wanted Maxis dead, and asked him to get a plan ready. That was the CoTD radio, and then he waited for the final signal to go ahead with his plan, which was the killing. I feel that he was under complete control of the Illuminati at that point

Ok, Harvey Yena. He created the Pack-A-Punched version of the Scavenger, is a 935 spy and works for MJ-12/OSS. I believe it is him hanging himself in the Der Riese radio. He says good bye friend, so the person is a colleague. If he is in the Illuminati, which I don't think he is because why would he say he knew it was him if he wrote the note to kill Maxis, then the friend would be Richtofen. What if the friend is Peter? And I lost you Mac, what do you mean "the edward note". Maybe Yena found out about how he killed Maxis?

Interesting. I wonder what it could POSSIBLY mean. It obviously means that Gary was peeping on the dancers of the show and wanted to know if he could get their number, but that's just a guess. But I really can't tell how many of these small easter eggs are truly important. I have a feeling EVERYTHING is ya know? To mac and football: I like the idea of Yena, except what I want to know is, what did Richtofen sabotage/do in Der Riese? On the board Yena asks him something like "I know you did it. Why? H.Yena" Not exact but I think it's close.

Haven't heard of it. Explain?

We should make a thread lol. But that is interesting, who do you think the person is inside of Der Riese who wrote the note to kill Maxis and all the other notes?

Lol that's easily something I don't want in this. Let's see, we have the eyes and the notes, is that all we have so far (not saying it isn't a lot)?

I think that the only thing in the next map will be how Richtofen begins to rule the world, and there will be an Easter Egg where you can interact with that somehow. TO MAC: I'm not sure how much I involve Illuminati anymore, they have so many notes lol, but that could be, or that there is 115 there

RIGHT NOW in the story I believe the Illuminati is of little relevance. Richtofen broke their hold and I doubt Nikolai joined, so I think they aren't of much importance anymore.

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That's what I was wondering. The problem we have is that we are mixing timelines. Some are talking about the time period we play there, and some talk about the order they are played. We need to just set which timeline we mean.

That was in a Shi No Numa radio, it was explaining the Der Riese teleportation to Kino.

Ya, so if we count those quotes, then we must count the Gersch one and Ascension is before cotd and even with out the gersch quote in COTD it can still be proven that ascension is before COTD in shangri-la takeo says "its no lunar landar, but it will do" when approaching the mine cart (exact quote) so ascension is before shangri-la and because of the quotes at the start shangri-la is straight after COTD. also, i haven't saw this posted anywhere yet so ill stick it in now, in one of the debris you have to clear you can see part of a lunar lander, so, what does that mean? Well, theresxan unfinished teleporter in Ascension, so I'm not sure if that are connected