Ragdo11706

I mean it kind of makes since. We have 3 parts that form the "Apothicon Servant", as well as 3 Quotes for the "Upgrade_Ready" Quote.

So what if depending on what part you get first leads to which quote you receive. Who really collects the XenoMatter before collecting the other 2 parts beforehand. This could be the, "Zoroth Orotha" Quote, that know one seems to ever be able to achieve.

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The only thing I don't understand, if you haven't completed all the "Sacrifices" by the time you build the "Apothicon Servant", once you begin the Ritual, you almost immediately get the "Upgrade_Ready"  as soon as the "Keepers" get near you.

I never touch the Pods either, until they've all become Purple, seems like the most logical way to play.

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I'm definitely going to have to do some testing on whether or not leaving the "Heart" for the Final piece, will in fact cause the XenoMatter to spawn faster.

Maybe we're supposed to leave the "Heart" for last. Considering we have Traps that use a "Beating Heart" as well as "Gateworms" that have a "Beating Heart". 

What if, once we Kill the Margwa, the "Heart" stays "Beating" for the remainder of the Round, & if you fail to build the "Apothicon Servant" that Round, or fail to have the other 2 items at your disposal, this is your PONR. 

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This could also explain why Treyarch added the (Hold X to pick up...) Option, as opposed to the way it's done in Der Eisendrache, where you collect the parts like every other drop.

@Conzul

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Does leaving the Margwa Heart, actually affect the rate in which the Pods grow & Xenomatter Drops. 

I wonder if that could possibly be what causes which "Upgrade_Ready" Quote we receive, since "Zornash, Na'Orruja, Zornash" is the most common & chances are we more than likely grabbed the "Heart" from a Margwa that spawned at an Altar, after the second Ritual.

7 hours ago, Exactice_808 said:

Going to BUMP this post,  Bahamut is Deadly for a specific boss kill, To me its way better than the Ray Gun due to the damage you receive.  The PAP Drakon will make mince meat out of the Panzer and you can spam the hell out of it against the keeper.

Especially with the Evo Dot site, Fast Mags, Rapid Fire, & Double Tap 2.0. 

Damage wise, hands down the best weapon in the game.

6 hours ago, Exactice_808 said:

PS if you do a solo unranked and complete the EE do you get the completed challenge?

I'm not sure, I always end up dying during 1 of the 4 circles for the Keepers Spirit, simply because of the stupid ass Hell Hounds spawning in 3 at a time & having to run back and forth to see what Bow I need, then having to go grab it & making it back to the circle.

@Exactice_808

Thanx man.

As long as your playing Solo in a Ranked game, once you get to the "Ghost Keeper" phase, you'll only have to use as many Bows as there are players unless you've upgraded more than 1. 

It only affects unranked games whereas the game registers people can Jump in & out. However, I feel like on Local, this shouldn't be an issue for Solo. Being you can't have people jumping in & out.

20 minutes ago, JJMFP said:

$120 dollars a month just for internet with only 15mbps download and 2mbps upload.  RIP OFF!!!!! 

I looked them up.  I can see why you don't.

 

Exactly, and I'm pretty sure where I live it's 10⬇ 1⬆, for the exact same price.

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Does anyone know in the most recent patch, being they fixed a ton of shit & fine tuned a lot of different things, if maybe by chance they fixed the Solo offline Quest.

@JJMFP

Unfortunately no, the only thing I'm able to get at the current moment is Hughes Net. Which I've heard a lot of BAD things about.

3 hours ago, floppercopter said:

honestly i dont mean to sound insensitive but. its 2016 bro u need to get yourself some internet i know guys in the middle of the alaskan wilderness with high speed cable lol not hatin i know people have complex situations and finacial issues but if u want the best z experience your losing out heavy man with the addition of the gobblegums and the new patch meaning u can spin it more then once your really at a disadvantage anyway please dont take this the wrong way  just sayin there are a couple ways to get internet even in remote or obscure places happy huntin homies and be safe out there!

Where I live at, Internet is not available, except for Satellite, and it's limited to like 10gb per month, with a d/l speed of 5-10mbps & an upload speed of 1mbps for $125/month.

That's purely a rip-off and simply not even worth it. I can afford it, I'm just not that desperate, as I don't need Perkaholics to take me to Round 100+. I've been doing that just fine for years now.

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 So even though it's 2016, you would be surprised at the number of people who literally don't have internet access, because of where they live, cable companies don't want to spend all that money running Cable Lines for a hundred people or so. 

14 minutes ago, Bigyayay said:

yah I was sort of thinking treyarch got lazy and reused quotes then again i only did the easter  egg twice.

 

I don't think it's laziness on Treyarchs part, more of them leaving breadcrumbs of this Created "Apothicon Language" they made up specifically for this DLC Season & more importantly, the "Apothicon Servant Upgrade Quest".

That Weapon seems like it's going to play an important role in the Final DLC, as I said the entire Language is based solely around it.

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Watch in DLC 4, we end up getting the "Ancients Apothicon Servant" & that's the one we can do the Upgrade Quest on. Then that'll be how (we) Richtofen & Co. defeat the "Apothicons".

30 minutes ago, Bigyayay said:

did anyone try to translate the quote the boss is saying in the der eisendrachen?  I feel like it is saying the same quotes in shadows of evil or it is saying random apothican language

I know one of the Quotes the Boss says, is "Zoroth Orottha". Which is the exact same quote as "Upgrade_Ready_0".

A lot of the other stuff he says I coudnt make out, that one in particular stuck out like a sore thumb.

20 minutes ago, Akito said:

Did anyone notice these eggs in the boss arena look exactly the same as the Arch Ovum from shadows ?

Did anyone notice I've been saying for Months now, the "Arch-Ovum" is the "Cocoon".

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But too answer your question fairly, when @Rissole25 first revealed that image I said the same thing and people thought I was trippin'.

Yea, I believe the only time you have to repeat the first Time-Travel, is if you fail to enter the Code correctly upon entering it for the first time.

20 minutes ago, NaBrZHunter said:

He launches over to the castle, yes. :D Remember, Panzers fly. ;)

Yea that's what I was thinking, just a lot of people made it out like you could just run away from him.

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I'd rather just kill his Panz-y ass...

If you run does he spawn back at the castle or no?!?! I've always just killed him as soon as I spawn back in as I have learnt exactly where to aim and don't worry about killing the Zombie.

@Conzul

I think it is all relevant my friend, as I believe come DLC 4 the "Apothicon Servant" is likely to play a huge role in the outcome of the map.

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Obviously the deeper we get into this, the larger role the Archons & Apothicons are going to play.

I wouldn't be surprised since Der Eisendrache was heavily influenced by "Keepers", The Island will be heavily influenced by Apothicons.

Hopefully, this is when we will also start to begin unraveling some of what is known as, "Keeper Language".

15 minutes ago, Nieno69 said:

@Ragdo11706 are you sure the game itself doesnt Show you which bow you need? A shaded color will lit up... (blue ,red).... in the screen if you enter the circle at the keeper

Keep an eye open for that 

Yea but what I'm saying is, for example. 

First circle is Purple, ok well I'm definitely not holding that, so now I've got to make my way back to the Undercroft, grab the Void Bow, make my way back to the circle and kill. 

Next Round starts, I have to follow the Keeper to whichever Circle he decides to go to, we what color that is, go back to the Undercroft, grab the correct Bow, and make my way back once again & kill.

Third Round, now I've got 2 Bows to choose from, either I'm going to get it right or wrong guessing. Either way I've got to go back to the Undercroft grab a Bow, hope it's the right one and find the Circle.

All of this while 3 Hell Hounds are biting my fucking ankles the entire time, it's just ridiculous. Even with Stamin-Up you hardly out run them.

I would suggest getting the Drakon out the Box and using Double Tap 2.0. You can kill the Panzer in 1 Clip when you come back. Giving you plenty of time to avoid killing your last Zombie.

I would also suggest keeping the Drakon band PaP it to become the Bahamut, as I believe this to be the strongest weapon against the Panzer & Keeper Boss. Make sure you have the Evo Sight attached & not a Scope. Lastly I would use the Alternate Ammo Type, Dead-Wire.

Good luck, I hope this helps.

1 hour ago, ZombiesAteMyPizza! said:

Why do you feel the need to do the easter egg each and every time you play, though? A typical Eisendrache solo game for me (even though I've only done a few proper ones) is get the storm bow, get wall weapons with Dead Wire and then get to the highest round I can/can be bothered to get to. If you pursue a lengthy easter egg each time you play, I can see how that'd get boring.

Because I want to complete it before the next map becomes available. For me that's the main thing I go for, once that's been achieved then I'll worry about trying to hit 100+ on said map.

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Not too mention how satisfying it is to actually complete the Main Quest on Solo. The only thing that's giving me trouble is having to trade out the Bow, go find the next one figure out which one I need, going back and grabbing it, then going back to the circle.

@Conzul

Fixed. Funny enough the majority of those symbols correlate directly with one of the 4 names of the "Apothicon Servant" with the exception of a couple. 

Like why is this, and what do those symbols translate to be, as opposed to the more compound words involving at least 3 of the Symbols.

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We're you able to find any correlation between any of the "Keeper" Names/Statements.

13 minutes ago, Nieno69 said:

Upgrade all bows should be the easy step... So your Problem are the dogs and get the kill for the keeper...

You need to stand inside the circle and kill Zombies with the bow- they dont need to are near you/ in the circle themself ...so all zombies you kill while standing inside the circle count ...

I never use more than 4 perks because you dont need them...

Use alchemical if you have trouble during this step and just shoot like hell....

I dont know how much you need to kill but in all my games the keeper only change Position when a round ends...

With alchemical this should not be a problem anymore...

 

Haha brilliant, I completely forgot about Alchemical Antithesis for using the Void Bow & The Spirit Bow. I'm normally so damn focused on getting Danger Close, I don't worry about any of the other G.G.

I guess if I had internet and could use better G.G. than the crappy Classics they allow you to use, I would be more accustomed to actually using them. I believe I average 1 maybe 2 per Game.

10 minutes ago, Nieno69 said:

But you can get all bows and and keeper rounds about round 20-25... 

You dont have to wait for the rocket to dublicate zombies?

I think it's to complex to do 4 bow steps together with one person... how should the game know what it should do? (Drop a symbol for void or collect souls for dog / firecircles)...

For the running back & forth... doesnt the game Show you which bow is needed offline?... 

 

 

You have to use all 4 Bows offline. If your not following the Wolf then you should be collecting "Apothicon Symbols". If your not standing in one of the Fire Rings or near an Electrical Urn you should be collecting "Apothicon Symbols". Honestly it's a very simple fix they could easily implement into the game.

Waiting until that late in the game is hard offline as you don't have access to but 4 Perks, and most of the time Widows Wine is not one of them. The Hell Hounds is what makes it hard, because they begin spawning in 2 & 3 at a time every time you kill one. 

The Void Bow is what I find to be the Hardest because the rate in which it kills is terrible. Also I may be doing the step wrong, but do you have to kill every Zombie that round in the circle with an Upgraded Bow, or can you get kills using other weapons as well. That's probably what kills me the most, trying to constantly use the Bows.

22 minutes ago, JJMFP said:

I used to play with a friend that used his cell phones hotspot to play.  Granted, it was not the best connection, but it worked rather well for a while.  Have you explored this option as a now and then solution to the problem???

I feel your pain

Yea I've thought about it, I just wasn't really sure it would work on Current Gen. I'm also sure my Hotspot would be limited to 4gb or 8gb, how long would that actually last though.

So as we are all well aware in Der Eisendrache, you have to Bind to a specific "Bow Upgrade Quest".

While this may work in Co-Op, I find it rather redundant & VERY time consuming on Solo.

Seriously it reminds me of SoE where in Solo you could carry all the Ritual Items & Gateworms, except in Co-Op, it was dependent upon who actually picked up that specific item. That was until the most recent patch where they made Co-Op use the same shared inventory.

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Why in the F**K didn't Treyarch make this same change for Der Eisendrache, especially on Solo. I know to most people it don't matter because you play Online.

However, for someone like me it really sucks, and honestly I can't stand the Map. Every game is the exact same, acquire 7,500 points by the end of Round 3, save 1 Zombie and begin doing the Rocket Pad exploit, for the next 3-4 hrs upgrading every single F*****G Bow.

Then to make it to the phase where you Summon the Keepers Ghost, to die by the mass amount of Hellhounds that can bite you in the ass 5x in less than 2 seconds, because your too busy running back-n-forth trying to figure out which Bow you actually need next.

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Seriously I don't even know what to think anymore, I used to be the biggest fan (& I still am) it's just sad that now unlike previous titles the Internet is a requirement to actually enjoy the Game Mode (Perkaholic... Easier Easter Egg...).

On 2/5/2016 at 4:59 PM, Ragdo11706 said:

 

 I'm pretty sure this pertains to "Keeper Language" although were not certain of the Translations as of yet, there's a distinct difference between "Apothicon" & "Keeper" Language. 

So in Shadows of Evil we acquired 4 "Archon Swords" or "Keeper Swords" once we finally cleansed ourselves from our misdeeds. Now I'm not 100% sure on this but I feel as if the names may actually be the names of the Specific "Keeper" we Summon, in order to defeat the "Shadow Man". Until we have a better understanding of the Language itself, this is a safe bet.

The names of the "Keeper Swords" are as follows;

 

• Kreesaleet la Ahmahm

• Kreelasha lu Ahmkhaaleet

• Goahlo lu Kortahn

• Shaitahn lu Kreemahogra

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So after the events at Griffin Castle, where we uncover the "Wrath of the Ancients", we learn of 4 more "Keepers" or 4 New "Keeper Phrases".

Those of which are as follows;

 

• Storm Bow - Kreema'ahm la Ahmahm
• Spirit Bow - Kreeholo lu Kreemasaleet
• Earth Bow - Kreeaho'ahm nal Ahmhogaroc
• Void Bow - Kreegakaleet lu Gosata'ahm