JakeDuck

"They're waiting for the second coming again"

That probably means that the dead are waiting/ready to be turned into zombies.

"look to the skies to see the end of all creation"

There is 115 on the moon, so i guess that could that mean that 115 is bad.

Why is everybody comparing this to traditional zombies? I don't think I've seen a movie with a mystery box, wonder weapons, opening doors with points, nazi zombies..... I could go on all day. I don't think that Treyarch has to do everything by the undead book.

I swear I've heard of ISIS5SI5S somewhere, but I can't remember. I think it was about Shi No Numa, but I'm not sure. I think that I read it on the Call of Duty Wiki, though. I'll post if I find anything. :)

Here's the game over music on Kevin Sherwood's youtube channel:

The title is "Kino Der Toten Game over song", but the opening says "??????????????"

I've always thought that if they added pro perks, they wouldn't need to make more models for the machines while still giving us the perks. I also thought of some other perks.

New:

Carpenter Cider: Rebuild windows twice as fast

Pro: Rebuild two at a time, twice as fast

Price: 1000 Pro 2000

Lightweight Soft Drink: Faster movement

Pro: Aim down sights faster (Unlimited sprint seems overpowered, especially with the thief if he returns)

Price: 2000 Pro 4000

Steady Aim Tonic: Smaller hip fire radius

Pro: Faster stab and recovery

Price: 1500 Pro 3000

Old:

Juggernog

Pro: 25% more bullet and knife damage

Price: Pro 5000

Speed Cola

Pro: Faster weapon switch and no fall damage

Price: Pro 5000

Double Tap Root Beer

Pro: 50% more ammo in one clip rounded down, with no effect for single shot weapons (Extended mags type of perk, not more ammo)

Price: Pro 4000

Quick Revive Soda

Pro: Stay down three times as long

Price: Pro 3000

To signal a pro perk, the perk would get a Black X through it. The colors were for the color of the machine. If a perk is like Speed Cola and is a price over 2500, than it has a price of 5000. Obviously I do not expect Treyarch to put all of these in, because that would make 14 perks .

i believe at least 75% he did just finish play doa then some kino maybe some sort of glitch happened. he said the silverback killed the zombies and it kept running around killing zombies (all zombies were after it) and it just kills those zombies to me that thing sounds like a BIG GLITCH i dont believe that guy who played ascension though yes i am random

It's not a glitch, it's a lie. If you yourself didn't see it, how could you support it at all? If it stayed there and killed zombies, he would keep going forever. You said he came from the roof, how did he leave? Did he leave at all? What are you saying about Ascension? That you don't believe the person who (Possibly) played Ascension, but you believe your best friend? Besides, if the silverback fell from the roof, he would need an in game animation.

It's been extremely frustrating that this problem has been going on for a long time, with no acknowledgment from treyarch. With many other aspects of the game, they seem very responsive, but when it comes to zombies they ignore everyone, responding to nothing. I am extremely fed up with the wall of silence the zombie community has met from treyarch. I don't know what else to say. I am pissed.

I COMPLTELY agree. They are so obsessed with multiplayer that they don't even bother to fix zombies. They don't realize that the leaderboards are messed up, or the Five glitches need MORE fixing. I wish there was a theater mode for zombies, so they could wipe out the cheaters. The thing that sucks is, I've gotten to round 30 on Five with 3 people, but it looks like nothing because of cheaters.

It seems that we're getting screwed over here, because it took three times to register on the leaderboards that I got to round 26 (Yeah, it seems that I always die on round 26 with online. Go figure).

I think it's wonderful how you ignore everyone else and only argue with him.

So what are you saying? Do you want to be the center of attention and only fight? You only deny theories and fight about it. Have you ever agreed with any theory made by someone else?

Maybe maps with the Five characters will be in English and vertical, while classic maps will have German names, regular characters, and horizontal maps?

This is a good theory, but when a thief round starts, the person says, "Breach detected on level 3". However, this could mean that the thief will start at level 3 in the other map, and he teleported to the labs in Five.

He has not once refuted any claims by me or anyone else. He just ignores them. He hasn't showed how anything in his theory can possibly work with the glaring flaw of the age of the characters. I don't believe the thief means anything till he appears on a different map with the original characters. I have an entire thread denouncing everything that appears on Five as being part of the story.

So you're saying that the thief means nothing until another map. :roll: I would only assume that hellhounds meant nothing to you in Shi No Numa, but you actually gave them a thought in Der Riese when they returned, right? We still don't know much about Ascension, so let a few map packs come out first.

I wonder if the Thundergun in Numbers is related to the Thundergun in Five? This would all piece together pretty well if we could figure out the age difference between Clarke and the Thief.

I would say no....

Listen, FIVE may have Easter Eggs related to the main story. But first let's look up the Geography. FIVE is the Pentagon right? Well, how do you explain me that the lower floor is the Rebirth Labs at Rebirth Island?

I mean, an elevator take you from a place to another in the world? If it was the teleporter only to get down there I wouldn't say BUT an elevator?

HOWEVER, I agree that the Americans knew about 115 and were working on it, which goes ahead with theory that the Thief is trying to use the 115 into a weapon like the Germans did.

I was actually thinking of teleporting to the Rebirth Labs, but the elevator stood in my way.

I do like that theory of the Theif, because it would explain the Pack-a-Punch machine and wonder weapons everywhere.

This ENTIRE board has made quite a bit of noise about how Treyarch listens to the community and knows what the community looks for. They KNOW there are people like those on this board who take notice of details like Richtofen's picture from Kino. It is highly unlikely they would just copy the texture knowing that we would be all over noticing how it was the same picture. While it is easy to just copy over the texture, it isn't like Treyarch is short on money and needs to cut those corners. Saying that Five has NO connection to the story is nothing short of ignorant. It would be the same as saying (when it was released) that Verruckt had no story. It's there, you just need to give it some time for all the clues to be found.

While Five may not be the MAIN story, there are some clues to help build the background and give you a heads up that the zombie outbreak has spread to the rest of the world.

THANK YOU!! This people, is someone who understands what Treyarch is doing.

[brains] for you!

EDIT: I just remembered the triangle. When teleporting in Der Riese, you can see a triangle. In kino Der Toten, you can see a triangle on the chest in the metal staircase by no-clipping. In Five, you can see it on the mystery box screens and in the teleporter.

I HIGHLY doubt that the triangle is reused. I will keep my eye out for it in Ascension.

Basicly the same type of map as Der Riese, with rain, Thief (I like the challenge ), no nova gas zombies, same type of linking and paying for teleporting as Der Riese, and split paths. More/Pro perks would be awesome (Juggernog pro anyone?). A set mystery box spawn would be nice to add, because I'm sick of it moving.

I loved Der Riese obviously, it was a good map. :D

Actually, I found a seventh fuse box. I don't have a camera to take a picture, but it is pretty easy to see and get to.

In solo, stab two zombies and open the fire pit door. In front of you where the fire comes out, there is some type of grey wheel. look down at this to see some black cables. Follow the cable to the right and you'll see a red fuse box on the floor. even though it's on the floor, it's still the same.

No theory on the fuse boxes now, but I still think they have some type of connection (No pun intended). :lol:

Then it mean nothing. What the heck is the part of it being a game have to do with anything?

It's just a game, so you can do what you want.

Besides, it is called Black Ops; there are a lot of secrets at the Pentagon.

Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPH7H1hTMmI&feature=related

Shows nova six logo on canister, obviously creating creepy crawlers.

The video also shows the rocket in the random room in kino.

Don't see a logo of 935 in this one, but it does show some pretty neat stuff.

I'll be sure to post if I find the logo.

By the way, about the test facility, as I said before:

IT'S A GAME! :facepalm:

I've been looking into September 1945, and it looks like Japan formally surrendered at Tokyo Bay on September 2, 1945 during WWII. I look into Verruckt so much because it is such a unique map.

Anyway, here are some I tried:

samantha:

mrmonkey

monkey

mother (No mention of one as far as I know)

flytrap

drmaxis:

diegloke

sophia

wunderwaffe

tdempsey:

oohrah

ura

dieglock

wonderwaffle

juggernog (seems like his favorite perk)

That's all I've got for now. Hopefully we'll get it soon!

*Just noticed that I forgot to add for tdempsey:

freakbag

freaksack

meatbag

meatsack

freakmeatbagsacker

Yeah, i think that there are too many names to try. :lol:

935 WAS in America. in a certain video I saw of a no-clipper, he found a 935 logo on the wall in a window near a teleporter. I'm pretty sure it was the one in the corner to the left of the elevator.

If instead of Five they made a map along the story, we might miss something in Kino and be as blank as new players.

Five is a filler plus America's side of the story.

Say instead of Five they made a map with the main story. If you played that map before Kino, You may find something that would not make sence without knowing what is in Kino.

For a new player, they would not know what 115 is, because they would need SNN and Der Riese to learn about it.

Five shows that zombies are in America. This is the only way that zombies could be in Area 51.

Five shows that Americans had the Thundergun, Raygun, and Winter's Howl.

Five shows that Group 935 was in America.

Five shows that Group 935 oporatives (Maxis tunnel radio in Der Riese) were in America before Der Riese took place.

Five shows that more teleporters were being made.

Before you decide that Five shows nothing, wait for easter eggs to be discovered. Treyarch said that they havn't all been found.

Just wait for more info.

I don't think that the characters in Five are meant to be important. I just thought that Five was the way to show us the American side of zombies. Really, Five had to be a filler and a part of the story. It would get to be pretty boring if we only had Kino Der Toten and Dead Ops Arcade. If hunters for parts of the story went to a map that takes place after Kino before finding the story bits included in it, there would likely be a lot of confusion. Imagine being new to Call of Duty, Knowing absolutely NOTHING about Dr.Maxis, Der Riese, ect. Then imagine yourself finding the song (115). You would think "What the heck is 115?". That is what people would think if a second map were released, but they only played the second. You could think of Five as a spin-off, or split in the story, still showing information. If people say, "I want two zombie maps in DLC, not one and ___ multiplayer maps!", we can get one loaded map with story bits, plus a split.

Yes, five in not completely in the Main story, but it is still a part in the story.

I apologize for the long post, but I want to be clear.

Remember: Verruckt is the only map to show a date. Verruckt took place in September, 1945. So for Dempsey's password, try something like banana45 or verruckt1945.

Remember the other Marines Smokey and John Banana

Most of the passwords tested don't have numbers in them, but there is a huge amount of numbers in Black Ops to chose from.

The thing is, it is not junk. Five shows possible origins of the Winter's Howl, the Thundergun, and the Death Machine. It also shows that the Americans were testing the Raygun.

I'm sorry for being unclear now that I read my post again, but I meant to say that the box, teleporters, perks, ect. are gameplay mechanics, but they are important to the storyline. They return often just as boards and posters do.

The Winter's Howl seems to be tested and possibly created in the pentagon also. Sure they might have been reusing an uncommon weapon, but the Winter's Howl is in Verruckt too. This leads to other possible theories of time travel or some connection with group 935, considering Verruckt takes place in 1945.

(Just an off topic random theory here, but Hudson recommends an important person and date as a password in the terminal, so experiment with 1945 )

Just to say if they were experimenting with 115 and something went wrong and the element got out and if it was in a room with a bunch of scientist and an explosion happened or something of the sort and the element got to the bodys it would zombify them and then the zombie outbreak would start. right? then if there was a meeting under way it would be up to them to fight off the horde once all the guards had fallen to the zombie horde.

There wouldn't be tests during a meeting. No explosion could occur. To the others, as I've stated countless times, Ritchofen's portrait is a reused texture and the teleporters are a test for future teleporters. Why do you guys staunchly believe a couple of politicians will be important to the zombie storyline? It makes absolutely no sense for these people to meet in the circumstances they did, it breaks common logic for how a government is run, an it is overall a stupid idea for a serious story. None of the characters even seem truly concerned about zombies. They're making jokes about their history whenever they even reference them or just out right insult them. Nothing in the map gives the characters any interest in the zombies.

Yeah, nothing is more serious than an American war lover, an alchoholic Soviet, a Japanese man obsessed with honor, and an insane German fighting Nazi and Japanese zombies in factories, swamps, theaters, asylums, and abandoned buildings.

Plus, why couldn't they have tests during a meeting? So the people that worked down there needed the president to run tests? Why is your explanation "reused textures" for any theory? The mystery box is reused, but it IS important! The regular characters insult each other all the time! Dempsey seems pretty laid back to me when he's fighting.

Who really cares about how the government is run in this?

IT'S A GAME! :facepalm: