Tac

5 hours ago, Robertos0511 said:

What makes you sure that Jessica Rose will appear in this map?

Haha nah I was only kidding, just making a joke between German dungeon porn and her line of work.

The thing under the finger almost looks like the back drop behind the mainframe to me.  Don't play that often though, so I may be wrong.

So first, the vibe I get from this map is German dungeon porn, and the Iron Dragon is likely related to Dr. Richtofen.  I also speculate that Jessica Rose will be here.  I'm almost sure about this.  

2 minutes ago, NaBrZHunter said:

As I recall, there is no evidence of 115 being used to change the O4's genetic makeup. The only indication that it was used on them is their memory loss, which was deliberate. Richtofen was attempting to 'unlock the trust barrier,' and apparently, that required clouding their memories, potentially through use of 115, but only speculatively. 

115 does not change a zombie's genetic structure. It reanimates dead cells, presumably due to its high electromagnetic properties, but that too may be unconfirmed. Zombies are still genetically the same, just infected and reanimated. 

This was my understanding as well.

4 minutes ago, NaBrZHunter said:

115 being used in the perk-a-colas is also unconfirmed. Speculative, but unconfirmed. 

I suppose technically unconfirmed, but the strength of speculation is rather high I'd argue.

3 hours ago, Stop Mocking Me0 said:

-Alter electromagnetic fields (Plane crash in Nact)

So I'll throw in that I also think this is what happened, but I concede to @NaBrZHunter that there's literally no evidence haha.

3 hours ago, BlindBusDrivr said:

The similarities of these two images are just... man.  I can't wait.  Good find!

Awesome thread, never knew this existed.  Just saved my life right now!

Brazil is always possible but I consider it way to obvious, for one.  For two, Dempsey says they already went there, and I don't see any maps of us going backwards, especially when the time he was at Brazil was likely during Richtofen's two year absence, meaning we'd play with the Origins 3 and a random, instead of the Origins 4.

Is there any way you can format this in a way that better fits the whole page, instead of the single column from the status update reply box that you copy and pasted from?  After that, evidence to support your claims would add legitimacy to your post.  I'd recommend making this into a full post with all the details, so others can see your thoughts!

Lolol what in the hell did I just watch...

Se7enSins forum has a post with the current known steps (though no finale) and on Reddit, one user says they have done and confirmed what's been listed thus far, while another originally claimed they had but since said maybe not, and YouTuber "The Resort" states he can't recreate it.

@Nightmare Voyager, to me, the Origins 3 seem to have tabs on either the many old Richtofen's or the singular young Richtofen, as those two interact in various timelines.  I say he must be keeping tabs because when young Richtofen kills old Richtofen, Dempsey says "I thought we were done with this!"  Now, I say that tabs are being kept on the many old Richtofen's, instead of the singular young Richtofen, because Dempsey asked young Richtofen where he'd been for two years (pointing to no tabs on young Richtofen), and Nikolai mentions killing multiple Richtofen's (possible indication of tab on many old Richtofen's).  Somehow, they know when something is going to happen to an old Richtofen and in The Giant, it is the first time in two years that they have known something was going to happen.  Does that seem plausible?

Just now, Stop Mocking Me0 said:

Constants and variables Tac. 

Every universe is exactly the same until it's different. The luteces knew that. We sacrifice things at four alters on both maps to feed a device on a circular panel which requires a ball-like artifact to work. 

See the connections now? If not just look at the difference in the moon artifact and the summoning stone. They're painstakingly similar. 

 

Also yes the keepers are the wraiths. I say that because I believe the "ancient society" is of vrill-ya origin. But I also don't think those things are Vrill-ya either. The keepers are more like wraiths, they appear from  plasma-esque portals, and depict horribly disfigured cloaked visions of the past. I'd like to think the keepers are a sort of fire-wall to keep people from activating the device to allow species like the margs to cross over. But that's just a hunch with no viable evidence. 

The reason I don't see the connection is because I consider the Moon orb to be specific to that timeline and only work in that timeline, whereas the Apothicon Rift Stone isn't specific to any timeline and actually works in the entire Universe.  I see them as having fundamentally different purposes, so I don't think they can be described as the same thing but in different timelines.

Also, I can see where you're coming from with that.  Certainly a possible theory.

5 hours ago, Cheesegrater28 said:

Same with Origins Richtofen and Giant Richtofen. They seem like two completely different people, not to mention even if young Richtofen time traveled forward, wouldn't older Richtofen have memories of this if they are in the same timeline.

46 minutes ago, Stop Mocking Me0 said:

Think about it, richtofen is in the giant both as crazy WAW richtofen and young richtofen, which is cool and all but it basically proves it's another universe. If it was the same universe, then richtofen just killed himself, and would always know he's killed himself, and thus wouldn't become crazy richtofen, whom he would then not be able to kill. It's a paradox unless you consider that he is killing a diffrent richtofen from a similar timeline. 

First and foremost, after spending the 30 seconds thinking about it and reading these replies, instead of thinking I had a clear understanding, I absolutely concede that I'm wrong.  No possible way for Giant and Origins to be the same timeline.  I want to point out, however, that neither of these two things proves it.  The personalities can be explained by saying that even if Origins and The Giant were the same timeline, it begins converging with the original timeline and becomes altered.

6 hours ago, Cheesegrater28 said:

My own opinion on it, is to show how these alternate universes are infinitely different yet can still be very much the same. Der Riese had the Giant project, while Origins had actual Giant robots in WW1, and yet The Giant seems to have the robots in WWII. If they had the robots in WW1 and lost, why waste time rebuilding the same robots, especially when the world would have 20+ years to make improvements. Group 935 would be beyond that kind of research and technology by 1945 if that's what they were doing in 1918. 

I had thought of that, but reasoned it away as simply them making repairs on a very old one.

6 hours ago, Cheesegrater28 said:

Like how Maxis seems to still be alive and have a daughter before The Giant, even though we last saw him as a brain inside a drone in Origins. This could be explained by we never see his body so he might be a in a robot still, or maybe a body transplant.

This is a fantastic point, and frankly, one that I had never thought of (somehow).  Bravo.

@Stop Mocking Me0, that's vertainly an interesting theory haha.  I don't believe the Apothicon Rift Stone is connected to the ball on Moon just yet, nor that the Moon EE really counts as "sacrifices" in the same sense, but who knows.  By "wraith-like vrill guardians," are you referring to the Keepers?  Your use of terms is confusing me, a little.

2 hours ago, ChinaRepublic said:

Is this your footage? That name for the Apothicon Servant is not one of the regular four possibilities. If you've found something, pls share :))

Not his footage, it originates from Reddit.  Since my post was the last of page 4, I'll quote it here:

2 hours ago, Tac said:

For anyone who cares, this originates from a Reddit post with the title "d_str_yth_st_t__s," and as one can notice, it appears the vowels are removed.  As others have pointed out on Reddit, it could mean destroy the statues.  Just thought I'd throw that in there.

6 minutes ago, Afrochubman said:

Can anyone explain this

For anyone who cares, this originates from a Reddit post with the title "d_str_yth_st_t__s," and as one can notice, it appears the vowels are removed.  As others have pointed out on Reddit, it could mean destroy the statues.  Just thought I'd throw that in there.

1 hour ago, Stop Mocking Me0 said:

I don't very much see the point... It's a mega gumball right? Well that means each gumball used gives you a chance of getting a perk bottle, where "on the house" works every time. It might be more likely to get that gumball, but it's still randomized by divinium...

It would be nice for situations in which, as opposed to only wanting a perk power-up, you want the chance at one of many things, including a perk bottle.

I genuinely believe it to be nothing.  I personally don't think it's at all intentional, but if it is, it's inconsequential.  I do hope I'm proven wrong, though.

It's about time we had a thread on this!  So first and foremost, similar to what @Cheesegrater28 said, The Giant is not a prequel to Der Riese, per se.  The Giant and Der Riese take place in two completely separate timelines so for the robot head to be there is not an issue in terms of it not being there in Der Riese.  Additionally, because it is two separate timelines, I personally don't believe that Maxis was referring to the robots when he sent that letter to the Reichstag asking for more funding.  As for why it's in The Giant almost three decades after Origins, that's a bit different, but I subscribe to the idea that it's merely being repaired, not being built for the first time.  This would mean that Origins and The Giant can still be in the same timeline, which I think is significant.

Thanks everyone, I appreciate it!

Is there any chance of you finding that 114 reference?  To me, the technology used to build the FIVE teleporters is similar, if not identical, to the Gersh device.  From a visual standpoint, they operate in very similar manners.  I'll have to find one of my old threads about this.

Five takes place between October 16th and November 22nd, 1963, at 3:00 PM.  I'll quote my time and locations thread here:

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How do we know it’s the right time period? In the War Room, there's an SR-71 Blackbird Chart for pilots, and there is a date on the board that reads 11/19/63, yet has no data. The most recent date with data is 10/16/63, so that's the minimum date since President John F. Kennedy died on November 22nd, 1963. In Ascension, there are telephones in allowing you to hear the characters from FIVE, implying the maps occur at the same time. In the FIVE cutscene, there's a clock on the wall that says 12:00 in Moscow, Russia. In Ascension (believed to be at Baikonur Cosmodrome), you can see a clock reading 12:00. The Baikonur Cosmodrome is in the same time zone as Moscow. Using a simple world clock, FIVE would have to be either 3:00 AM or 3:00 PM. Ascension is during the dark, which would correlate with the clock showing 12:00, in this case being midnight, meaning that FIVE takes place at 3:00 PM.

Thanks for leading me here @PINNAZ, much appreciated!  So, first, I assume the two Corvus intel pieces are "SP/Corvus Data archive 17/935" and "SP/Corvus Data archive 67/935" and if this is the case, it's due to campaign progression and nothing else.  Additionally, here's a link to my thread about this terminal.  Reply with anything you'd like to see added :)

1 hour ago, Hells Warrrior said:

@Tac now resolved bud, the staff / UoTM / HoF / Vet "badges" top right of posts was the culprit and I have disabled them for the time being.

Thank you very much, I appreciate it!

In regards to the quote you mentioned, each character has a significant quote for each of the first three rounds in relation to their "mission" or reason for coming to The Giant, so that wasn't specific to whatever actions you may have performed.

Very odd that they removed the Blackstone references.

I've wondered about this quote myself, before.  I just came to believe it was a funny quote and nothing more, as much as I don't like to say it.  If we can find a way to may it work, however, that would be something.  Would you be able to explain your time travel idea a little more, @ChinaRepublic?

3 hours ago, DrVonstool said:

Here's something interesting: http://www.google.com/patents/US1102653

We've discussed Goddard before on the site, though I don't remember why... Anywho, it's awesome seeing a reference to real life in the map, being fictional and all!  We haven't had any nods to real life yet so that's awesome.