FatedTitan

I believe it's Amy Lee.

Good points, but I don't believe Sam is referring to the Vril-ya. I can understand it possibly being Satan or something like him, but not Vril-ya.

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It's triggered by looking at Buddha. It's a hint in character dialogue for Easter Egg.

While I see you did your research and worked hard on this, I would not argee with you. Maxis isnt nessicary an evil person. If there one thing he is then it is being blinded by revenege. He never wanted to create the undead for an army, but that was the Reichstang High Command. I am not saying maxis's intentions are better then richtofens, just saying he is so obsessed with richtofen's demise to a point where he will wipe out the human race. Of course i hope he realizes soon what he is doing.

Richtofen is similar to maxis in the fact they didnt want to do this. Richtofen has been a pawn of someone of someone something far more awful then anything else(whenever it be the vril-ya,the voices,illumati,hell even aliens and satan). When sam said that something far more terrible lied beyond the mpd she wasnt referring to maxis. She loves her daddy too much to believe he would control the zombies and rule the world. Both arent as bad as they appear. No matter if we side with maxis or richtofen, both sides will be shadowed by the greater threat in the end.

We're boned :cry:

P.S The mystery man in nacht could be anyone. Me, i think its the pentagon thief trying to get zombies in order to brainwash them The mystery man in anscenion could be yuri,gersc,or an illumati agent.

You make good points, but then who do you believe is the evil far greater that lies here? And revenge can be a very motivating factor.

Also, I didn't include it above, but don't forget the extremely evil laugh that Maxis gives right after we blow up the earth. That's not the laugh of an innocent man.

Look I don't like Benn. Flammen will totally back that statement because he knows my disdain for PTG. But Benn has a source on the inside. How good that is for us who don't like him? Meh. I just decide to ignore him and let him do his thing. I don't enjoy him getting this leaked info to boost his views, but he definitely has a source.

Welcome to the site! Love my Aussies! Expect a friend request haha.

Obviously, the red theory could be proven wrong in a couple of days. We'll see though.

And you are correct, Maxis could not control the zombies very well by just the normal methods. He needed a stronger force. He wanted to control the zombies and take over the world with a zombie army. He didn't want everyone dead. He wanted to control real people by controlling the zombies. You can't be King of the World without anyone to rule over. By taking control, he would succeed in what he could not accomplish earlier, which would be controlling the zombies, leading to control over all humans.

I'll stick with my Moon theme. It looks way better than just some picture.

Good stuff, but picture doesn't work :(

Welcome! Glad to have you!

If Maxis really was in control leading up to Samantha's takeover, he put on one HELL of an act for the 2 years leading up to the transfer of power.

What better way to gain someones trust? Don't forget, we are dealing with a genius who has had pre-recorded messages set in place years in advanced. We obviously know he has the capability to pull something like this off.

That is if you believe they are pre-recorded.

And whoa! I got Shooter! Man I'm honored! Thanks, even if we do disagree!

But once Richtofen switched bodies with Sam, does that mean it's not Maxis/Richtofen within the same body together?

Yes! Exactly! Which creates an even greater struggle between the two fighting for control of the body.

Of course some of what I say is would really appreciate more evidence, but I believe that this could be the case.

A few days ago I posed a question to the CoDz Community: Is there someone behind the scenes that is controlling everything that we do not know? And if there is, what are their intentions? Today, I will lay out evidence indicating that this mystery man is none other than Dr. Maxis himself.

Dr. Maxis is a very shady figure that no one knows a lot about. His intentions seem to be better than Richtofen's but we cannot be sure of that until the time comes. But there are many things that stand out to show that Maxis is not an innocent scientist who is trying "to save mankind" as he states in a message. With this post, I suggest that Dr. Maxis is a very evil man with malicious intentions that we can't even dream of understanding at this point.

As you all know, this is the Nacht Der Untoten loading screen. This mystery man, whoever it is, has been around since the beginning. Of the characters that we know, Maxis fits that description. He was there when the zombies were made. He's been involved in their development and trying to create a massive, controllable undead army.

Maxis has been around all the maps, working his ways and making sure what he wants done is complete. He did not just randomly appear in the Moon machines. He's been here this whole time. In this loading screen, we see him working on a project and also in a portal of sorts. And as we go throughout the next maps, he is still overseeing everything, as see in the Call of the Dead and Shangri-La loading screens.

But loading screen theories aren't the reason that I came up with this very interesting theory, but in-game evidence suggests this also.

This dark picture is the tower in TranZit after completing the Maxis side. As you can see, the orangish-red light shoots up the tower. This says that the color representing Maxis is an orangish-red color, the complete opposite of Richtofen's blue. Now why is this significant? I've begun to notice that red is appearing everywhere in the story, starting at Shangri-la. In Shangri-la, we had the first appearance of a red perk as monkeys would steal our power ups and run away with them.

Red power ups also appear in Moon, but for the life of me I can't find a picture.

We also had a red insta-kill that appears in TranZit. Maxis sends help to the heroes through red power ups.

But FatedTitan! In Shangri-la and Moon, the red power ups hurt you and definitely aren't helpful! Why is the red insta kill helpful then? Great question! Let's answer it.

In Black Ops, we are our original group of four going to help Richtofen complete his master plan. Maxis knows what Richtofen is trying to do and uses red power ups to be a detriment to the players. He doesn't want Samantha to not be in control of the zombies. As we turn to Black Ops 2 zombies, Samantha is no longer in control. Maxis uses his red power ups/perks to help the player because his goal is still the same...to stop Dr. Richtofen. He uses the new group to help him complete his plan to stop Richtofen. That is why he helps in Black Ops 2, but hurts in Black Ops.

But FatedTitan! I get what you're saying, but there's an issue. Maxis is dead! He's only in electronics! He can't give out power ups or perks. He doesn't have that type of control! Another great question. Let's explore it.

First, Maxis was shot in front of the MPD on Moon. The pyramid is powered by souls, meaning that Maxis' soul was absorbed into the device. Now where do these souls go? These souls are absorbed by the person in the device. That means that Maxis' soul was absorbed by Samantha. Samantha, being his daughter, gave him some power as well. Think of it as a split soul body. The best example of this that I can give is something like in Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood, where Ling partners with Greed to share his body for power. So Samantha does still have control of the zombies, but Maxis is behind the scenes, telling his daughter what to do. This is why he can give out power ups and such. He has some control, but not all control.

But there's more. When filling the containers during the Big Bang Theory Easter Egg, Samantha shouts many interesting quotes, such as

-"You will never succeed in this, Edward!"

-"The blackness will swallow your pride! Something far more terrible than you lies here!"

-"Edward! You will tremble in fear! I'll slice you apart and expose your rotten innards so you will be judged for what you have become!"

-"The earth's destruction will lie in your hands, Edward! Your fault!"

http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Richto ... Transcript

So what can we gather from these quotes?

1. Samantha knows Maxis' plans to destroy the earth if she loses power.

2. Something far more evil than Samantha lies there. Maxis is far more evil than Samantha and she would know this because of the time she has spent with him in her body.

3. Also, Samantha calls him Edward over and over again. What child calls an adult by their first name? It's extremely rare. But Dr. Maxis has always called him Edward. Maxis could be influencing her into what she says as well.

As Richtofen gained control, he was still in Samantha's body. So there is a struggle for control within the body. Richtofen obviously has the most control, since as the souls switched bodies, he became the dominant soul, but Maxis is still present. This is why he can still communicate and give power ups to players.

And now, let's look at Mob of the Dead.

Now we all know that Alcatraz Island is set way back in the early 1940s(from what we know at this time). So Maxis is not in Samantha's body yet. So why are the mystery box, zombies eyes, and this tomahawk power up all red? I point you back to the beginning.

As I stated at the beginning, Maxis has been in control the whole time. He was there when zombies were created. My guess is that Maxis was in control of the zombies before anyone was in a device. He was the one who trained them at Kino. He was the one who tried to create an undead army. It only makes sense that before anyone took control, he was in control. Now how he did this is beyond me. But this is what makes sense. He was in a position of power and continually was researching zombies.

So if Alcatraz Island is in the 40s, as we suspect, perhaps the red mystery box light, the red eyes, and the red perks all point toward Maxis being in control of the zombies.

But as all readers can guess right now, this is all a theory. No one can prove any of this without more information that would come out later in new maps. But let's stop here and take a new perspective on this.

Let's say that all of this is correct. So what are his intentions?

I think that without question, we can assume that Maxis' intentions are evil. In Moon, we hear Samantha scream, "The blackness will swallow your pride! Something far more terrible than you lies here!" He's is very evil, as this quote shows. But not only that, we can look at the TranZit quotes from the crazy man in the radio. He states:

"You think you're so smart, huh? You think you can manipulate everybody into doing what you want but we know the truth!...you're calculated works and your sniffzler agents. You mean to destroy this planet and kill us all! We're not gonna help! No way no how! So yea...keep talking. But no one's gonna hear you cuz we destroyed everything...everything electronic starting with evil radio box thing!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65MwZL-wt9w 2:43

Many have thought that this is talking about Richtofen, but Maxis is the one who communicates through electronics, not Richtofen! So according to this radio, this man believes that Maxis has plans to destroy the planet and kill everyone! This just goes to show his intentions are very evil. This man could even be more evil than Dr. Richtofen!

So if we want to find his intention, look in the previous quote. He wants to destroy the planet and kill everyone.

But FatedTitan! If this is true, didn't he already accomplish this? Great question! You would think that this is true. He destroyed the planet by sending the rockets to earth to destroy the world and stop Richtofen's control of the zombies. But this character is saying this quote after the rockets have hit earth. So the world, in this sense, has already been destroyed. So what does the man mean?

So this can't mean that he literally wants to destroy the world. Maxis must want something else. Maxis doesn't just want to destroy the world. He wants control of the zombies as well. He wants to be a god. And this goes back to an earlier point.

Maxis is still in Samantha's body, but not with her soul. That means that there is a struggle occurring for power. Maxis and Richtofen fighting for control of Samantha's body. And this could be what we're trying to do with this trichotomous system. Whichever side we choose could give control to them.

So in conclusion, Maxis is the man who is behind it all. He created the zombies and is the reason that we have the red glow in Mob of the Dead and the red power ups throughout maps. I didn't want to go into this too much, but perhaps the monkeys were sent by Maxis since they steal the power ups and they become red, but also explode in a red glow on Ascension. He's been here forever watching, making sure everything went according to his plans.

Thanks for reading this and I would love your comments.

Ok everyone here is my official trailer analysis for the new Mob of the Dead trailer that has just released. Now, there were MANY things that we've already seen, so I just took the biggest things that I found in the trailer to put together. So here it goes!

Here we have our view of Alcatraz Island, or Evil Island as it is also referred to as in the video. I couldn't start an analysis without this could I?

Now this was something I found that I didn't quite understand. We all know how Treyarch works so what does this map mean? It just floated into the frame for a second. At first, I thought it was a world map, but after looking at it closer, it can't be that. Could this be a map of the island thrown in, or is there more to it?

A picture from the docks once again. There's a red light from the mystery box that we still don't quite understand.

Ok this is something I had to bring up. Zombies like this have been in all the trailers we've seen. They either have huge shards of glass all in them or are wrapped in barbed wire. What is the significance of this? Why did this happen to all the zombies?

Our zombie boss falling after his death. I wanted to show this close up to dispel some rumors. This is NOT a warden. His badge just says Guard. So this is not our prison warden.

This is what you look like when you are in Afterlife mode. I think this debunks the theory that "Him" is just a man in Afterlife mode, though they do both shoot electricity. You also move extremely fast.

Another picture from within Afterlife mode.

For those afraid of the fans, don't worry. If the trap is active, your character can crawl underneath them to get past.

Here's a close up shot of the hellhound. Is this Fluffy?

So the tomahawk is a power up, not a special grenade. This tomahawk can be thrown at zombies and it will boomerang back to the player.

Here is an image of the tomahawk wrecking the zombies. What you can't see is that it goes through them, then comes back to the player.

And here are the four characters on the plane. I have to wonder how hard it is to actually construct the plane, especially if it is just to get to PaP. Could it just be about grabbing parts like any other buildable?

And the plane flies off into the clouds...well...at least to the bridge. Also. FLYING! We can fly! Hooray!

Okay that's all I've got! What do y'all think?

No idea about the #1 guy, but the other two are Activision testers. You can tell because of the ATVI.

I'm glad they listened to our frustration on no Die Rise trailer. This was a great trailer!

I don't think CotD and Shangri-la have to be in any particular order. You just have to have both done. But I could be wrong.

And seriously MMX? I figured you wouldn't be the one to question this haha.

A unique set of skills eh? Now THAT is interesting. What do y'all think this means? Will they each have something different that they specialize in, such as more damage with certain gun types and such?

Man rereading through this was a lot of fun! I still think there's more here though. Anyone got anything?

Also, I decided in honor of Afterlife mode to raise this thread from the dead.

Without this thread I probably wouldn't be here. :3

Epic bump, Fated.

BUT... it is Richtofen.

DEAL WITH IT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

I am sorry.

Ahem...

So as some have noticed, we will be having Grief -- Cellblock joining us with Uprising map pack. I'm guessing that means that one of the cell blocks will be our location for grief, but I also noticed that the hellhound is in the picture. So we know that this is the location of our fiery, furry friend.

Now the question is, will it be CDC vs CIA again or do y'all think it will be a new group, such as Guards vs Prisoners?

Man rereading through this was a lot of fun! I still think there's more here though. Anyone got anything?

Also, I decided in honor of Afterlife mode to raise this thread from the dead.

Who is the Avogadro? Never heard of him.

But in all seriousness, the game never refers to him as Avogadro and only as "Him" so that's what we should go off of.

How do you know that boss = warden?

Fair enough. I was referring to the boss as the warden because most on here have for now. Until it's proven that's not what he is, most are going to assume that's who it is.

While I'm still not sure on the date, I don't believe this is correct. Remember that these men have been at Alcatraz for years. This could have originally been an escape plan to just get off the island in general.

Also, another reason I can't see this being correct is that we have a hellhound in the map. Hellhounds weren't born until the Fluffy incident, which happened in the 40s.