polabonez

That's because the streetlights in given locations are pre-set to play Maxis' audio file. The Bus Depot and Diner are the only areas where you can hear Maxis upon placing a Turbine near the streetlights. Anywhere else, and the system will not be complete for finishing the Easter Egg. Just thought I'd add my two cents: when I re-did the Easter Egg, I was playing as Misty and heard Maxis throughout the game. This isn't true about the only two points..... When I first heard this Maxis audio file (and I don't know who I was)... I was at the pylon next to the bridge. I'm 100% sure of it. And I know that the guy playing russman said he heard something (he wasnt sure what) from Maxis it at the town lamp post too... But aside from the EE you did.. I'm not saying you can't hear Maxis when doing that Tower of Babble.. What I'm saying is did he talk about the nodes? When you do the maxis side (which although I haven't completed I ahve done all the way up to we prematurely EMP'd the Electric zombie just ouside of the tower like idiots) you hear that part of it... but he never talks of the nodes... After you do that he just asks for more power and you put your turbines down.. .correct? The nodes can be done before killing the electric zombie, before setting two turbines down at the tower.. etc.

And these are just two theories both based on the tower definitely being a point. That may not be the case, but since every way seems to revolve around the tower... I'd assume you start there.

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/9667_142931035856021_963672700_n.jpg Another map that looks to be pretty much to scale. Please see my thread about Russman being the only one that was able to hear Maxis say these things in our game Monday after completing the tower of babble. If you guys are playing with this please take note of who you are playing this and whether or not you can hear them. If Russman is the only one that can hear this.. I'd say we are definitely on to something, probably another way to complete the tower of babble. It would also explain why it seems so few people take interest in this subject. I believe looking at the map I am posting, and the information you provided.. that the Obtuse Scalene would mean the TOWER, the CABIN, and the BRIDGE... or the DINER, the TOWER, and the TOWN. All others appear (if the map is to scale) that the lengths are very close to the same or form right triangles....

Thanks for that thread link... I can't believe I missed that one.. I was going to actually post this Tuesday and didn't have time.. so I didn't think to check the past two days... I will continue this conversation there.

IS HE Though??? Monday night he wasn't... I was standing right next to the lamp post in the cornfield setting my turbine down... and heard nothing. The guy playing Russman set his down at the diner (or the town I dont remember which particular one he was at then) and I was still at that same lamp post and he heard it and told me about it.. I heard nothing.

It might be a long type up .. I have a theory I really feel pretty good about... now that there are maps out there that I feel are pretty much to scale. but sure I'll send you my opinions on it.

Everybody CAN hear Maxis... He says turn the power off.. everyone hears it... But then he says "Continue what I have planned" or something.. and never gives any other instruction. Then you set the turbines at the pylon, he says bring power, etc. etc. Place your two turbines, and complete that TOB. What I'm saying is that I've heard him talk about the vertices before when placing a turbine at the LAMPPOSTS (not the tower) after turning the power off (but never paid attention who I was playing with) and when trying to recreate this I couldn't hear him. Only the guy playing Russman could... As far as I know there was no other intangible that would set it off why he could hear it and I couldn't... So what I'm saying, is maybe SOME Things only one of the players can hear for whatever reason, just like Samuel can only hear Richt. I'm going to play with it more myself, but I know some of you like to hunt, and I think this is a good lead to start.

So Monday night, I finally completed the tower of babble, Richt way. I have failed a few attempts at it both Richt and Maxis... and I want to talk about the Maxis way for a second. I am a firm believer there is still something to do on Tranzit (I know some of you aren't, and that's somewhat justified)... but I still believe it has to do with the Tratotamous? system, the obtuse scalene triangle, the vertices... I don't think that anyone has completely understood it yet. Every time I have talked with people I kind of get blank answers.. and then after the EE Monday something happened. So we just completed Richt's way.. rather early and rather painlessly.. So we decided we would turn the power off and do it Maxis way... Someone put a turbine down at the spire (also interesting, the guy playing Samuel said that Richt said something to him after completing the tower and doing this about a conspiracy, which I haven't seen before in any of the "ripped" audio files)... And I started to test my theory about setting the turbines down at the lampposts to listen to what they said about the vertices. So I set my turbine down at the diner.. and heard nothing this time.. By the bridge (where I first heard it a long time ago) and heard nothing... I had my friend that I was playing with and set his down, and heard nothing... So I just thought maybe since we had completed the Tower of Babble in that game it wouldn't activate those messages. Then, the guy who was putting Russman set his down at the diner, and he heard it. I was in the cornfield at the time and ran over to that teleporter to set mine down (and teleport) and heard nothing. The guy playing Russman then put his down in town, and heard him say something about the "two points"... Is it only Russman that can hear this part of Maxis? If so, I figure since Samuel is the only one that can hear Richt... maybe Russman has a certain thing only he can hear.. maybe this is another tower of babble way of doing... In fact maybe there are more than two ways.. maybe 4... maybe different lights all together... Can't play again to test it until Saturday, but I figured if any of you guys who still believe there is more to do want to further this or disprove it I'd put the information out here for you to run with. Hope it helps something -polabonez

So I got this done last night... And I just wanted to throw my two cents in. The reason, I think, why we failed so many times before (15 rounds of 115 without ever getting the "reduce the power by 4" quote) is because the guy who could hear Richtofen (Samuel) wasn't under the tower with us... He was the worst of the 4 so the two of us went under the tower to do it.. and it obviously never worked. Last night, a different guy was Samuel. He was waiting under the tower with a train of zombies, decided to kill them before attempting heating up the obleisk, and blew the whole thing (Richt said that he was supposed to heat the tower firsT). The lights were all flashing to the EE had started, but we couldn't reheat it up (tried about 5 more times after having to chase around jet gun parts). I should also mention that we had already taken out a lot of cash to get EMPs before this step (not reccommended). We did it again right after, though, having the guy who was Samuel go get the jet gun, heat it up in about round 3. and By round 5 we got the "Reduce the power by 4". We all got EMPs (very quickly this time)... threw them at the lights unsucessfully about three times (because the guy in town kept throwing it into the lava)... he said they must all be simultaneous... and then Successfully did it and completed RICHT side of Tower of Babble. Now... AFTER We completed it.. I found something very interesting that I hope to explore more tonight.. but I hope this helps the OP who had the same problems I had before.

Jimmy's Tweet Friday shows the Nuketown zombies Easter egg was found... when the clock is at 1, and the population is 15... Getting a power up (115) plays an EE Song... Looking at his other tweet: it may be points, or what ever you call them. Wait appropriate amount of time, then continue to work. Has anyone tried having 115,000 on the dot and waiting to see if something happens? Should be an easy test with those who have the money in the bank.. could pull it out at round 1 and just run around a bit. Just a thought. I would do it myself tonight, but not sure I have that much in there after my last couple unsucessful TOB attempts.

Just noticed the guy before you said he runs trains with a raygun underneath it by himself... I'm not sure what is right.

Then I assume this is where I went wrong. Maybe the OP did too... I think I used the guide from this site and it didn't mention this, so I never thought of it... Just thought it would be safer to have a couple under there...

PS I DID have the NAV table built...

Same happened to me... Twice. First time under the pylon with galvaknuckles and went until round 15. Thought maybe we missed hearing him (since someone activated the song from the teddy bears) so EMPd the lights and got "went out of order" Then was told on a forum I needed explosives, did the same thing until round 15 with RAYGUN, and the pistol PAP'd... nothing.. and this time we listened closely. Nothin. Was told NOW that need to corral the zombies under there rather than killing 1 at a time (didn't know that) which we did both times and also heard that EVERYONE had to be under the pylon for this to work (we had two at pylon and one at diner and one at tunnel both times) and that a killed zombie outside the pylon RESETS the EE. I have no idea if the above is true, it's just what I read on a forum somewhere trying to figure out what went wrong. If you want to try again tonight, I'm game on XBL. PM me. (I know this isn't teammate finder but I was just trying to save the time as I was offering help to his response)

I agree with dankburgler... Not as much to go around saying everyone is an idiot, but I don't think it has anything to do with points (whether Microsoft or not)... And I'm kind of shocked (especially on this board which is generally full of completely off the wall conspiracy theories) that everyone else is going with that... He responded to a tweet in which he was asked to give a riddle... Of all of the tweets he gets about the EE To respond to he responds... in what I assume is riddle... and everyone takes it bluntly.

Doesn't sound right... Too direct for Jimmy Z IMO. Maybe the points isn't the money or the normal "points". Maybe it's the points aka vertices... Triangle system........ and wait for more voices?

Thanks for the replies. Just a couple of things.. one - on the Rict side... I had two of us under there (after we heard you needed exploses) with Mustang Sallys and PAP'd Ray guns. Killed zombies up until round 14 (probably 200 kills) and he didn't say anything about having enough. I heard after that all 4 needed to be under there (or possibly all 4 needed explosives because any knife or non explosive kill will reset the count maybe). So I'm not sure if you have done it the other way but it most definitely did not work for me.... We even thought maybe he said it and it just didn't come through so we EMP'd the lamps and he said it was the wrong order... But BESIDES All of that (because that wasn't what I meant to get at): I guess I just don't understand why we think that the order is correct of putting the turbines down at the tower. I understand what he says when you do it... However if you put a turbine down at one of the street lamps first he asks you to complete the vertices... I just have the feeling that everyone is doing it the same wrong way because it makes no sense why the tower should be the next step to me.... I guess, from a programmers standpoing who has made a few flash games (mostly escape the room puzzle games, where certain things have to be done in order to get to different parts of the room) I could see from my past mistakes how certain things could be unlocked even though I didn't mean for them to in that order... However if there is a correct order and everyone is doing it the wrong way it would make sense why nothing else is getting figured out. For the most part I think I got my answer. If I didn't miss anything and he actually doesn't lead us to the tower than I'm going to test the pylon theories first... creating the angles first, prior to powering up the tower... Because in his quotes, it makes more sense to put the pylons down first and then "Connect the system" which from what I mapped out... looks to me like their are only about two possibilities (I'm thinking the CABIN Light post, the DINER, and the PYLON), which of course is what leads me to the next step where he talks about needing more power. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.. as I don't want to go down the same path as everyone else, or I'm sure if there was something we were missing someone would have found it AFTER the EE.. I just think maybe it's Pre-EE where something could be done wrong.

Hi guys... I don't mean to beat a dead horse but I've read pretty much every thread on this on this website and I can't find an answer to what I'm looking for. Whether one believes the EE is complete until the next DLC or not... I for one don't, but I admit it's probably just wishful thinking... So I'm not asking anyone to try anything or going to say I have the answers.. because I don't. I do however have a few guys that share my thoughts and we want to keep experimenting with this. So I have been unsuccessful in the TOB about 5 times now. Rict side because after 15 rounds of killing zombies under the pylon I never got enough 110 (From everything I have read because I didn't use explosive weapons once, and the other time because two of my teammates were killing zombies at the diner while two of us were under the tower which apparently is a no-no that wasn't outlined to me). Maxis last night because I think I EMP'd the electric zombie when he wasn't directly under the tower (jumped the gun when I heard "Kill him now". Anyways I am not asking for help with the TOB... but I guess I just don't understand exactly WHY I am doing what I am doing as I do it... I have read the guide on this site as well as seen the videos.... But I am confused as to WHY the next step after turning off the power is to put too turbines down at the spire. I didn't hear anything from Maxis telling me to do this... Maybe I just didn't hear it but I was paying pretty good attention last night. The only reason I ask is because after turning EDIT: [off] the power as asked, I put a turbine down at the bridge and heard him talk about the first point.. etc. etc... (I know it's not new news) and this was before I put anything down at the pylon. I have a grip on the TOB from the guides posted (which appears to be the same guide posted 1000 times acrossed the internet) and I can't help but think I'm doing things in the incorrect order. So I guess what I'm asking is... WHY is the next step the turbines at the pylon.. does he say something?... Or could it just be that the achievement was unlocked at this stage for someone and got blasted on the net to do it this way. I can only imagine after everything that everyone on this forum (and others) has tried that the only possible way I could find something out that hasn't been found is if the underlying direction everyone has been going may be somehow incorrect.... The scalene, obtuse, triangle topics fascinate me as I don't think anyone truly understands this and I want to experiment with this... but I think this might have to come prior to the spire? Just for the simple reason that I naturally put the turbine down at the teleporter prior to the spire and that was the first I again "heard the voices" . I'm sure most were supposed to do this since Treyarch leads you to the teleporters by the earlier achievement they give you on teleporting... anyways sorry for the long post but other than that it unlocks the achievement is there a reason that the turbines at the spire are the next set of voices that I am supposed to be listening too?

I just realized they cost $250. Still... They suck.

I rarely ever use them... but decided to buy them last night just to play around with them.... It was round 17 or so and I was sticking Semtex to zombies heads and they didn't even lose a limb. For the price of $1,000 I assume they have to have some purpose... I mean Claymore's take out whole hords and we know what role EMP's have in the game... Semtex seems almost useless to me unless they would have something to do with the EE or some other function I just don't know about in Zombies. The guy I was playing with last night said that if you throw them on the ground all the Zombies will run to it like the Monkeys... but that didn't happen...

I'll delete it... Where should I put it?

So... I'm new to the site. But I've been reading three forums regarding the EE and actually just to figure out how to do it on my own... which my friends and I plan on attempting tonight. All of the chatter about the EE continuing on (but no one knowing how to do it, what to do with the NAV cards) of course has me intrigued like most of you.... So I am wondering if all of the walkthroughs are correct to start? I mean, if everyone is just reading the walkthrough that someone unlocked the achievement with (which I don't even understand how that was figured out by the voices) was incorrect then maybe everyone is trying to figure out something incorrectly from the start. So on to my thought, which may have already been tested... When someone has to "Decrease the power by 4" and someone threw 4 EMP grenades at towers.. I kind of get it.. but this is done with the power on right? Has anyone ever tried putting 4 turbines down at the transporters and turning the power off? The only reason I thought that is I never noticed the guy telling me to turn the power off (maybe because I just have never been him) until after we did it from reading the guides so it only made sense to me that if you followed the original voices that I have heard first... that would result in turning the power off (by 4 if the Turbines are up somewhere) and that would continue on the achievement with the guy who begins after the power is turned off. The tweet saying "which order did you do it in" by one of the game developers is what got my brain running. Sorry for the long 2nd post.

So I wouldn't consider myself a conspiracy theorist. I had never signed up to this board but now maybe just reading it for the past couple of weeks has made me one..... Interesting about the ON 4 U thing... I was playing last night.. half buzzed I'll admit... But I was waiting at Power for a zombie to spawn so I had enough cash to open the door.. and started looking around. All of the crates outside of power had the exact same phrase on them, except one that was on the ground... it was the only one that had something different written on it.. and like I said I was drinking, but for some reason when reading this I remember it saying something about "4U". I'm not online now but maybe someone could look into it... or maybe someone already has. But if no one noticed there is definitely one crate (That is the same as all others) with a different inscription.