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    Lord of the Underworld

    in Mob of the Dead

    Posted

    I'd like to change it too "Lord of the Underworld" that'll grab more peoples attention. I just want to get this subject out there, because it seems that people are all answering the same question that it is "Satan" but have no supporting evidence of why.

    I personally believe we are dealing with a certain religion here, Christianity.

    You say, Christianity. The main thing we are dealing with is the fact that all religions are the same. We all worship the same deities, we just gave them different names and worshiped them in different ways.

    The Deity we are dealing with is not the one that is well liked. That being Mictlantecuhtli, Satan, Lucifer, the Devil, Hades, and the list goes on and on. Its all the same ruler of the underworld. He just has a different name given to him by different cultures, which is a result of the Tower of Babel in biblical times.

    The Tower of Babel:

    The Tower of Babel forms the focus of a story told in the Book of Genesis of the Bible. According to the story, a united humanity of the generations following the Great Flood, speaking a single language and migrating from the east, came to the land of Shinar, where they resolved to build a city with a tower "whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth."

    God came down to see what they did and said: "They are one people and have one language, and nothing will be withheld from them which they purpose to do." "Come, let us go down and confound their speech." And so God scattered them upon the face of the Earth, and confused their languages, so that they would not be able to return to each other, and they left off building the city, which was called Babel "because God there confounded the language of all the Earth".

    This is just further proof, yes it was from the bible, but it shows us that we were all one utopia. We were then broke apart, upon breaking us apart and scattering us across the face of the Earth. We all began new languages, new cultures, and new beliefs. Hencing, that all religions are the same, but they all have different names and metaphors for their beliefs.

    So, yes, you are right. It is Christianity, along with every other religion on Earth, because they are all the same.

    I'm sorry. I know this is your opinion and all, but all religion is not the same. It doesn't take much research to find that.

    Also, not all religions reject others. I went to India this past summer and when we attempted to share Christ with them, the Hindus readily accepted Him. But they didn't understand. We were asking them to believe in one God. They just were thinking "well I have all these other ones, why not one more?" Hindus like their gods.

    Brutus -- A Foe to Both Sides

    in Mob of the Dead

    Posted

    Mictlantecuhtli aka Lucifer aka Satan is in control of the zombies. Want Proof? Check my thread.

    In the Colonial Codex Vaticanus 3738, Mictlantecuhtli is labelled in Spanish as "the lord of the underworld, Tzitzimitl, the same as Lucifer".

    Brutus happens to be an extra tormented soul, every single one of the zombies in Alcatraz look tortured including Brutus. Brutus is definitely not the Warden. Perhaps Brutus is the "Head Guard" and his sole purpose is to further torture the zombies in the prison. He does seem to have a mind of his own.

    Brutus sounds more like Napa from Dragon Ball Z than the voice from Die Rise.

    I believe that Al aka "Weasel" sold his soul to the Devil, "Mictlantecuhtli" so he would live instead of die. Weasel knew what the other 3 were going to do that night. Weasel started the plan as of normal and then Satan took over, transforming the prison into hell itself so that the other 3 were forced to attempt to escape instead of kill weasel. Since in History, they were all meant to die, escaping the prison wasn't an option. So, every time they escaped they were forced to return. Now, if Weasel completed the contract with the Devil, which was killing the 3 himself then they cycle would be broken. Hence, that is exactly what happened.

    Ok, so what connection does Mictlantechutli have? You say he's basically Lucifer or Satan, so why not just call him that? Why must he be Mictlantechutli?

    What is his name?

    in Mob of the Dead

    Posted

    Vril-Ya? I strongly believe that this creature is one of the Vril-Ya aliens. They are pure evil they are the Satan.

    Maybe....I'm just really skeptical about how much the Vril-ya are involved in zombies. Yes, they have a presence, I won't deny that. But so much stuff that people don't know the answer to or can't explain just use "It's the Vril-ya" as a cop out. It's made me question their involvement in certain things. They're definitely there, but Treyarch makes tons of references to things that aren't completely involved in the story, but create atmosphere and involve conspiracy.

    Well their saucer craft concepts were around Der Rise. Then Richtofen found their pyramid and after touched it got their voices in his head. Samantha got trapped in their Pyramid and becomes the controller of zombies. She describes that there is a much more stronger and evil force that Richtofen doesn't understand (The Vril-Ya)

    Richtofen goes and finds Vril generator and focusing stone to switch souls with Samantha so he gets to the Vril pyramid. He becomes "demonic" like Samantha and gets control. IMO the Vril-Ya is exactly the "EVIL" in the Nazi Zombies story. The all mighty demonic force in Aether that have connection with Element 115 which linked them to this world trough the zombies and involvement of Samantha and Richtofen.

    I'm not arguing that they have a part in the story. And Richtofen met the Vril-ya at Shangri-la. If I do recall, we determined that they were wiped out at Shangri-la, which was the gateway to Agartha.

    What is his name?

    in Mob of the Dead

    Posted

    Vril-Ya? I strongly believe that this creature is one of the Vril-Ya aliens. They are pure evil they are the Satan.

    Maybe....I'm just really skeptical about how much the Vril-ya are involved in zombies. Yes, they have a presence, I won't deny that. But so much stuff that people don't know the answer to or can't explain just use "It's the Vril-ya" as a cop out. It's made me question their involvement in certain things. They're definitely there, but Treyarch makes tons of references to things that aren't completely involved in the story, but create atmosphere and involve conspiracy.

    Brutus -- A Foe to Both Sides

    in Mob of the Dead

    Posted

    The devs have stated that the Easter Egg songs play a part in the story. They mean something. And when the definition of Paredolia is a hidden message on a song when played backwards, I am pretty sure a hidden message in the song when played backwards was intentional and placed there for a reason. And if it had no significance, why wouldn't Kevin just make it say "Kevin Sherwood is amazing" or something. It has significance.

    For those who haven't heard it, make your own opinions.

    What is his name?

    in Mob of the Dead

    Posted

    Historically, all the names, except Demonic Announcer, have referred to Satan. They're just different names. Just call him Prince of Darkness for all I care haha! They're all the same to me.

    Also, anyone find it humorous that Lucifer is the Prince of Darkness, yet Lucifer literally means "Bringer of Light"?

    Brutus -- A Foe to Both Sides

    in Mob of the Dead

    Posted

    I don't remember who said what but here's two things.

    1. Yes Samantha is good at heart. She has no intention to destroy the world, just the O4. Attacking anyone else in the story is a means to an end. The Five group is attacked because of their involvement in Group 935. Call of the Dead is attacked to stop the actors from getting the Vril Generator to the O4. Sam never just randomly attacks different groups. No where in the story do we see this. She just awakens zombies at certain points to stop the O4 or Group 935 agents.

    2. Yes, I am referring to Paredolia backwards. I find it no coincidence that Paredolia can mean a hidden message when a song is played backwards and we have those words clear as day when it is played backwards.

    3. I don't believe that Brutus entering the Warden or guard or whoever he is is Brutus' attempt at finding a human intermediary. I believe this occurred because of a Satanic ritual that occurred. Look at all the rituals set up on the map. Also, Brutus says that he's stuck here. If he can't accomplish his goal, then why stay? He is being forced to be something greater than him.

    And thanks for all of the comments guys. You are right, there is a severe lack of evidence. I understand this. I can't exactly pull evidence that isn't there. My two pieces are that Brutus and the voices sound the same and Brutus has a sense of self and claims to not want to be there. Everything else is me trying to piece together a hidden puzzle. Everything could be wrong, and if so I'm ok with that. But I figured that the connection I did see was strong enough where I wanted thoughts on it. Perhaps if this is correct, Trollarch will provide more evidence soon.

    Brutus -- A Foe to Both Sides

    in Mob of the Dead

    Posted

    I think we have a winner...

    But seriously, amazing theory. I think it's safe to assume that your theory is correct, and I have some additional info you might want to add.

    Having my fair share of encounters with Brutus, I've heard him say an interesting quote;

    "This is MY prison!"

    I'm sure you've seen this already as well, but there are several newspaper clippings on a bulletin board in the Warden's Office with pictures of Brutus. And what's the headline of said picture? -SPECT WARDEN.

    Obviously the first word is cut off, but Warden is pretty clear. Before jumping to conclusions, let's look at some evidence:

    1. According to one of the trailers, Treyarch said that the Warden would collect civil war weapons and is the creator of the Blundergat. Billy Handsome supports this theory when he says that he smuggled the weapons from the warden's "private collection." So now we know that the warden has a collection of civil war weapons.

    2. There are dozens of candles littering the warden's office, blood smeared on the windows and cryptic messages written on the walls. The state of the office greatly resembles a Satanic ceremony, so for now we can presume that the warden is a Satanist.

    Now put all the pieces together: Could Brutus in fact be the warden? There is minimal evidence, but it adds to the theory: Brutus (the warden) wants power over the undead, so he starts Devil Worship in his office and starts to go crazy trying to achieve power, and is eventually turned into one of Satan's minions and his plans all go wrong.

    Again, just a theory, but I thought I'd share it with you.

    This is very interesting as well. The Warden obviously was a Satanist. There are rituals set up all over the prison. Now the Warden becoming Brutus...interesting. I'll have to think about it. I'm not saying it's wrong. In fact, it sounds good. But I'll have to think more on that before I decide.

    Brutus -- A Foe to Both Sides

    in Mob of the Dead

    Posted

    Brutus, as most know, is the guard that constantly attacks our four mobsters (M4?) at Mob of the Dead. The thing that makes him stand out on the map is not his hulking size or ability to put you in the red with one hit. It’s his sense of self. We’ve never seen this in a zombie. Sure, George obviously communicated and knew who he was. But he had just turned and the zombieness hadn’t taken full effect. Brutus, on the other hand, looks to have been turned for a while and is a full zombie.

    So why does this matter? Who cares if Brutus communicates with us in any way? Well I sure do. I want you to consider the quotes that Brutus states as you attack him. “Why do you hurt me? I’m stuck here just like you.” There are others, but those are two that I remember best and no one online seems to have a compilation of Brutus quotes up yet. This makes it sound like Brutus does not want to do this, but is being required to. He doesn’t want to hurt you, so why are you hurting him? He doesn’t want to be here, but he’s stuck here just like us. So what can we make of this?

    1. Brutus has a sense of self. He recognizes who he is.

    2. He is not doing this out of desire, but out of requirement.

    So if Brutus is doing this, then who’s making him? Well for the longest time I’ve thought Maxis is evil, and I still do, but at this point in the story, I believe that it is Satan that is in charge of the zombies. We’ve heard his announcements in Grief and he’s definitely if not Satan, an extremely powerful demon. For this, I will call him Satan. So Satan is in control of the zombies. Evil has spread throughout this place. But then we have Brutus, one of Satan’s loyal subjects…or so he thought.

    Brutus is not happy with Satan. He wants the power. He feels he is better and that the world would be better with him in charge. Note that his version of better would be more destruction and death. The problem is that Brutus has no way of gaining power. He cannot just steal the power away from Satan. He needs something else. He needs a person.

    Now before continuing, I want to note the similarities between Brutus in zombies and Brutus from Julius Caesar. Brutus was Caesar’s man. Brutus acted just like a great servant and friend would. Then the day came for the assassination and Brutus plunged the sword into Caesar. Caesar, in shock, uttered the famous words “Et tu Brute?” The same can be said of our Brutus in Mob of the Dead. He has a goal to betray Satan, but it has not fully hatched yet. At least, not at this time period.

    I was playing Die Rise the other day before Mob of the Dead came out and I was Samuel. It was interesting to hear the voices in his head saying their mumbled words. Once Mob of the Dead launched, I had a chance to encounter Brutus. Immediately, I noticed a striking similarity in the voices in Samuel’s head and Brutus’ voices. If you have not taken the time to listen to them, you should check them out. I searched for any footage on YouTube, but could not find any of either of them. To add to that trouble, my capture card software is not on my new laptop.

    So let’s venture out into the great unknown for a bit. Let’s say that Brutus wants the power, but cannot take it away from Satan. He doesn’t have the ability to take it by himself. But a man comes and touches and ancient artifact. This ancient artifact has a demonic presence within it that can give a person omnipotence. This is what Brutus desired, but could not achieve since he is only a demon, not a person. But this man comes and touches the device. Now, due to touching this device, he can hear the voices on the demons. All these voices screaming into his ears. This man begins to go insane. Then, he hears a voice. A voice he understands. Only a demon of great power could be understood. That demon was Brutus.

    If you haven’t caught on yet, that man is Dr. Richtofen. What I’m suggesting with this thread is that Brutus is one of the voices in Richtofen’s head. Brutus tells Richtofen what to do to gain power, not so Richtofen will have it, but so Brutus can use Richtofen to, in a sense, have the power himself. Brutus stabs Satan by leading Richtofen to the point to where he could take over the zombies. But then, a little girl gets in the way.

    So why not just let Samantha have control? Satan no longer has control, so isn’t Brutus’ plan complete? Not even close. Brutus wants the power. Brutus wants to destroy the world his way. He wants what Satan had. But Samantha doesn’t want that. She only wants to stop the men working with Group 935. The rest of the world can live in peace with her in charge. So Brutus leads Richtofen through the steps to get him into the place that Samantha is. When that occurs, Brutus achieves his goal.

    Samantha knows Brutus’ intentions and Satan’s for that matter. She knows the demonic forces that lie behind what she is covering up. She fights to keep control. This is another reason that she continually attacks the O4. She wants to stop the plan from being enacted. Samantha wasn’t joking when she said that something far more evil lied there. It did, and it was demonic. Kevin Sherwood hints at this in Paredolia, where he hides the lyrics “Save me Moses, Satan la vue.” Most sources I’ve seen have stated that Satan la vue translates roughly to “I’ve seen the devil.” Samantha has seen the evil that lurks behind her. She knows what she is trying to fight to keep away from the world. She knows she’s not strong enough. So she’s crying out to Moses to save her from this situation. Why Moses? My theory is she’s Jewish, or else she would cry out to Jesus. But that’s a topic for another post.

    But why do I say he is a foe to both sides? I strongly believe that Brutus is not a friend of the human race. He’s using Richtofen to get what he desires. But he is also not a friend of Satan. He betrays him and leads to his dethronement.

    So my theory is, in short, Brutus is one of the many voices in Richtofen’s head. Due to his power, he is the strongest and most easily heard voice to Richtofen. Richtofen follows it. Brutus wants Satan’s perch in control of the zombies. He is not stronger than Satan, so he must use an intermediary, in this case Richtofen. With Richtofen in control, Brutus is in control.

    What does everyone think? I wish I had video evidence for this, but you’ll have to go in game for that. I just don’t have the ability at this moment to get a captured video of any quality. Thanks for reading!

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