Why1sTheRumGone

but for me it was tuesday.

You just won the internet, good sir!

Agreed.

:lol:

good read, mostly agree, have a few questions/ideas though,..

if kino is in 1960's,

how then is it possible to have a radio transmission of the o4 arriving at kino in Shi No Numa,..

you know the one?

is this recording from the future? how is this possible? I not so sure,

the map must start before snn sometime, or at the sametime, but I doubt it. think this map is set in more than 1 time. but then how did the tower get there?

cotd modern time, and richtofen hands over the dg2, ending our ability to time travel

Shangri-la modern time, time traveling temple, time backwards with eclipse, im guessing to the exact moment were supposededly at der riese, there is an eclipse there 2, der riese is also the 1st we time travelled, maybe it wasn't the dg2.

moon modern time,.. marlton in nuketown while ol4 on moon,

motd ferguson states he was a guard at the prison from 33-42, so its after 1942, he didn't die that new years eve, al did, weeks later the other 3 were executed, ferguson did not die that night he lived and time moved on, mob 4 are forced to relive that night, so there frozen in time, in their new reality(hell probs), the rest of the world is not, brutus lets us know the truth,

or all time realy is frozen but when the cycle is broken time is free to move forward again, this kinda happens in die rise with richtofen being able to pull it off, so maybe motd is a taste of what a REAL CONTROLLER can do(pretty crazy stuff in that map)

I cant help but wonder if treyarch planned it all from the start, I mean if they didn't, id be willing to go as far as saying there a bit behind us in terms of the story,

things like adding the kino intro to a radio in snn when blops arrived, why?

maybe they found a hole in their original plot,..

some trearch guy "so we just throw this radio in here,.. and problem solved" then other treyarch guy goes "no, no,.. this is merely to buy us more time, so we can figure out where this story goes, before they do"

**points at codz**

surely their z fans, they must play the game, do the ee, at the very least theyd wanna find the 3 teddybears youd think theyd want samanthas voice, maybe the promoters didn't or something?

maybe someone should just ask em? a7 that is, why didn't you guys go with sams voiceover? not heavy enough?

but then again the first rule of fight club,..

Can anyone confirm something for me? The trailer that has the the different voice, did the title of the repost on codtv have (feat. avenged sevenfold) in the name?

you joined just to ask this?

do you represent the band by any chance?

it lists the map name only, as these are introductions for the maps, not trailers,..

it also doesn't say featuring, and follow with the names of any voice actors, deisgners, programers, sound tech, other bands, singers, etc, from this intro or any of the others,..

so why does it matter?

It matters because the one on Treyarch's youtube channel does say featuring Avenged Sevenfold, and I listen to them enough to know that the first narrator sounds exactly like the singer of the band. So I'm thinking that that is part of the "Feat. Avenged Sevenfold" in the title. So maybe is wasn't meant to sound like Samantha in the first place. I wanted to know if the trailer on CodTV had the feature in the title to see if that was a legitimate possibility.

well why didn't you say so, :oops: that actually makes perfect sense, their song they do the voice overs,

they need to release this map now, all the intel and theory goin round this past 2 weeks im actually starting to think people in real life are up no good, :roll:

:idea: don't mix booze with thinking :lol:

if you cant beat em join, practise your grief tactics when you encounter players/troll likes this,..

transit: turret in a bus,.. "why would you do that" :shock:

motd: on the docks you can lock someone in with the plane part :twisted:

revive people attempting to use afterlife :cry:

nuketown: if the box spawns at back of house were the drops are, when you go to purchase the 2nd door to get through the house, use the one the left mix it up and use the stairs too shhh! bloody tight asses,..

dierise: hide your t/steam somewhere no one ever goes now your free to take everyone elses t/steam, hide them too, no more fun for you :x

buried: keep a drink handy, the big fella will happily charge down your fellow comrades 8-)

Can anyone confirm something for me? The trailer that has the the different voice, did the title of the repost on codtv have (feat. avenged sevenfold) in the name?

you joined just to ask this?

do you represent the band by any chance?

it lists the map name only, as these are introductions for the maps, not trailers,..

it also doesn't say featuring, and follow with the names of any voice actors, deisgners, programers, sound tech, other bands, singers, etc, from this intro or any of the others,..

so why does it matter?

It's 2 voices. When Richtofen gets dual pistols on one map, he'll say, "One for each voice in my head!"

So, a voice for Maxis and a voice for future!Richtofen, maybe?

could the second voice be sam's maybe? im thinking not.

Samuel can hear voices, we know richtofen is 1, richtofen is in the mpd, not sure if there even is a 2nd voice for Samuel,

richtofen can also hear voices, sam is in the mpd?

as for maxis, well, its plausible, I mean, how does maxis get from computer to the aether, maybe he's always been in the aether, if he got shot next to the mpd, it would capture his soul, right?

so richtofen is in control, but maxis will is strong, he cant just be deleted, and so finds a way to communicate through machines, etc.

so maybe the 2nd voice is maxis, trying to get through?

He is loosing his shit. Element 115 is starting to kick in.

no, no,.. its already kicked in.... you are talking about me right :? :roll:

I covered this in a thread that I posted a few minutes ago. Here it is if you want the full read (it's a long one): http://www.callofdutyzombies.com/forum/ ... 55&t=35182

However, my shortened, guick response is that I believe that that isn't young Richtofen. It's actually older Richtofen who got placed into younger Richtofen's body. Although, I think I may have come up with something much more sensible but still around those lines. I need to go compile some information.

I actually really like that theory, Future Richtofen going into his past self (somehow) maybe to change something?

The concept that I'm working out right now is that it is actually that either Richtofen sent himself back, or Maxis sent him back so that way they can guide younger Richtofen in what to do? The voices in Richtofen's head? It's been Richtofen. It's always been Richtofen. But it's been a Richtofen that knows what he's doing. Essentially, Richtofen/Maxis sent him back in time, into younger Richtofen's body so that way NONE of the story ever happens. Maxis keeps his daughter, Richtofen has his body, and the zombie infestation is done. Over.

The only reason I'm considering this as even remotely possible is that Treyarch is very heavily hinting that this isn't just the beginning, but it's also the end.

very interesting

does anyone remember treyarch saying to be carefull with the choices we make around mob of the dead? do we know if more people broke the cycle or continued?

givin that on the gg its 3 vs 1 at the end, chances are the cycle continued,..

and maybe this is the beginning and the end,

maxis or whatever/whoever sends richtofen back to prevent these things from happening, but maybe its a cycle a loop, richtofen has no idea what has happened, kinda like he just wakes up from a long slumber, and so he continues on none the wiser, doing everything as before until he teleports to the moon touches the mpd, then BAM, it all starts coming back to him, story goes on, somehow he is sent back,

or maybe time itself is setback,( dunno, this is the only part that troubles me)and voila,

cycle continues,..

:idea:

if our choice mattered in buried,.. do you think more people would have completed richtofen, bear with me on this one, if richtofen wins the day, maxis loses, so maybe maxis is the central character that the cycle revolves around, he fails at moon and has a backup plan, if he fails the towers, i think he'd most likely have a backup plan for this aswell, so he fails the towers and richtofen wins and deletes maxis....(again ) maxis failsafe/contingency plan falls into place, somehow reset the clock and start again, so kill maxis to break the cycle? or let him win?

maxis backupplan might have failed to take into account not remembering anything hence the cycle,

im gon stop here my mind just started doing backflips,

keep it coming

edit: you got me thinking so hard i forgot to comment on what you said about the voices always being richtofen, kinda makes sense and resulted in my mind doing backflips above, hmmm,.. is their 1 voice? or is it voices?

more than 1 voice cant be him surely, but,.. if there were a cycle, is it possible for slightly different events to occur like in Shangri-la? if so, could there be multiple richtofen voices or.. echoes of previous mpd occupants(i like this wording better) coz this is like the 100th time the cycle has continued?

Awesome, cept ill be honest I don't seen to have many friends this side of the sea. And now no one is on!

Ps3 any one?

Also any whAt perks did people get in solo?

all the pu's work in Public, Solo and Custom,

try a custom match and sign in a guest, you'll be playing split-screen but its co-op

maybe theres another criteria for earning it that's been overlooked,

no one should be having trouble getting this i mean how hard is it to buy 4 perks on round 1, or before round4, or is it 6 now?

i got mine round 1 qr, mk, jug, dt2, also haven't lost it since, it is pretty unreliable however, it doesn't always work! idkw

Any one not been able to get tombstone perma?

Tried numerous times to which I've had no luck.

try buying all 4 perks in round 1 just to be certain,

also 1 of these perks MUST be Quick Revive,

not sure how you lose it though, seems to be with you multiple games,

however sometimes it wont work, dunno why, maybe sometin to do with QR

unless they just hotfixed it in that isn't true. I NEVER buy quick revive as one of my 4 perks but I have it.

do you ever play SOLO? coz 1 of the perks MUST be Quick Revive in SOLO, due mostly to the FACT that you will not get back up after being downed in a solo match without having QR

with the exception of die rise of course, running tombstone with who's who is pointless, so it would seem there in in fact some truth to my statement after all :o

Any one not been able to get tombstone perma?

Tried numerous times to which I've had no luck.

try buying all 4 perks in round 1 just to be certain,

also 1 of these perks MUST be Quick Revive,

not sure how you lose it though, seems to be with you multiple games,

however sometimes it wont work, dunno why, maybe sometin to do with QR

im no genius , but doesn't science rely on theory to progress when no other means are available?

"even a theory that is disproven, has its purpose" some famous guy said probably

the new dlc will bring us the answers,.. and more questions, but, at least some answers,.. ..

..and

.. more questions :roll:

Here's my take on what TranZit/Green Run is...

Rumors of all the Zombie outbreaks spread to the US governement. Seems to be that a lot of advanced technology is associated with the outbreaks as well, hence the US's interest.

If Origins is the "beginning", as Treyarch states, we should assume this is the first time the world has ever seen a zombie outbreak and, though we can't say for sure if these Robots are associated with the zombie outbreak or not, we do know they're there.

Rumors coming back to the US would have been just as cryptic and undefined, but the point was clear: Zombies outbreak, very advanced Robots were there, odd electrical technolgies, teleportation, and more...Oh my!

After the Marines at Nacht, US intelligence may have began to connect more dots and wanted to replicate this unnatural zombie outbreak phenomena, in hopes that they may also gain the "perks" that seems to come along with it (the advanced technology).

So, they tried to redesign Nacht at a test facility. They also tried to replicate the odd electrical phenomena as seen by the Tesla Coil-like structures in Origins, but ended up instead with HIM. They populated the "Town" and surrounding areas of their test facility, and let these inhabitants go on living with no idea they were human lab rats, only there to eventually become a zombie.

They also fashioned a crude robot (perhaps hoping that if the outbreak ocurred, it would advance their crude design), that is no more than a GPS system that can drive itself. It's really not a complicated technology at all. The mannerisms we see of the Bus Driver are programmed responses, but some brand new AI learning software may have also been implemented that wasn't refined yet, so it's possible this software met some success and the Bus Driver was able to learn some small things.

I don't believe the US was ever successful in "manufacturing" their own zombie outbreak, but it did eventually happen...I think it was after the rockets hit. So, basically TranZit is a failed experiment by the US governement to manufacture a zombie outbreak in hopes of unlocking all the rumored technology that seemed to "magically" accompany the zombie outbreaks that were ocurring in Europe during the time.

Now, that makes a whole lotta sense. Great theory.

there is a whole lotta evidence that would support this one way or another,

under the town is a hidden facility, with cages, keypads for doors that match with the ones used in five,

pentagon is government facility :roll: , the powerstation, is also a hidden government lab, an outhouse leading to an underground power facility, even outside looks as though it it is made to resemble a factory/warehouse,

the computers in the room with the power switch have screens on them identical to that in five, the section in the middle of the room that rises up to reveal 'HIM', is some form of holding cell/prison,.. (the local power company has some explaining to do )

whatever went on at green run, is surely some form of government test site, for what, idk?

:idea: I think maybe the reused textures hold more clues than we think,..

id just like to say, bo2 zombies is still zombies, wait for the last map, if you still like blops 1 better,..

so be it,

hopefully with enough good feedback, treyarch and activision will develop an all zombies game(if theres not already one in the making), just coz they know how much we love this game,..

so please, pretty please, even if you don't like blops 2, pretend that you do for a while, and we may just get blops 3 or a standalone zombies game,..!

so instead of campaigning how bad it is, campaign how they can improve on the next instalment! I mean there WILL be another installment wont there treyarch,..

papapapweeeeeeaasse,..!

edit: by saying campaigning how bad it is, im not targeting anyone just trying to get an idea for positive campaigning out there :)

The time period and "introduction" of Element 115 here lends more credence to the theory that I have had since World at War. That Nikola Tesla's test of the Wardenclyffe tower created the Tunguska Explosion and introduced Element 115. World War 1 starts and the tower is "abandoned and broken into"...

I'm just glad we are finally back to the four original characters. Started to hate all of the new characters they were never as strong and as developed and memorable as these four are.

could this be Nikola Tesla's tower,

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5756/y4oe.png

also that tank looks like it travels both directions sorta like gondola, you can see the red arrows pointing both directions, id say ther the tank tracks,..

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/2175/3n0o.png

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5188/n28h.png

thought id throw this in,.. Speedy!

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5730/q15j.png

edit: the guy in this screenshot looks animated

or paris? does the snowy dog map have a ww1 feel, coz theres snow in origins!

I think they are gonna be shootin at us and or the zombies, maybe a trap?

check out the origins vid from 1:12 to bout 1:16 or so, just as the charcters heads look up, theres a subliminal msg, then it cuts to you running through a tunnel, you might have to watch 2-3 times to notice but there is definitely machine gun fire coming at you from somewhere, high? looks like a strafing run to me

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYj9ceEcIy8

I think i saw a bench behind the zombie in the supposed "nact image"

Interesting...I've never noticed that...

I also didn't notice this,

if their is a workbench in the nacht image, perhaps we'll see workbenches and buildables on the old maps like what they did with mule kick?

or has anyone noticed that purple lightning ring around that tesla thing, I instantly think die rise purple teleport lightning, so might be a bit far fetched, but maybe, just maybe we can teleport to the old waw maps to start or finish something in the story, :shock: this would be pretty epic

im going to look for that bench right now,..!

Thank you MMX, for putting that lurker in his place, although I doubt he read your reply, it's good to know you're ready to defend this community.

yes thanks MMX

sam not knowing her full power makes a lot of sense,

perhaps if their is a controller in origins they too havnt reached their full potential

or there could be no controlleras stated above, but I also doubt it, where do the powerups come from? theres a nuke in the apocalypse trailer at 3:23.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbxEV5gZtqU

good to see you here bud,..

Welcome to the wonderful world of CoDz!

You definetly should get the Rezurrection map pack. Especially if you haven't experience the WaW maps! Not to mention Moon itself is a very fun experience! Would definetly recommend it.

this and welcome to CODZ man, that zombie trilogy thread sure is something 8-)

welcome to CODZ, i'l see you around,..

Bloody good to have you here, welcome!

[Your name is SO much win]

thanks mate,

hello everybody, been kicking round here since blops2 release and finally joined this noble cause 6 months back, so i thought id tell you all a bit about my zombies experience so far,

that being said im relatively new to the zombies universe, my mate is old school zombies 8-) and decided to try and hook me upon the release of blops 2, he apparently succeded

cod is however not new to me, i have faithfully followed the franchise since its dawn, but i was never online so had no idea bout the map packs, so only ever had couple goes at kino, five and the waw nacht. i never realy got past round 10, never got more than 3 doors anywhere, oblivious to everything going on around me, i quickly gave up on both counts(waw and blops1) ruling them out to be bonus modes like waw, forgotten over time,..

until a fatefull day right before blops2 release, i ran into an old friend and got talkin, i was online by this time slaying multiplayers(mw2 got me online), so exchanged gamertags and later that night, smashed through a few mp maps on mw3, my mates not as good at mp,

so it wasn't long before he's like

"screw this man you got black ops" im like " :roll: of course i do" he's like "lets play zombies" im like "you can play that online?" he's like" :roll: of course you can"

so the disc goes in, "ive only got 2 maps mate"i say, he loads up kino, its seconds later and were in,..

i ask but one question "so what do we do" he begins to speak,..

several rounds later, he's still talking, ive been down couple times and yet, 'somehow he keeps getting me back up!' and then silence,..

he's finally finished telling me stuff.

a full round surely past, the information finally settles,.. "power, mystery, wonder, perk, teleportation, time travel, pap, thunder, monkey, traps, crawlers, training, story, maxis, 935, 115, mpd, soul swapping, richtofen, hidden songs, etc, etc,.." BANG mind blown,..

sadly i don't think i have ever fully recovered from that fatefull night, as now my most common feelings are :? :shock: :roll: ,.. not always in that particular order

so anyways nearly a a week later or sumtn transit was released, that's right, not blops 2 tranzit, playing kino with my mate opened my eyes, like throwing a handful of berley in the water to get the fish on the bite, soon as treyarch dropped that juicy lookin tranzit bait in the water, i gobbled it up hook line and sinker,..

for me tranzit is an unforgettable map, epic in its own proportions, this is where i learned everything about zombies, my roots will remain there drenched with the blood of keno..

the beauty of this, 4 years of maps, waiting and research all ripe for the picking, rezurection was an easy 1st choice to download and playing moon, shi no numa, der riese, verruct for the 1st time between dlc1&2 drops was amazing , cotd and ascension came next i still haven't played them much, only when im at me mates joint,.. now Shangri-la is the only map i still have never played or seen, he doesn't own this one, i was planning on leaving it for a rainy day,..

well guess what, it rained the other day but didn't buy the map(still avin it ) instead watched this trailer of it for the 1st time,..

wimoweh has been stuck in my head for a week so for old times sake,..

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYj8CZBtFes

wimoweh, wimoweh, wimoweh*shakes head* after this i got the rest of the trailers from the old maps, "ITS LIKE BEING A KID AGAIN" i just throw one good one in,..

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt_aQ85IWUc

having so much available was quite overwhelming in the beginning, but i can tell you all a few perspectives from a relative newcomer,..

- the old 4 characters are way more bad ass

- the n4 are good characters for their part of the story i like em

- all maps are pretty awesome and bring their own feel to the game

- with the exception of motd and possibly buried(rgmk2, petrifier(jgmk2), timebomb, big fella) blops 1 has a better variety of wonder weapons and gadgets

- the ee in transit should have been waaay bigger

- blops 2 feels smoother and nicer, like you've got a bit more sensory perception

- waiting for buses and elevators is sh*t but brings a nice challenging aspect to the game that can make or bbreak you

- falling off buildings is not funny

- blops 1 has a scarier feel

- every map released should get a obtainable meelee, primary, secondry grenade(gat-spork-redeemer)

- there are way more questions than answers to the story :? :shock:

- CODZ is a GOLD MINE of information and experience to learn from

anyways, during my 1st weeks in trazit i stumbled across a magical place filled with trolls(activision forums), as i strolled toward the outskirts of this magical place :roll: a mysterious voice(google ) directed me in the right direction, a direction that moves forwards, towards discovery,..

CODZ is where i landed, something of a crossroads in the zombies universe, a place where survivors and adventurers alike gather to exchange and share knowledge, experience and discoveries, while we navigate this maze that is the zombies story,..

this site truly is amazing with all the in depth thought out theories, guides, strategys and their colourfull contributers, hats off to all of you ladies and gentlemen, so thank you all very much,

Bloody good to be here,..