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I sure hope it does. :l

Honestly I think the next game will be much better. Hopefully they realize the mistake in black ops 2. Sure the maps were great and had so many new things introduced. But the story was whacked, for lack of a better word.

3) How exactly do you explain how Sam knew about some of the weapons in black ops 2? It seems as if her and Eddy are in the WW2 era or sometime near then. Many of the blops 2 weapons didn't exist back then.

Tell me this, if the cutscene in Origins is from the WaW era, where did the camera come from that Samantha knocks over? She wouldn't have one so this must be closer to our timeline than you think.

The simple fact of the matter is this and it's a simple fact. We have no answers and we can only speculate. Until Treyarch say otherwise, the story continues - it has not had closure, no matter what you read into it, it doesn't.

Now take this from a normal story being told, the O4 scorch the earth with the rockets. At the end of Origins we hear Samantha say "my dad has a plan". What does this mean in a story mode (forget about zombies, I ain't talking zombies here, I'm talking normal stories). Each chapter leads into the next chapter, it gives you a cliffhanger that makes you want to read the next chapter, or watch the next scene in a movie/play.

Some people will not like what they see and stop reading / listening / watching after a certain chapter or scene. Which is fine, it's their choice, however, a story still needs to be told and it will continue. The simple fact is this, the story has not ended - you do not end a story with say "my dad has a plan" what you do is you end a chapter by saying this, which makes you want to get the next book, watch the next movie etc.

Treyarch are smart, they know they lost a lot of folk from WaW and BO in BOII, they know they need to start to pull things together and they will. They will have been reading what has been said for the past year and a bit and taken the feedback on-board. It will all be bullet pointed on several whiteboards within the zombie teams offices at Treyarch. They know what the community are thinking, they know what the general consensus within the community is.

Now, what I perceive will happen in the next game release on current gen consoles and PC is reworked maps for WaW, BO, BOII and will be released with the game on a special zombies disc or they will release these maps alongside the 1st DLC that is released. I also think that instead of having 1 year cycle of support and updates, that we will see a period of 2 years of support and updates and that DLC will be focused on the 1st year for the season pass but we may start to see special DLC releases within the 2nd year.

So what do I see happening with the story? I have no idea, but I'm just as eager to find out about it as the rest of you but rest assured it has not ended "yet".

Although I don't think the story is over. You said they wouldn't end the story with "my dad has a plan". Well they didn't. They eded it with the O4 under a bright light. The "my dad has a plan" could be seen as the "start" of the new story.

I'm just saying this to reassure that anything is possible. However, I still believe that the original story is NOT over.

:O *shocked*

-.- Lol

Yeah. Deadshot is probably the second most useless perk. The first being double top 1.0. It's time for an upgrade! :D

Ok, lets all just drop the C4 idea for a minute. We don't need this to be a lot like MP. Lets open our minds to think of other lethals. For example, we could have throwable electric bombs (much like Quiz-nades). I would also like to point out that we havent seen anything close to a placeable turret or sentry gun in the game, that would be cool. Maybe Treyach could make a throwable mini-sentry

A throwing electric bomb unlike multiplayer? Ahem....shock charge. Lol. And yeah the turret is in Tranzit.

I like the idea of different ammo types. If the gun were to receive different ammo upon PaP, it could be incendiary. Or why not make it like extreme bullet ricochet where the bullets bounce from the walls and zombies (Either of those might be a worthwhile perk)

I love that idea. The ricochet bullets thing. It would add an all new experience in killing. Double Tap 3.0 anyone?

It's not a definite answer but it seems to make the most sense.

It isn't debatable if you make an accurate definition. By yours, the Jet Gun, M2 Flamethrower, Ballstic Knife, and Crossbow Explosive-Tip are Wonder Weapons. Which is of course ridiculous.

Although I'm on your side in this thread, I still disagree with you. This is definitely a debatable topic. Saying it's not is simply having a dogmatic attitude toward other people's ideas. Completely unacceptable.

Anyways, yeah, the jet gun is just a hunk of junk created by survivors. I mean a jet engine might as well have fallen off of a plane in the sky, and landed in Town. Does that still mean it's a wonder weapon? From my understanding, no.

Now that I'd like to see. But if they do, they'll just screw up the storyline again just like origins. :(

Great post Naitrax.

I've come up with something of a theory on Tranzit. I find it possible that we're going to see a returned Tranzit, only next time it won't be so run down. Like maybe Tranzit could be the possible home of Samantha(despite being German) and that end cutscene in origins could very well be in Tranzit.(though idk how much sense that would make) but I think it would be really interesting.

Anyone remember the Ambush Round where the bus would break down and dogs would attack. If they would of kept that I would be so happy.

Waaaa????

" That's right sammy… I know you're secretly a fish… DON'T ACT CONFUSED! You KNOW….

Was that supposed to be Richtofen...or Samuel? XD

Okay. But @Stronghold

I like your thinking. It would make sense that 2011 would be the date of CotD. I mean it's the only map that contains real world people using their real world names. Wouldn't it make sense that it should be in real world time? Makes sense to me.

The way i see it is monkeys have been around since the classic maps. So why not include them where it supposedly "all began"?

And of course origins does have more weapons in the map than any map prior. I think that deserves some attention.

^ that one quote "I know what you really are Samantha" always interests me. What could that possibly mean?

I would love to see white colored eyes. But as mocking said, it would be lame. BUT that's why they should be shining white. Like someone stuck flashlights in their eyes. ;)

With the whole time displacement thing, we really can't say anything for sure.

Unfortunately, as long as time travel and the like exist in zombies, the storyline will be full of theories. :/

I don't recall ever seeing evidence of black ops 2 dates or CotD dates. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I've never seen any evidence.

That, and some may prefer the monkeys because you get 3. Whereas you only get 2 beacons. And once you get the hells retriever there isn't a way to lose it. (Unless you bleed out if I remember correctly)

Just using a little quick revive I guess.

"Here's three games chocked full of maps. Enjoy as you unravel the in depth story! Now here's season four. The first three games were just a joke guys, but now we get to the real stuff! Sorry for wasting 6 years of your time! Buy our game!"

I think initially Treyarch wanted moon / nuketown be in the 60s but with the scenario Bo2 happens in 2025 they had to change plan

When is 2025 ever referenced in zombies?

^its not that they're more likely to rage quit. It's just if one rage quits, then you'll be down two players instead of one.

So the timeline diverged sometime after the monkey bomb was created- there is a huge hole in your logic

Do we really know when exactly the monkey bomb was created?