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In this thread is something explained about Denizens. You really should read it, not only about Denizens but also about Agartha. And I also always wondered why something as simple as green light can let to Agartha. Now I dont actually think these portals lead to Agartha, but they look the same as other Agarthan portals, so they could be made by creatures from Agartha.

And the Keepers, arent they Vrill ya? They wear the Vrill symbol (the Black Sun or something) and they appear in a Vrill device: The Austrian pyramid (if that is a MPD). However, it is indeed still not sure if they actually are it. Personally, I think they are part of the Vrill Ya, no high rank/power, but more some sort of soldier. I would like it to hear why you think they arent

15 hours ago, Nightmare Voyager said:

Denizens are actually experiments done by the Americans though? and Keepers and Margwa are different things all together, just like Nova Crawlers, Panzer Soldats and the Avogadro are.

I thought Denizens are creatures from Agartha. They dig the same hole/portal like the one in Origins where Agarthan zombies jump out when you activate a generator. The word "denizen" itself means in the legend of Agartha (not the zombie story, but the real mythology) "resident of Agartha", so I think they are some sort of creatures guarding the caves to Agartha. The Keepers are the Vrill Ya, and both you and I know Margwas arent failed experiments.

On the other side of enemies, we have the failed experiments: Zombies "killed" with Nova gas become Nova6 crawlers, a person wearing the Panzer Suit becomes infected and dies, turns into the Panzer Soldat. And about the Avogadro I am not sure but I think it is a failed experiment combining 115 with electricity.

Anyway, I hope the Nova6-crawlers or Jumping Jacks return in DLC2, they are creepy as hell, and I hope it will be a creepy map.

It is clear that our upcoming enemies will be (115-)experiments. So not things like Denizens, Keepers, Margwas and such Vrill Ya stuff, but more something like Nova6-crawlers, Panzer soldats and the Avogadro. The idea of infected plants I havent thought of, and is actually possible because of the maps location: A jungle.

Are we allowed to vote for the new UotM?

“Ever since the second outbreak at Nacht der Untoten, troops have been noticing strange radio transmissions and broadcasts taking place in the dead of the night” 
This quote was said by the Mysterious Radio Transmissions Intelligence on Treyarch’s official site (2009). Now this gives me many questions, but the most important: Were there two outbreaks at Nacht der Untoten? We actually played two different ones: In World at War and in Black Ops. What if the outbreak in WaW was the first one, the place were zombies were tested by the Germans. We all think the American soldiers are crashed there and try to escape, but maybe they were captured by the Germans, who wanted to test their newest weapon, the zombies, on the soldiers. After the dead of the Americans, the Germans stopped the zombies, knowing how powerfull they were, and the Nacht der Untoten test site was safe again. In the Kino loading screen you see the loading screen of Nacht and Verrückt  (and the menu picture of SNN and the teleporter of DR), meaning this is after these maps. Now, the NDU loading screen in Black Ops looks very different. I still dont understand it, what happens and who is that person (Vrill Ya? Looks like he has control over space-time so maybe.), but it is definately different. Could this mean that this map takes after the events of Kino place, instead of like the WaW one, before. That the O4 are teleported to here and Samantha sents zombies to them, this leading to the “Second outbreak of Nacht der Untoten”? Could this mean that Verrückt, which also has another loading screen in BO, and in which you also play as the O4 in BO, also is a second outbreak? I think these maps are more then only a copy of the Original WaW maps, they have something to do with the story.
 

After you activate the power, the windows change, right? Further, great post

Great work, I dont believe anyone previous made something like this for DOA or DOA2. One thing: You forgot the Cosmic Silverback. I believe he is the main character, althought I dont understand the intro

6 minutes ago, Steelie said:

What if there's gonna be zombie spiders instead of Hellhounds this map? The description does mention that the island was used to "create horrors beyond belief"...

Or the return Nova6-Crawlers, I would love that. Something creepy and crawly anyway

34 minutes ago, Steelie said:

There seems to be a lot more comradery between the four than before. Not that they seem like really close friends now, but they're definitely more close than they were before.

I thought the same. At the end of DE everybody is angry at Richthofen, and now they fight shoulder to shoulder and Takeo even grabs the Summoring key, knowing Richthofen will use it to kill him from that universe. Maybe they know Richthofens plan and see he's a good guy.

Any Japanese between us who can translate what the Japanese soldiers say?

DLC2: Eclipse. Eclipse.....eclipse.....wasn't there a eclipse in Shangri La? I think the name has something to do with the map, just like DLC1 was called Awakening (we had to awaken and kill Dempsey).

SPOILERS ALERT

Why do Nikolai, Takeo and Tank help Richthofen? At the end of DE he betrayed them, right? Did Richthofen explain them why he kills the test subjects and they found this a good reason?

18 hours ago, Nightmare Voyager said:

So Takeo looks like he is actually the Captain on what I assume to be a boat (Weird, I thought he was a military captain but maybe he is a naval officer?)

Why do you think its Takeo? The old Takeo had more such cap like the other Japanese soldiers have, instead of a officers cap. Maybe its the leader of Division 9

13 minutes ago, JJMFP said:

This just might be the map to pull me back from The Division.  I need something NEW!

Youve been in the Dark Zone?

1 hour ago, Steelie said:

That could very well be true! And maybe it could be that the Vril-Ya thought they would be in danger from the humans and felt threatened, and that that the reason is they decided to destroy the Earth? I mean humans have entered the Crazy Place already, and it'd only be a matter of time for them to find a way into Agartha then as well. I can imagine the Vril-Ya wouldn't be so happy with a bunch of greedy humans invading their home. But I believe that there's also something of Origins? I believe it was something like the main four appearing in front of the people from the excavation site in Origins, warning them to stop digging or something or bad things would happen: http://prntscr.com/am2wmo This is a picture of what I'm talking about. What if the main four are actually (or least descendants of) the Vril-Ya? And they warned the humans because they expected them not to listen, setting their plans in motion?

Thats a very interesting idea, however it sounds weird if the O4 arent human but Vrill Ya. In that picture you linked they dont wear their uniforms but some sort of Ancient (Vrill?) clothes. Maybe they will in or after the last DLC travel to Agartha, where something strange happens (turn into Vrill Ya?) and after that they go to Medieval France, the time when the first humans discovered the Crazy Place, and the O4 warned them. The knights didnt went further and made that image as a warning. Around 900 years later, Germans occupied the North of France and started investigate and explore the Crazy Place, gateway to Agartha. They saw the warning but didnt took it seriously, and you know what happens next. An infinitive loop/paradox: "Primis will fail"

6 minutes ago, Steelie said:

Indeed! It would be weird to make something and then not to use it. Maybe they're planning something really, really big.

I thought the same. First it seems impossible for them to predict everything what happened in the Nacht-Buried universe. They couldnt predict Richthofen would betray Maxis and trap him and his doughter in the MPD. But then I remembered that there is a possibility that Richthofen did this in order of the Illuminatti, where he was a member of. Now, could it be that the Vrill Ya are in the Illuminatti too and that they ordered Richthofen to teleport Maxis and Samantha away, thus leading to all the events of WaW/BO1/BO2 and maybe also SoE? I dont know why, because it ended after Buried in Earth's distruction. Althought, we assume that. Maybe the Earth didnt distruct after Maxis or Richthofens control over the world. Maybe it was all prepared by the Vrill Ya and something happens after Buried, something unimaginable for us, and the young Richthofen from Origins tries to stop them.

25 minutes ago, Steelie said:

If it actually is them controlling the zombies that'd be so cool! And it also gives something to think about, like why would the Vril-Ya want control of the zombies? Maybe to guard the Crazy Place, making sure no one got in?

Remember the MPD, the device with you can control the zombies, is made by the Vrill Ya. Why? They dont use it.....or do they?

I think its very kind of Activision to not forget the players on the old consoles. Thank you

I took a look at a video of round 1, and the zombies have just blue eyes. I agree, a bit lighter then later, and it looks even sometimes a bit white or yellow, but its still blue. I think this may be because the animation of the walkers (in early rounds) is different then the animation of the runners (in later rounds). Due to this, the light in their eyes may be different a bit.

White/purple eyed zombies are Agarthan zombies, and the Vrill Ya are the residents of Agartha, so thats a possibility

3 minutes ago, Koslans said:

I never got into this discussion....

However, when you play Die Rise, The Great Leap Forward, the color of the eyes changes from yellow in the low rounds to blue in the mid-rounds. They might even become red if you get in a high round? (I'm not good and certainly no high-round zombies player)

Yellow eyes in Die Rise? You probably mean Nuketown Zombies. From round 1-25, the eye colours are yellow. After round 25, the eye colours are blue. This is because Nuketown is at the same time as Moon (you can hear Moon quotes while playing Nuketown). Samantha(yellow) is in the MPD till Richthofen(blue) replaces her (round 25 in Nuketown).

Its interesting thinking of beside Richthofen and Maxis/Samantha there is a third Demonic power fighting for power in the MPD. Could there be a posibility of the Keepers being that third thing? Or are the Keepers only the inventors, the makers and the guardians of the Vrill device?

One thing: The Origins Samantha, isnt she the Samantha from the Nacht-Buried universe who after kicked out of the MPD by Richthofen, immediately captured by the Ancient Gods and "prisonned" in Agartha in the Origins universe? Further great theory

I dont know it too, and I think no one knows for sure. Its strange, a Keeper came out of the Der Eisendrache MPD, but after he left it, nothing strange happened. No eye colour changes, no other thing replacing its place in it, and no other crazy events. I am not even sure if it is a MPD, and if it is the only one in that universe, and if it is just as powerfull as the one on Moon. If the eye colours in the next map is the same, and if that map is in the same universe, I think there are multiple MPD's in that universe, or that the DE pyramid isnt a MPD (or at least both such powerfull one as on Moon). Its only a matter of time and we know some more things about the mysterious controller.

I didnt buy BO3. I still play WaW, BO1 and BO2 almost every day. Currently is BO1 the most played game for me :)

Welcome to the site. So youre playing zombies for a while now? Thats good to hear. See ya in the forums