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  1. Why does alcohol fuel my zombies ideas... I look at my posts, tell myself 'yea I wrote that' and continue to reply to comments as if I know what I'm talking about :surprise48:

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      Alcohol can be best friend....or worst enemy

  2. Nice post man. I've lost touch with my original post though. Can't remember what compelled me to compare GK with BA.
  3. The more I try to draw distinctions between which character in our story retains influence over the zombies, trying to figure out which colour belongs to who and how, makes me realize that it does not matter who it belongs too. When in truth it could be all part of something more... singular... anyway. Where and how does red come into play here? It's there, but has no origin like the other colours do! The next thing is Monty's red scarf, first seen in Buried. To me that red scarf is Monty telling us that we are at a crossroads in the storyline. Blood (obviously red) is another aspect to this. The Reaper and Hand stains in World at War to Black Ops: Call of the Dead. And the prominent red in Alcatraz - a literal bloodbath of a map littered with Satanic ritual... But to say Monty is the Devil because of a red scarf and the Shadowman telling us he is? Still not convinced. The Shadowman obviously wanted to turn on him with any means, besides, why would the Harbinger of Doom denounce doom itself? Even gods have gods.
  4. I watched this film called 'Split' directed by M. Night Shyamalan - great director when he lands good material in my opinion. The film is about a schizophrenic individual who has many [twenty-four?] personalities, and when he changes personalities his body chemistry has subtle but remarkable changes on his body. That part of the film, although interesting, is not the reason I am posting this. The man had twenty-four personalities, however over time the number dwindled to a dominant four, who in team took over this antagonist [Kevin] in an attempt of a shared agenda - to become 'the beast'. Again, that part is also interesting but not the reason I am posting this. If you watch the film, you would understand each personality throughout the film gets hold of the Spotlight. For Kevin, this is a mental construct his therapist had him create in order for a smooth transition between personalities. Sometimes it would be a kid, a mother and another man. They dress, feel and act differently than one another. One in the twenty personalities even discovered 'she' had diabetes... Recently I have seen people trying to understand what the eye-colour changes mean and who they represent. They want to know who it represents, however I am still on edge about who the red eyes are. Let us consider what it represents instead. Colour is an important tell when looking at these maps. I think a good example of this would be that [in Origins] a normal herd of zombies have yellow eyes, yet it was only when the miners broke down the wall and uncovered the corruption of Templar Zombies, that the corruption began to spread throughout the trenches. This is not the colour of eyes I'm truly concerned about, it is colour around the map in general. Yellowed-hazed zombies, we already think this is Samantha's influence, but the map itself from the colour of Divinium and throughout the map we are seeing this blue haze devour the map. It's atmosphere, it's tone, the snow and the cold blue of the Apothicon Sun. Yet, in Black Ops II - Tranzit specifically, the maps were mostly dominated by yellows and oranges, but the zombies had blue eyes this time around. It was at this point, before the division of Dimensions after Buried, the Apothicon influence was more subdued as compared to Origins. Alcatraz is, to me, still an anomaly at this point. It has a different, more punishing influence but still gives us room for redemption, offering us Hell's Retriever, then its redeemer. This map is unique because it feels like we are playing a map from another game within a different setting altogether. In Origins we at least remnants of yellow in the overarching blue of the map, but in Alcatraz, there is only darkness and red. And you could argue there are shades of blue there like in Origins, but those shades aren't compelling enough to me. More on Alcatraz down the line. Alcatraz is not merely a special case, no, we have to know why this map is important. Going onto what I was talking about the Spotlight of which Kevin's personalities undertake, and how a small minority of those personalities bring forward a shared agenda of becoming 'the beast'. Even though Samantha could be influencing the Zombies to kill, by taking the spotlight, unwittingly to her she could be perpetuating an undercurrent of something even grander than herself. They may unknowingly be involved in a shared agenda, but are all too blinded to realise. And Monty could as well be part of this. And by the end of the movie, Kevin corrupted by the voices and their agenda, shows us his penultimate form. "The Beast" What I am still curious about is in the Zombies Chronicles trailer we find the spirit in the form of Samantha finally set free. What is intriguing about that video is what the spirit is. It represents the cold blue haze of the Apothicons, and would immediately think that this is a the Shadowman escaping as her form. But the Shadowman himself surrounds himself with bright yellows and oranges -like in Shadows of Evil - but not the blue haze of the their Sun... This leaves me to think that this spirit in the video is something else. A key colour to this entity is in fact green, from the way it uses its manipulation throughout the trailer. This could be a mission for people to undertake. What else is the colour 'green' in Zombies? Zetsebou No Shima has significant uses of this colour (along with yellow). Why do you think? Another interesting thing to mention is the quest egg, it's called The Seed of Doubt. While in Der Reise, there was a message relaying to the Illuminati from Richthofen. He tells them "The seed has been planted". Cool Interesting! Thanks for getting this far.
  5. Maybe even...a hive mind of dni implants... I'm really bringing this post off topic, sorry OP.
  6. What kind of tale do you want?
  7. I don't know what you mean by this.
  8. Oh right I forgot to get back to you on this. I was saying that everything, from the beginning of World at War Zombies up until now, is probably just in the Aether/agartha/whatever you want to call it. I'm sure there's more to it, though I'm not disregarding everything that's happened in the games and comics. (Story wise) How do we move on from Black Ops III?
  9. Great read! My thoughts. It is hard to look at the story and make sense out of the time-loops, paradox's, its internal-bleeding, parallel universes and dimensions. All of this true of course, but Monty tells us the structure of events are not as they believed to be, the events unfolding only because they travel there in the first place. That thought invites a more '4th dimensional' view of time, because its as how Monty perceives our world. In truth those events could of already happened (singularly and not affecting neighboring dimensions,) it just takes a bit of intuition to align them [up] correctly. All this because 'time' is a complicated but vital to this story. It just makes me think we are over-complicating its structure. A simpler solution would be that by overloading the MTD we entered the Aether, and each time Ultimis traveled through each map we were opening holes, digging deeper into the fabric of it. Inevitably this created a paradox for some reason. Then after the events of Moon it picks up with the Tranzit characters. Then Maxis in turn opens up a vital organ into the aether. This is when Dimension-63 opens up... and so on, and so on. Apologies for the weird metaphor. Not only is this inconsistent, Abel! What about story before we entered the Aether through the MTD? Wouldn't that make that make the true origin (for example: Richthofen's back and forward plans with Eagles Nest, merely another part within the Aether as well? So in part, everything they've come to witness and discover in zombies is merely a projection of the Aether, a projection from Samantha and a projection from Monty. My question is... Was any of it real and why was it a lie?
  10. I meant to say that they could be 3rd dimensional beings in a 4th dimensional reality. I understand where you're coming from with your idea, I was thinking about yesterday as well, and it's that all three Edward grew up similarly in an orphanage and the words "Teddy is a Liar" were engraved in thier minds as children. We might even see certain things that transpired in previous games to mirror one another, play out similarly in the new universe. About aether. What if 'aether' only exists in his universe... ? Just a thought
  11. I actually just commented on a post talking about this exact thing... Weird... Anyway, check out my recent comment on this post. The theory somewhere in there.
  12. A better way to put it: are we human? If the diagram is suggesting that he is sending down things into this hyper-cube, like drops, Wallguns, everything basically. Wouldn't that mean that we are as physical as what's been thrown down to us? We are the fourth dimensional beings, and since the DG-2 overloaded the MTD in the original Der Reise, the fabric of space/time was shattered. The original reality, the meta-version of the one we already know in history, fell into darkness and lost forever in time. For some reason this event that caused reality shatter, would cause a restart in the system that is the universe. There was a particularity interesting Doctor Who episode that covered this concept, of reality hitting a 'restart', with Matt Smith. There was an event in the Doctors life where he had to finally die, and River Song had to be the one who did it, as this was 'written history'. River, could not let herself succumb to this event, so in turn she did not kill him. Space and time, not accustomed to this event not taking place, causes the their reality to flash before them and create an off-spring of the reality it was accustomed to dealing with. Not only did space/time have to account for everything in 'written history' is has to account for unpredictable, 'unwritten' history. Which if you are looking at a structure from beginning to end in this story, this off-spring reality would be the true Beginning of the Storyline, and after that would be the downward spiral. This would be the case because the off-spring reality created from the paradox that is the current 'Zombies Mode' [in its entirety] is a reset. Meaning, everything that you came to know and love from characters, gameplay and map design that came before the incident in Der Reise - for all intensive purposes - was merely a fabrication of what is truly going on in Monty's world. Although this is a reset, it is a lot more of a cut & paste of the reality. The new reality still carries the same traits as the first, as in physical remnants of the first world still torment them. For instance the Zombie apocalypse has not yet diminished, physical remnants like Giant Mechanical Men are scattered across the world and more. Humans that existed in the world before would not carry the same identify as they once did, going by different names and even different accents. The element of 'magic' in the first world could be lost too, the Staves for instance, relics of a time before. Everything that happened in Zombies would be unrecorded history. Monty, growing up to become a Scientist in this world and fascinated by this history, would then create a machine capable of looking through time from a fourth dimensional perspective. Wondering if he can penetrate this plane or even aspect of abyss, the KN-44 either accidentally fell in or thrown in intentionally, would be his first experiment. Just like the reaction Richthofen gave with his success of the walnut, the next step would be human trials. And that is my theory/speculation of how Monty became Godlike. At least to as much as we can perceive at this juncture. I find this helps me understand Monty's quotes more, even the silly ones. A quote comes to mind when he refers to the structure of time. That this is the end of beginning, but even more so the Beginning of the End. This is not talking about the cycle of maps leading up to the battle of Revelations and Primis. The off-spring reality he grew up in is fading. The system given to us from the space/time acts as a second chance, so we have some time to fix the problem. Obviously the Universe isn't a character, it is just acting as a type of Boot-mode to diagnose and uncover problems. Time from the original world, the Ultimis' travels, Victis' counter travels, and the travels which spawned from Primus are bleeding into the off-spring reality. As I said before, relics of the past that shouldn't be there are overloading the system of the universe. The system cannot sustain another soft-reset, and in this compulsion the universe would collapse in on itself, and create a hard-boot that wipes out the universe. Monty obviously doesn't want this to happen. With the quantum power he constructed to pierce through the fourth dimension, he creates his own universe. He certainly isn't concerned with the 'old world' and ever bringing it back into fruition. Neither is he with the world he grew up in, as it is probably in disarray - humanity reaching its extinction and the unpredictability of the universe that may wipe his world from existence. Now he has the power to become a god of his own universe and in his own universe. To quote him from one of his wisps in Gorod Krovi: "...The world within the world got turned upside down and inside out, if you can imagine such a thing. So anyway, uh, it was around then that I was forced to... step in." Mad world they live in, ay?
  13. Dimension 63, the apothicons, the keepers, primis, everything in Black Ops 3... Ah whatever mate I'm done with the idea. I admit defeat, and am not as knowledgeable of the story as you are, and I pale in comparison to you in terms of thinking, literacy and structure. I just hope you don't take any grudge on my comment I made of you earlier. "Lick me" This did not bode well for me later on, and even before that I wasn't being cooperative, so I apologize for being an arse.
  14. I don't know anything about that but their souls are captured first to do it.
  15. Still trying to make sense out of this Monty quote. At the orphanage, Edward told everyone his dad was a famous scientist. They scrolled "Teddy is a liar" on the schoolyard wall. We have three versions of Richthofen. Ultimis Richtofen, Primis Richtofen & 2210 Edward. Ultimately, Ultimis & Primis Richthofen are one of the same, even though they are parallel versions of themselves. So this leaves out 2210 Edward. If Monty is talking about him. he was an orphan in dimension-2210, but now Ultimis Richtofen came into the mix from the start, saying "Teddy is a liar"... The obvious answer would be that even if these characters are from different dimensions, they all share similar backstories. We knew what became of Ultimis & Primis Richtofen, but what will become of Edward from Dimension-2210? Isn't this what Treyarch like to do best, laying out the foundations first and start building on those foundations later on, even into the next game? They went hand in hand then, in Moon, but Samantha also made an effort to distinguish Edward from Teddy. E: “You cannot hide in there forever Edward” “Tell Edward to die” “I Hate Edward, he has lied to daddy since I was just a little girl” T: “You just gave Teddy more power” “First I’ll find Teddy, then Sophia” “Ohhh Ted, I'm coming for you” Again, like you said, they went hand in hand at the time. But Treyarch could use this. I understand that she is saying this because she genuinely thinks Teddy is Eddy, but she is a little girl with her delusions in the MPD. Why does she strongly believe that Teddy represents Eddy? Why does she play chess with it in one of her aether projections? You see, there is a massive gap here. Samantha was not with Richtofen during his childhood, however Samantha in Origins grew up with Edward from Dimension 2210... But still, how would the original Samantha know about Teddy? Because, I believe that as Edward from Dimension-2210 grew older, he could turn corrupt and evil. His next move could be to enter the Dark Aether, find his way to the original Samantha and enact chaos through her. But now I'm thinking, how would Samantha identify Edward from Dimension 2210 with Ultimis Richtofen? He's young, he old, so why is she still saying Teddy is a Liar? Edward could of told her, but where would be the fun in that? Instead, why not take the form of her favorite toy and connect with her through her love of Teddy? Then the toy speaks to her... says "I'm Eddy!"... Infuriated, it would be too late for her. He has taken the wheel of f**king chaos! (something like this at least) A precious gift given to her loved, then finding out that it was deceiving her all this time... “Something far more terrible than you lies here” I'd buy it

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