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Yeah, it would be fun! I would probably use a couple of the SNN radios, the 'last' Der Riese radio, the intro to Kino, and some of Gersche's quotes from Ascension. Probably more of a pre-Richtofen's Grand Scheme for those four, though. It'll be on my channel if and when.

I thought about it, but these cinematic trailers are as new as MotD, so though I would have wanted to, I'm not sure. I may make one for SNN, De Riese, Ascension and Kino as a sort of 'outbreak' feature, similar to a 'map pack' style trailer, but it wouldn't be as poignant as this one. We'll see what happens in the future, though. 

@Matuzz @PINNAZ Thanks, y'all! And well played, Pinnaz. Hahaha!

Yep, stayed up 'till 4 in the morning at my brother-in-law's, woke up at 8, drove into town, sat outside GameStop for about ten minutes, went home, and went back at 9:30. 

Why so early? 

I guess I overestimated the hype here where I am. I live in a midsize to smaller town, and I was the only one at the door. Doors opened, I put down $35, and walked out as three more guys walked in. 

My wife was amazing about it. Not even a zombies fan, and it's even robbed her of me some times! But she kept saying if she had a job, she would have snuck out and bought it for me. She's awesome. Be jealous. Haha!

This is evil. I mean...wow. This is evil. 

@Rad @Rissole25 Thanks, fellas! 

Based on my impression of Richtofen's demeanor...I decided to buckle down and try a remix, presented from the perspective of what may have been Richtofen's final thoughts, suppored by Avenged Sevenfold's 'Nightmare,' featured in 'Moon,' a song I have always felt is appropro for Richtofen.

The Giant "Whispers" Teaser Trailer 

 

LMAO! WTH??? @Stop mocking me0 @Nightmare Voyager

Regardless, due to his betraying them at Der Riese she has invariably re-entered the MPD again, unless they took other precautions before coming back here. 

It is completely possible for Samantha to already be in the teleporter, as when Richtofen activated it, she went to Griffin Station. 

And it should still be the German Samantha, as it was in the radio. 

So, I'm finally sitting down and putting some thoughts on paper!

The question now echoes from the haunted halls and stairwells of Alcatraz Prison, on across the Nazi Zombies universe:

"Where are we going from here? Do we let go of all we know?"

What we just saw was one of the most mindblowing developments in the Zombies storyline. 

Young Dempsey, Nikolai, and Takeo have broken into Der Riese and confronted Edward Richtofen immediately following his betrayal of Dr. Ludvig Maxis. Despite their warnings, Richtofen re-opens the teleporter, revealing his younger self, apparently filling him with joy and awe.

However, the look on his face moments before his younger self summarily executes him, is the look of one who knows more than he is saying, and willingly submits himself to a fate that he knows is necessary and inevitable.

Or is he just naively unaware of the hatred in his younger self's eyes, and the weapon in his hand, expecting a reward?

Whatever the case may be, as he is now dead, he will obviously no longer be so predisposed to complete his Grand Scheme. Yet, as is indicated by the color of the zombies' eyes, and the fact that Maxis and Samantha are once again gone, Samantha has now found herself at Griffin Station and has taken over the MPD. How Young Richtofen plans to deal with that now, is yet to be seen. I would not be surprised if we get another opportunity to visit Griffin Station, ourselves. 

And as far as where the NO4 have come from, could it be that they themselves have come from the Agarthan teleporter in Origins via the MPD? Bear in mind Richtofen's statement at its unveiling on the Moon:

"Nein, I know what it does! It is a direct connection to another dimension"

Granted, the devices at Der Riese are teleporters, but have never (correct me if I'm wrong) been a portal to Agartha, merely a passageway through the Aether to another location or place in time. 

The MPD, on the other hand, has long been known as a portal. Therefore, having come from Agartha, (assuming the cavern in Origins is...which is debatable), they could have come out through the open and powered MPD, and taken the teleporter at Griffin Station back to Der Riese, to where, presumably, it had been linked previous to America reverse-engineering and redirecting it to Area 51.

In other notes, Takeo points out that the "test subjects" (their older selves) must be awakened. Yet another conflict, as previously, they had been awakened by Old Richtofen to begin his conquest. I do not, however, believe that there are alternate or cyclical timelines here. It has cyclical properties, but has not actually been repeated multiple times.

Also, though we have no idea how Richtofen got his hands on the vials of blood labeled with the Alcatraz prisoner's numbers, he did appear to kneel down and take a blood sample from the body of the older Richtofen  

So anyway, just wanted to throw those thoughts out there, particularly that Samantha is now once again in control. 

AWESOME!

 

I don't have a frame-by-frame, so it's blurry, but this is the best I could get.

Just want to throw this out there: is it not true that the tests being run on Nikolai (Russian Test Subject), Takeo (Subject N3WB), the Mexican, and Dempsey (the American Spy from Verruckt) were experiments sanctioned by Group 935?

Which makes sense that:

-Richtofen begins tests on N3WB, the Russian test subject, and the Mexican
-He grows disgruntled towards Maxis as the WwDG2 is not being mass produced (note: due to a lack of funding)
-The Mexican is killed during Richtofen's experiment to determine whether the blood/brain barrier protecting the brain from the psychological effects of 115 was in the spleen.
-The "American Spy" is delivered from Verruckt to Der Riese, where Richtofen proceeds with and succeeds in his testing.

-After Samantha overtakes the MPD, Richtofen returns to Der Riese from the ever so mysterious "Eagle's Nest" to commence "Operation Shield."
-Richtofen betrays Maxis and Samantha
-He receives word from Griffin Station that is has been overtaken by Samantha and overrun with undead.
-He wakes the "test subjects" and begins his quest of conquest against Samantha and the MPD

OR...

-Richtofen betrays Maxis and Samantha
-The NO4 arrive, and execute Old Richtofen.
-Either to get intel from them, save their lives, or execute a plan before eliminating them, the NO4 wake the test subjects...

 

So I guess this isn't considered a "leak" at this point? At any rate, holy mackerel, I'm obsessed. I haven't a doubt this will be the greatest map we've seen to date.

Couple questions, though: 

Why awaken the "test subjects?"

And where did the NO3 of 4 come from? The mainframe? The other teleporters? There are four, after all, including the mainframe. But from where? Agartha? The End of Origins? If only it weren't for that screwed up cutscene, it would make so much more sense! LOL!

A good man is hard to find. Though I missed your heyday, @Ehjookayted I'm sure I will encounter your legacy. Thank you for all you have contributed to the community. 

I certainly wish I could. I don't even have XBOne yet...I'm feeling about as helpless as one can feel over here, digging around in my couch cushions crying and sniveling like only a Zombies addict can do, hoping the previous owner dropped a quarter or six hundred down there. LOL! 

 

 

 

 

Figgered I'd say hello! I'm new around here, but welcome back, I guess! Looking forward to hearing from you out there!  

@Stop mocking me0 the moon was bombed recently...not sure how the impact compared to a nuclear weapon-prolly minute; but the point was, the impact from the bomb was apparently invisible to to unprofessional eye. So I'm thinking a moon nuke wouldn't affect gravity, etc.

 

@Nightmare Voyager

Haha, yes, according to the info we have, the MPD is extremely resiliant; but I don't think anyone's ever tried to nuke it. It would be the only option, I figger. It's gotta be destructible somehow. It's made of matter, therefore, is separable. How is yet to be seen. 

So...why wouldn't you nuke the moon if zombies are under its influence...?

I'll leave it at that. 

If you're still looking, LMK, I'd be happy to. I believe I'm pretty well informed on the secrets of Der Riese (but then again many are...heheh) and rather familiar with Shangri-La.

I can't say that I like the Hell idea, but I like your thinking, and am 100% with you in hoping they stick with the story we know and love. Keep up the theorizing!!!

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​I cannot say how psyched I was when he tweeted that. I'm positive you're right, buddy. BRING IT, TREYARCH!

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​I cannot say how psyched I was when he tweeted that. I'm positive you're right, buddy. BRING IT, TREYARCH!

​Beautiful site. Thank you!

But whether what we think we know about Demsey, Takeo and Nikolai is true or not is still up in the air. The three are brainwashed and blindly follow a psychopath...which, personally, I find, made for a better story. I am very bummed about BO2, but the story that began at Der Riese (including Shi No Numa and Verrückt) was timeless, all the way to Moon. How I wish they would carry that on and find a way to eject Richtofen...etc. who knows where it could go? I mean, despite their questionable histories or motives, who doesn't like the ragtag gang of dirtbags so set on their own agenda that they don't even seem to be much aware of the rest of the world?

The overdramatic personas of the characters changed the whole feel. Personally (to each his own) I prefer the silliness over the drama. The story is the drama; the characters give it variety. Maxis has always been serious, as have the other scientists, giving it a dramatic feel, while the experiments (the three minions) and Richtofen are suffering mental distortion and/or damage, thus, the silliness and instabiliy of those particular four. 

 

On on the other hand, while I believe BO2 had its place in the story, though disappointing, I feel like it took enough of an independent route to allow us to return to the original narrative. 

Great stuff. Cannot express my excitement and appreciation for how apparently diligently Treyarch has used the last three years. I haven't a doubt that what they have created is worth the wait!!!! 

Haha, we virtually started playing this game in February. Half the fun is just being a fan. Big thanks, should they see this!