mallen23

Hey Norbert84,

Just to let you knowthat this was found out a while ago shortly after the release of the map pack on the 360 (from memory). In saying that, it is old news, however I'm not going to persecute you, so don't stress!

To my knowledge, you can only buy 4 perks in any combination, leaving the 5th perk that you don't purchase unattainable from the perk-a-cola machine. However, like you and your friends found out, you can still receive that perk through the power-up item that is dropped after successfully defending the Perk-a-cola machines during a monkey round on Ascension.

Here's video proof as well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tKOGkNkkA4

Anyways, I hope this helped

Mallen

Excellent dude! [brains]

I hope you don't mind, but I posted a link to your thread on my thread as a reference point for our cause. I started the thread Operation Ω, and the very first theory I posted with the thread was based around the idea of Sacrifice, or what I called Step Ω. If you have not checked it out, here is a link:

viewtopic.php?f=60&t=6464&p=66277#p66277

With the information that you have brought to us (the community and the people who are following Operation Ω), it somewhat confirms the Ω theory that was brought about in my thread. Now the only thing to do is to try it out and see how we go! I'll keep you up to date with what we have found and I thankyou kindly for your breakthrough. And don't worry, I did quote and reference you in my own thread!

Mallen (Ω)

Okay guys, sorry I haven't posted in a while, but here we go! Prepare to read a wall of text!

You want connections, I'll give you connections...

Step 1: Secure The Mechanism

Capture the generator using a Gersch device.

Step 2: Rain Fire

Activate the terminal, end the round, and monkeys RAIN down from the sky, and then you press 4 separate buttons.

Step 3: Unleash The Zombie Horde

Stand on the pressure plate and let the clock tick down, a nuke goes off and ends the round, unleashing the next round or 'horde' of zombies.

Step 4: Ascend from Darkness

Use the landers to collect letters and spell LUNA, HITSAM, and HYENA. The lander lets you 'Ascend'.

Step 5: Freedom

Use the specified weapons and shoot them into the Gersch portal, freeing Gersch from his cage.

The rest is just guesswork...

Step 6: Wield a Fist of Iron

Get the Death Machines and blow up the rocket with them.

Step 7: Raise Hell(AKA 'Sacrifice')

Activate the song, have an ally down themselves as they're jumping into a Gersch Portal,(This would of course take perfect timing. with the grenade) damaging Samantha somehow.

Step 8: Skewer the Winged Beast

With Samantha pissed off, shoot the Kassimir that's outside the map with all of the upgraded weapons used on the portal.

Who knows what happens then...

While the videos are definitely fake, "the handler" is not entirely out of the question (many good fakes take details from in game and expand upon them).

In Kino Der Toten, the square room just off the lobby (between lobby and speed cola/mp40 room) holds pictures of our four heroes. You can actually get your character to comment on the pictures. But there is a picture of a blank individual. I believe I have heard reference to others noting a "fifth" missing person.

Now, lets look at the 8 steps

1. Secure the keys.

2. Ascend from darkness.

3. Rain fire.

4. Unleash the horde.

5. Skewer the winged beast.

6. Wield a fist of iron.

7. Raise Hell.

8. Freedom.

Ω. Sacrifice. (added in through the theory above)

Now, remember that the level starts in Black and White...and the characters notice it themselves. While their lines cannot be entirely reliable (as Dempsey and others recognize the "Player"), it could also be cluing to "Ascending from darkness." Obviously, it is impossible to do the Easter Egg without the power, though it is possible to capture the generator and activate the power node in the junkyard (odd, given there is no power). Anyway, turning on the power, in my eyes, is "Ascending from Darkness" as we not only turn on lights and power, but go into color.

But, that being said, what if there IS something to the order of Vorkuta. Using what NukaColaClear said to start off:

1. Secure the Keys = Secure the Generator

The generator is Out of the map...you must bring it in map somehow...and we do! Any other Gersh device out of map is kidnapped by Samantha.

2. Ascend from Darkness = Turn on the power.

3. Rain Fire= Experience a monkey round.

The level turns red and orange...like fire. I know we can't do the whole "Monkey round" section of the Easter Egg (can we?) but perhaps we are meant to have patience. Resnov makes it clear that hard work and patience pays off in freedom (for mason) at the end. Instead of jumping to "go hit the switch in the junkyard" perhaps we should wait past a monkey round.

4. Unleash the Hoard

I'm totally lost here. I'm thinking have a zombie round too? Maybe unleash the hoard could be backwards, like sucking in the hoard into a Gersh device? I'm looking for revision here.

5. Skewer the Winged Beast= Shoot down the rocket.

I've always thought there was more than shear fun and a "x2" to the whole shoot down the rocket thing.

6. Wield a fist of Iron- Perk-Cola Machines buttons while defending against monkeys.

Reigning with an Iron Fist is a saying meant for a country or government that has zero tolerance for criminals. Defend all your perks WHILE hitting the buttons (anyone who has tried this knows its hard to do...especially if someone has Quick Revive...)

7. Raise Hell- Nuke the zombies on the pressure switch

After 2 minutes of waiting....why is there a Nuke? Is it to catch the sleeping player or the one who is taking too long to piss? Or will the nuke Raise Hell to the zombies? (or bring more from Hell as its next to impossible to do this with a running zombie....)

8. Freedom- Free Gersh from the Device.

I am combining the last two steps here. After the Pressure Switch, Gersh clearly says, "Okay one more" or one more step. Resnov clearly states that freedom is near and one step away (something like that...haven't done campaign since I beat it a while ago...). Following this...it is a sad conclusion as the sacrifice step may be the use of precious ammunition. Then again, as players are often completing this in the early 20's....ammunition isn't usually a problem.

It is also possible that LUNA=Moon=SAM. Follow my argument here. Gersh, in the same step, screams "Okay one more. Help me! LUNA!!" Luna in another post (and from my personal knowledge) is a Greet (I think...maybe wrong on that) word for Moon. On the moon there is definitely an outline of a girl sleeping. Whose our favorite Zombie girl? SAM!!!! Literally, Help me! SAMANTHA!!!!

Now, Luna is the keyword for his freedom.

So, is sacrifice the sacrifice of your ammo? or does it mean something more? Perhaps, during the last steps of freedom, something must be sacrificed before the final steps can be accomplished. I know from experience, it is possible for only 2 people to activate the final stage of Gersh's freedom, I have done it (one person with Crossbow/Raygun/Dolls, another with TG/Gersh). This leaves 2 more to sacrifice.

Still, you do give up a hefty amount of ammo as sacrifice. And it sounds cheesy....Perhaps like Cain from the Bible, a cheesy sacrifice leads to a cheesy reward (Meaning 90 second death machine after taking 10-20 rounds to free a guy) where as a "better" sacrifice will lead to a better reward?

Anyway, there is my thoughts on the matter...

Other ideas to consider:

1) What does "Hitsam" and "Hyena" have to do with this?

2) What about writing on the wall in Kino? (something about avoiding #6 and other sayings...)

3) With the blank picture in Kino...is there a blank Matryosha doll? (I know...misspelled, but this took forever to type and I'm dictionary lazy right now...)

4) I know of 13 batteries...are there 2 more I am missing making 15 (element 115...the 15 reference?)

Enjoy!

[brains] For you both! Excellent thinking.

However, I have found a thread from Johnny Reklaw (awesome find by the way dude!) in which NGT have linked the steps up already. So if you guys haven't already watched it, I suggest you head over to Johnny Reklaws thread and check it out!

http://callofdutyzombies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=7095

Now, there is one thing however that I don't agree with completely, and that is the lack of our step, Ω.

But, with a breakthrough in the coding by wonderboy_3856, it seems our theoretical step may become fully pledged. If you haven't already done so, please please please, check out this thread before you continue:

http://callofdutyzombies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7079

Within this thread (close to the end), this is mentioned:

Key items are distance from origin spot must be less than 90000 (vectors?), weapon muzzle point (aiming down sights?), player/weapon facing direction with 10 degree tolerance. Perhaps the player needs to go right up next to the gersh and ADS and then walk away. Or maybe if he shots it standing this close he will be the player that goes down and will be revived making players “valid” for reward. Notice the radius damage, seems to be significant.

Now there is more to it than this (obvious when the whole thread is read), but it appears highly likely that Step Ω is key.

So what can we do to progress further into this easter egg? Well test the theory out of course! As of now, Operation Ω Objective is to determine whether Step Ω, Sacrifice, is the next step, in correlation with wonderboy_3856s theory.

So try out what wonderboy_3856 has suggested, and lets solve this thing!

Mallen (Ω)

Ps, don't forget to post back with results guys and gals!

Okay so I'm relatively new to the COD franchise. And have recently got an xbox (first new console since PS2 8 yrs ago) and I'm terribly obsessed with figuring this thing out. Unfortunately I do not have a team, nor time to dedicate but I wanted to add a thought to this sacrifice theory.

I read somewhere (can't re-find it) that energy was needed for the 8th step, not "power"; when the monkeys explode they release energy. I don't know if it's even possible to survie it, but what about letting the monkeys steal all the perks and then kiteing/hording them into a group and capturing them with the gersh device? Possibly following them with a couple zeus cannon rounds to kill them.

I don't know I could be way off, but wanted to add some perspective.

Your post made me think of something.

Maybe sacrifice means letting the monkeys take all your perks, then go get the extended death machine to help you survive the next round.

That could unlock something.

Just a thought uhh.

hmmmm, that sounds highly likely... I have heard rumours that straight after the 90 seconds of death machines, it's a monkey round (every time). Can anyone confirm that? Because if it is true, it wouldn't be there for no reason and it would work with your theory

*EDIT*

Hey guys, just notifying you that the topic/thread has been renamed: Operation Ω - Solving the Mystery Man Egg. (originally: Step Ω: The next step to the Mystery Man Egg?)

I think it's fitting seeing as Ω = end, and I for one want to find the end to this easter egg!

Have a good one! Mallen.

Okay, seeing as the video is classed as fake, we can't use Takeo's date of death stated on the document in the video (unless anyone else has proof of it?). Which makes determining the date that ascension takes place somewhat redundant seeing as we were trying to match the date to Takeo's date of death.

NARROWING THE PATHS

Before I previously mentioned a theory that the steps taken for the Mystery Man easter egg were related to the steps featured in the campaign.

1. Secure the keys.

2. Ascend from darkness.

3. Rain fire.

4. Unleash the horde.

5. Skewer the winged beast.

6. Wield a fist of iron.

7. Raise Hell.

8. Freedom.

Ω. Sacrifice. (added in through the theory above)

I also stated that the steps may be out of order or they may not be (like a checklist). If potentially that they are out of order, and there is more than 1 step left, whether that be the theoretical step Ω or any of the other steps, there could be the possibility that the next step isn't actually the theoretical Ω: Sacrifice step, but one of the original 8.

A way of determining this is by establishing the connections between the steps taken for the easter egg and the steps from the campaign. So as an example:

6. Wield a fist of iron = the 90 seconds of DM

By doing this we can narrow down the potential steps that are left, and determine which is the next step to take. If someone would be so kind as to post the exact steps for the easter egg as a reply to this, it would be greatly appreciated as it would make it easier to make the connections to be made (A brain to the first person that does so). As well as that, if anyone has an idea on which steps may be connected, put it in a post below. Because we are trying to be as accurate as possible with this, you will need to give some form of validation of the connection (eg: During the campaign, step 6. Wield a fist of iron was when Mason acquired the Death Machine from the main armory to help the prisoners escape. The connection between this step and the step from the easter egg is that a DM was acquired in both cases).

So lets see what steps we can't find connects for and we'll go from there!

We're doing a great job guys and gals, lets keep the pace up and solve this!

I look forward to reading your posts on the ideas that you all have!

Mallen

I found the videos, I want to point out that even though these videos may seem odd at first watch all three the documents look way to well made to be fan made and it states that they were made with in conjunction with the creators of black ops.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxL-6jGWbm4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf12MVXb4WY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmZS1Ea6XAQ

Let me know what you think, remember look at Takeo's file he is the only one with a date of death.

Those videos are made by the same guys that made the "GKNOVA0/henry langham" story.

So sadly, they are just fan made. =/

Do you know if they were working in collaboration with Treyarch on this at least? Or are we back to square one on this theory? :/

VIDS ARE FAKE!!! VIDS ARE FAKE!!!! LOOK WHO MADE THEM!!!!! PLAYTHEGAME.CO!!!!!!

I'm unfamiliar with them, would you kindly fill me in on them and provide proof to your claim?

Dude, very nice theory. I had thought of all the steps being linked to the Easter Egg a few days before anyone posted something on the forums, guessed I missed my shot.

If anyone does try this with Takeo, and it doesn't work, why not getting downed in order of the Matryoshka Dolls exploding?

Like, if Takeo comes out as the first doll, have him get downed and then revived. Poping out of the doll = Being downed and exploding = Being revived. Then the same for the next three.

Does anyone have the order that they pop out of the doll and explode?

Thankyou and to answer your question I am not too sure, if we could get someone to record one exploding in HD and then slow it down to observe I'm sure it would be possible. Just a matter of doing so.

I found the videos, I want to point out that even though these videos may seem odd at first watch all three the documents look way to well made to be fan made and it states that they were made with in conjunction with the creators of black ops.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxL-6jGWbm4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf12MVXb4WY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmZS1Ea6XAQ

Let me know what you think, remember look at Takeo's file he is the only one with a date of death.

Nice find! [brains]

From what I saw, the date that Takeo's death was 12/08/76 (correct me if I'm wrong). So now all we have to do is track down the date that Ascension takes place. Does anyone have any ideas on how to do so?

As a test (just to pass time on this), if someone is going to try this method, try and get Takeo downed by the zombie you left from the round, and let him bleed out (try killing the zombie before Takeo bleeds out as well, that way you have Death Machines for the start of the next round, seeing as it will be 3 people holding off against zombies that would usually be up against 4 players, it will work as an advantage).

Also, to anyone else that has seen the video, did you notice anything else in the 3 videos that may be key to this easter egg?

I was reading something on the forums a few days ago and stumbled on a few videos, I don't know if you've seen them but in the videos there is a man reading all the files of the characters. Now what shocked me was the fact that Takeo had a date of death on his file? maybe that has something to do with your sacrifice theory. Ill try and find the videos and post them for you. Also there was another file in the bunch with a picture of a man blacked out and under name they called him "the handler" maybe a new character?

Awesome! If you do find those videos, be sure to post them here to keep people updated.

From the sounds of it, it is quite possible, the only problem is do we have a date for when Ascension takes place (or at least a rough estimation)? That way if it is Takeo that dies (Ω), we can at least check the dates to somewhat confirm it in the story line and then test it in a game of zombies.

HERE TRY THIS, i head that "After you get the Death machines you walk straight out the door and to the left will be two holes with a repair sign. Behind that is two tubes attached to a generator. You go behind that and shoot it with DM. It will move and get attached into holes. After you shoot it there is another earthquake and sam laughs? Trying to figure out what to do next and i will try to keep you updated! The red phones are now making the wind noise. Pressed all phones and got instkill then sam laugh"

try this after this what happens.

From what I have seen from others on the forums, this method doesn't actually work. If you can provide a video, or even pictures as proof I will reconsider my statement.

I didn't go exploring because even with Death Machines, we were still getting swamped, but I actually did this Easter Egg the other day with some friends and once we got back to our camp spot, one of my friends ended up going down. Sadly, the extended time of the DM resulted in him going down. We had a crawler and whatnot and traveled around the map to hit the box and all that jazz, but overall I never really noticed anything out of the ordinary.

Just my two cents. :3

There are a few possibilities here, firstly that being downed didn't do anything and this theory has been debunked already, or secondly that it did do something but the effect of it was overlooked, or thirdly the character that was downed was the wrong character (might be specific in who gets downed) and that another character or characters need to be downed. Without actually trying this theory instead of stumbling across sections of it accidentally, it would be hard to eliminate the possibility of it being the next step as there are several different combinations that can be used. Ie you may have to have 3 players get downed, and have the fourth revive them all or have 2 get downed and have the other 2 revive them.

I was thinking that if that is the case, then it would most likely be Richtofen (seeing as he is in the space suit) or Nikolai seeing as we're at a Russian launch site as they are the characters that differ the most, or are at a place that is somewhat home to them.

Do you remember which character was downed at the time?

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Welcome to Operation Ω

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*WARNING, THIS TOPIC DOES CONTAIN SPOILERS RELATING TO THE BLACK OPS CAMPAIGN*

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*EDIT* 11th Feb 2011

Hey guys, just notifying you that the topic/thread has been renamed: Operation Ω - Solving the Mystery Man Egg. (originally: Step Ω: The next step to the Mystery Man Egg?)

(I think it's fitting seeing as Ω = end, and I for one want to find the end to this easter egg!)

Have a good one! Mallen.

*EDIT* 23rd Feb 2011

Hey guys, major breakthrough! Check out my most recent post for details: Page 2, Post 46 (you will know which one it is once you get to it ). There are two major threads/links that I want everyone to read and go watch as it is essential.

I'll try and keep this thread updated as much as possible, however with University starting up in the next week, it may only be once or twice a week, but I will make an effort to!

Also, the thread name has been changed again! Operation Ω - "Victory cannot be achieved without sacrifice".

Take care, Mallen

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PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE THREAD TO SEE HOW THINGS HAVE DEVELOPED FROM THE ORIGINAL POST AND SO THAT YOU ARE UP TO DATE! THANKYOU

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ORIGINAL THEORY/POST

Hey guys/gals, I decided to make an account after reading the many theories on this website about the possible completion of the latest Ascension Easter Egg dubbed "Mystery Man", so I can make my own contributions to the effort in potentially solving this easter egg.

Before I start, for the people that don't know, Ω = omega

Anyway, I have seen a theory about relating the steps taken within the easter egg (as well as general steps taken within a game of Zombies) to the steps contained within the Campaign mission Vorkuta. These steps are as follows:

1. Secure the keys.

2. Ascend from darkness.

3. Rain fire.

4. Unleash the horde.

5. Skewer the winged beast.

6. Wield a fist of iron.

7. Raise Hell.

8. Freedom.

(NB: not all steps for the easter egg have been linked back to these steps, at least from what I have seen)

Now think of this, in the mission Vorkuta (which contains the above steps for the first time), at the end of the mission Mason achieves step 8, whereas our comrade Reznov, does not. "Victory cannot be achieved without sacrifice..." - Reznov.

What I propose, is that there is a step missing from the original 8. It is not necessarily Step 9, however an overall sub step contained throughout the original 8. I'm going to call it Step Ω: Sacrifice (so it isn't unnamed).

If you apply this to the original steps above, and the theory that the steps are related to the easter egg it becomes clear that at some stage a possible sacrifice may be needed in the continuation of this easter egg.

So overall, the theory being proposed here is:

The steps contained within the Black Ops campaign are related to the steps taken for the Mystery Man easter egg. However, they are possibly not in the correct order and there is a step/sub-step missing from the original 8, Step Ω: Sacrifice. The theorized steps are as follows:

1. Secure the keys.

2. Ascend from darkness.

3. Rain fire.

4. Unleash the horde.

5. Skewer the winged beast.

6. Wield a fist of iron.

7. Raise Hell.

8. Freedom.

Ω. Sacrifice.

(NB: may not be used in that order, think of it as a checklist more than a set of sequential steps)

Now, if Ω is the next step to be completed/ticked off, what needs to be done to do so? It could be one of a few things and the existence of the downed zombie players have left to do this easter egg may be the key to this.

Perhaps in order to complete Ω, a number of players (1-4) needs to be downed by the zombie all at once (so one gets downed, then another etc) or one at a time (so one gets downed, then picked up, then another player is downed etc). The reasons why I propose this are:

- It fits the description of Sacrifice (like how having the Death Machine fits the description of Wield a fist of iron, following the theory that the steps are related)

- I haven't seen anyone get downed during the 90 seconds of having the Death Machine

- I recall a glitch on Five that when a player was downed with the Death Machine and then revived, it lasted for an unlimited amount of time (highly unlikely that this were to happen in doing so)

- I want to contribute something, even if it does get debunked, we've eliminated a possibility.

So if a group of people are keen to try something new, Ω: Sacrifice may be something to try.

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CURRENT Ω OBJECTIVE: DETERMINING WHETHER STEP Ω, SACRIFICE, IS THE NEXT STEP, IN CORRELATION WITH wonderboy_3856s THEORY.

- What to test: During the section of the easter egg in which you shoot/throw the weapons into the Gersch Device, have the person with the PaP Thundergun go as close as they can to the Gersch, and ADS and shoot and see whether they goes down.

Key items are distance from origin spot must be less than 90000 (vectors?), weapon muzzle point (aiming down sights?), player/weapon facing direction with 10 degree tolerance. Perhaps the player needs to go right up next to the gersh and ADS and then walk away. Or maybe if he shots it standing this close he will be the player that goes down and will be revived making players “valid” for reward. Notice the radius damage, seems to be significant.

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Ω OPERATIVES

This section is for anyone that is looking for players to test Ω theories with or just to play games of zombies. These players are frequently on, so send them a message (or friend request) saying: "Seeking Omega Operative" and see if you can get a team together.

- iG_x_Monster

- Console/PC: Xbox 360

- Gamertag/PSN ID: "W H I T L 0 C K"

- Country: UK

NB: If you would like to be an Omega Operative, leave a reply below stating: "Requisition: Omega Operative" along with the appropriate details (same format as above).

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