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  1. We don't really know the damage to Earth, or why we had to use that egg? How did teleporting that egg make the explosion any bigger?

    Anyway, this is what I believe the intention was.f

    Richtofen wanted to control the entire world. Since Maxis was dead, and he realized what happened to Sam, he decided to give a final f u to Richtofen.

    When you are filling up the jars it says something like "something much darker than you lies here". Basically, if the world is destroyed Richtofen will be forced to spend eternity essentially trapped in his own mind. He's already going crazy, so he will be stuck in that pyramid for ever, going crazier, and crazier, with nothing to do about it.

    I don't know if anyone watches Bleach, but here is an epic scene (sorry if you don't like that it is in Japanese), but if you watch you'll see that it's exactly what Maxis does to Richtofen. Eventually Richtofen will be begging to die, and won't be able to. He'll go mad, and be tortured for ever, and ever.

    GbZU946O7g8

  2. It can spawn in the starting room, leaning up against the closet type thing where you first grab your suit.

    You can also find it out on the moon, as soon as you exit the doors from the labs onto the moon there will be a section of barrels to your right, over leaning against them you can find the wire.

    It can also be found in the labs. They can be under any one of the tables that the hacker spawns on, it can also be found in the corners of the rooms, of just laying on the floor. It is sometimes laying on the staircase, leading to the third floor.

    Yes, Richtofen can hold both the wire, and the rod, there's no reason why he wouldn't be able to?

  3. And drinking one makes you immune to fall damage and can also explode while diving to prone?

    Seriously, have you ever tried diving to prone? Off a staircase? Now imagine exploding.....the characters are mostly males.....just saying....

  4. I've been trying it with my friends recently (bless your soul if you have the patience to work with mic-less randoms) and we finally got all the way to Step 7 (or whenever you put the rod in the computer). We put the wire in and Richtofen walked over and held X. Nothing happened. Take this as a warning to anyone, you cannot finish the EE unless you do the CotD EE and Shangri-La EE. That's not a rumor. And then we went to do Shangri-La's, and we died before getting the Shrink Ray. D:

    Actually it's because you did it wrong.

    If you HOLD X NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. You need to keep tapping the X button, as if you were typing on the computer, if you stop, or hold x, he'll stop typing, and the dialogue will pause.

    I know this because I'm always Richtofen, and while I'm at the computer some idiot lets the one zombie come and attack me, I have to turn, kill it, turn back to computer, and continue where I left off.

    Only 1 person in the group has to have both CotD and Shangri-La. If NO ONE HAS IT, YOU WILL NOT SPAWN WITH THE ROD!

  5. There is an annoucement over the pa type system that tells you an excavator is going to breach the "bio-dome". Then all you have to do is make it to the spawn with the hacker, one way or another, before it comes all the way down, hack the terminal, and it goes back up.

    If you fail to do that it becomes a no gravity, and thus no oxygen zone.

    Lastly, only 1 person can have the wave gun, much like the wunderwaffe, or thundergun.

  6. Interesting indeed, I finally just listened to all the radios, it's pretty crazy that they had all they set up before Richtofen attempted to kill Maxis.

    Maxis then used his daughter to "kill them all". Crazy shit. Richtofen accidentally teleported them to the moon base.

    Here's the question though? How did the device get there to begin with? Or where was that device? Because I don't get where they teleported to that they took the device with them up to the moon, or if it was already there they would've teleported and died? They didn't make it, because they didn't know how it worked, and Sam locked herself in it?

    Very confused about that part?

  7. Here is a bad one...

    Guy playing as richtoffen didn't have his heart in it. Get to that later...

    Trying to fill the 4tubes n my q e d doesn't splode just make python drop, my random who actually gave a damn grabbs it, f'ing up his set-up. Then when we get guide rich through all the steps, bout to give this guy like 200more gscore he quits, all he had to to was hit x on the pyramid we could do the rest and he... Well that was 3+ hrs lost though we were lucky everything done by 15. Rich even traded in gerches for q e d s dummy.

    I've completed it twice with randoms, and never with people on my friends list, ha.

    Anyway, I hate people who quit, it's ridiculous, not to mention that it seems like the majority of the randoms are REALLY REALLY BAD, and don't have mics.

    I don't understand it. Why are people so horrible at this game? I don't want to sound cocky, but maybe I'm just really good? Because other people just seem to be so god damn horrible.

    I try to find a lobby, and am lucky if I get people who make it past 10, even luckier if somehow they all got to 15, at least....god damn.WTF

  8. I don't think Richtofen was the one who was teleported, I believe that was Scheuster?

    It's from his teleporting to those areas, that gets Richtofen interested in that. As to the pyramid on the moon, I don't really know why that's there, how it got there, how Sam got in it, how Maxis ended up in the computer?

    I'm really quite confused on that, but regardless, the zombies are not an alien virus, it's from 115 exposure.

  9. Yeah, I've seen those. But I never tried to get those powerups before. Something also got brought to my attention. I wonder if its possible to Hack the Red Max Ammos/Perk Bottles or hack the Bonus Points power ups. Probobly not, but has anyone ever tried? I think I am gonna look into that.

    I believe you can hack those.

    I can confirm that you can hack the bonus points, in my last game we hacked the pap, the someone threw a qed, and we got the points, and I had the hacker still out, and it was going to let me do it, but someone grabbed it.

    Don't know what it turns into, but I've gotten those drops from zombies also, so I'm going to take a bet and say they turn into max ammo.

    I'm also going to guess that you CAN hack red drops, however, it probably will screw you over

  10. whoever asked about a perk bottle, you can't hack anything into a perk bottle.

    Everything turns into max ammo, except max ammo which turns into fire sale. However there are perk bottles that can drop randomly, from qeds, or spawn in the dome ceiling.

    • [*:346yo4hm]It can also give everyone a random perk, without spawning a perk bottle.
      [*:346yo4hm]It can spawn MORE zombies. Watch out when doing the EE, if you have a crawler, it can all the sudden spawn in a ton more zombies.

    With getting a perk, we used one to move the things from quick revive to the computer, and everyone got quick revive. There was no bottle, or zombies around (so it's not as though we may have missed the bottle), and everyone got the same perk.

    When I have some time I'd be interested to see if using them on a specific perk machine, gives, and or takes away, that perk from everyone.

  11. I can also confirm this as my friend was lagging after the egg, he was host btw and I wasnt lagging

    Sorry, but that doesn't confirm anything.

    The game doesn't drop by 83% fps because of the ee. I've completed it, and that doesn't happen. Just because you can say he was host, and you were not lagging, doesn't mean that the ee is causing the game lag.

    If you can explain to me what in the game causes the lag because the ee is complete, please tell me? As that doesn't have anything to do with the connection? All it does is gives you all the perks (assuming you're talking about the 100pt Easter egg) and changes the zombies eyes, and voice overs, which were already programmed in, and the game already loaded, so it WOULDN'T effect the connection, and lost packets AT ALL.

    Unless your friend dies every time you complete some other Easter egg, the astronaut spawns, you have a dog round, the their comes, the box moves, you play a radio, a monkey steals your perk, the round changes, etc....because those are all events programmed into the loaded game too.

    So sorry, but the EE does NOT cause a massive frame rate lag, and the fact that your friend was lagging confirms the fact that his connection sucks, not the ee causes lag, because that doesn't make sense on a technical level.

    But why would he be hardcore lagging while we as people connected to him would be playing like if we had 4 bars? Plus when the zombies stopped spawning he would stop lagging. Im guessing that the EE causes a slowdown for the host because usually the people connected to the host lag instead of the host himself

    That is NOT TRUE.

    He's the problem, if the person who is the host has a good connection with the other users, but has a low mbps with his connection, it will cause the other players to be able to play as if it was an excellent connection, but he will play horribly.

    If you only play zombies you may not know this, however, there are a great deal of people who HATE BEING HOST online multi player, because they have a great connection (to the internet), and the other people have a crappy slower one. Although there are no dedicated servers, and the host and players have to connect, it still has to go through the internet to get to one another.

    What ends up happening, is that other players can kill the host much easier than the host can kill them. The host ends up losing bullets, showing up as not firing their weapon on the kill cam, etc.

    Most people think that host is some great benefit, not the case. It depends not only on your connections to the players, but the overall connection to the internet. If the packets traveling FROM the players to the HOST do NOT get lost, they will register, however, the HOST when trying to SEND packets out, has them LOST, they will not register, and therefor it will actually suck to be the host.

    When I am playing at my own house, and not my girlfriends, I will pull host 90+ percent of the time, due to my internet, however, I have multiple xboxes, laptops, pcs, an alarm system, a security camera system, a wii, nintendo ds, and any number of other connections, routers, etc, connected to my network. So while although xbox may favor me getting host, I time after time quit games because of bullshit, and see "host migration" as I quit, because other people are benefiting from my end's bad packet loss, but my good internet, so they have barely no packet loss.

    Same is true with zombies. It just isn't the case that the ee causes a 5/6percent loss in frame rate like you claim. As I stated, can you please explain to me, in a programming sense, how, and why, that happens?

    Nothing really substantial changes in the game? I tried to illustrate that by showing that a dog round, or spawning in the cosmonaut would be a change in something, but you're just playing the game with everything the SAME as before the ee, except for a change in eye color, and instead of playing one voice over, it plays another, which is as simple of a code segment as follows:

    if ee=not_complete then{

    play_samantha_voiceovers

    else

    play richtofen_voiceovers

    }

    and that code segment would be in place the ENTIRE GAME. Since it would check every time you did something that had a voice over, every box, etc, etc. Nothing would change except it would choose:

    play_samanthabox.wav or play richtofen.wav

    Not a big deal considering the processing power of the xbox.

    So please, explain to me, using programming, and technical examples, how the ee is causing you to drop from 60fps to 10fps........

  12. I can also confirm this as my friend was lagging after the egg, he was host btw and I wasnt lagging

    Sorry, but that doesn't confirm anything.

    The game doesn't drop by 83% fps because of the ee. I've completed it, and that doesn't happen. Just because you can say he was host, and you were not lagging, doesn't mean that the ee is causing the game lag.

    If you can explain to me what in the game causes the lag because the ee is complete, please tell me? As that doesn't have anything to do with the connection? All it does is gives you all the perks (assuming you're talking about the 100pt Easter egg) and changes the zombies eyes, and voice overs, which were already programmed in, and the game already loaded, so it WOULDN'T effect the connection, and lost packets AT ALL.

    Unless your friend dies every time you complete some other Easter egg, the astronaut spawns, you have a dog round, the their comes, the box moves, you play a radio, a monkey steals your perk, the round changes, etc....because those are all events programmed into the loaded game too.

    So sorry, but the EE does NOT cause a massive frame rate lag, and the fact that your friend was lagging confirms the fact that his connection sucks, not the ee causes lag, because that doesn't make sense on a technical level.

  13. If you shoot a monkey at the right time you get a perk bottle, additionally you can get a perk bottle drop.

    However, if you hack ANY drop except Max Ammo, you get a max ammo, if you hack a max ammo you get the firesale.

    Lastly, the QED can randomly give a perk to all players, regardless of how many perks they have, and they will all get the same perk.

    All proven through experience.

    Care to add that to the wiki page? :)

    QED device is such a pain though and pretty much makes the co-op egg the way to go if you want more than one perk.

    I thought the QED just cycled trough the effects as you hold it, because I threw 3 QED's right after each other and I held them all for the same time and all of them made a big wave that blows the zombies away.

    Not true, it randomly does one of a few things. It can randomly give all players the same perk, it can also give you a new gun, spawn a turrent gun, it can explode like the astronaut, a frag, a spikemore, etc. It can also spawn more zombies, make the astonaut on your team, etc, etc

  14. Yes, you must be connected to xbox live.

    Here's why. Myself, and mygirlfriend can play on split screen, with 2 seperate xbl accounts, however, only ONE of use has bought the map pack, ME. So it's not going to give you the 200+ gamerscore if you have players "piggybaccking" off the map pack only someone bought.

    You have to be on xbl, or you have to have ALL players PURCHASE the map pack on their OWN accounts, or it will NOT work

  15. If you shoot a monkey at the right time you get a perk bottle, additionally you can get a perk bottle drop.

    However, if you hack ANY drop except Max Ammo, you get a max ammo, if you hack a max ammo you get the firesale.

    Lastly, the QED can randomly give a perk to all players, regardless of how many perks they have, and they will all get the same perk.

    All proven through experience.

  16. Who do you think is the most morally "evil" character?

    Samantha:

    She was just a little girl who happened to end up zombified, although affected differently from 115 (like our four "heroes") and ended up controlling the zombies. She appears to only have been using the Zombie outbreak to get back at Edward for what he did to her father, and even so, through the songs, it appears that she still had a split personality. She had her childlike side, the part that played games like the fly trap, made dolls of the characters, and used her toy boys to literally "toy" with the characters.

    Dr. Richtofen:

    He intended to kill both Maxis, and Samantha, and one could say it was his actions alone that brought on this whole ordeal. However, maybe things would've ended up this way regardless, via the American 115 experiments, or other 115 members, only without Sam playing the roll she did. He apparently performed operations on the other members of the group, and tricked them for a number of years so he could gain the ultimate power, that he realized Sam had accidentally become the controller of.

    Dr. Maxis:

    Sacrificing the entire human population (for what we're led to believe) so that he can force Richtofen to live in an eternal hell for what he did to himself, and Samantha. Richtofen wanted the power so badly that he brought on all of this, the murder of Maxis, the end result of Sam, and he wanted to use that power to take over the world, apparently. If there are no humans left, there are no zombies left, and any zombies that are left are already under his control, he loses everything, and will be stuck "losing [his] pride" in "something much darker than you", as Sam says while Richtofen is filling the 4 canisters.

    If you had to judge one of the three for the most immoral who would it be? Maxis gaining revenge for the suffering of his daughter? Samantha for not fully knowing what she was doing while having her personality shattered, and the "darkness" overtaking her? Or Richtofen , while clearly a skitzo, knew all along what he intended to do?

  17. Interesting, although I've already heard a good deal about this. Depending on the situation the same scenario occurs with slight variations in "conspiracy theory" websites, and such.

    A good website to check out would be project Camelot, as they have a great deal of videos on the subject. The Nazi's, and Germans were certainly into some odd stuff, and were fascinated with the occult.

    Treyarch did a good job of incorporating a lot of the occult stories into the Zombie story line, and even the weird Nazi science, such as the Nazi Bell, which is believed to be a Casimher mechanism, by some.

    The Nazi Bell is "Die Glocke" (german for "The Bell") Not the mechanism. Its also called the "Wunder Waffe". It is a theoretical Nazi "weapon" that supposedly used for anti-gravity stuff, while controlled in a stone structure (think "Fly Trap"). I dont know much about it, just some basics. In short, the "Nazi Bell" in Zombies is the precursor to the "WunderWaffe DG2" (DG=Die Glocke)

    As for the little story connections, thats pretty cool, I might look up more on that sometime.

    The fly trap is the alleged area where the bell was attempted to be used. The shape is based off of a real location, although I forget the name of what the area is currently called.

    Although there are different theories about what the bell was, some believe that it was a casimer mechanism, which can be related to anti-gravity because the casimer effect can essentially "levitate" objects. It can cause repulsion between two uncharged objects (objects that are not magnets).

    One alleged shape for the Nazi bell is similar to the shape of the casimer mechanism found on Ascension. It would be two metal bodies separated by a fluid, perhaps a liquid metal, and the bodies rotate.

  18. There is no other Earth. When I completed the achievement there was no Earth at all, and then it blew up, and it was only an overlay on the sky, that same overlay was present at Area 51 in the same area of the sky, and there was no Earth there either.

    There is no second Earth. Simple.

    Sorry for the bad quality, I had to rush to get this because it wasn't until we launched the rockets we realized that there was no Earth:

    HW6QnSKLogc

    It looks different than the other videos where you can see the blue of Earth, with the overlay. This proves that the sky glitches out, but the effect stays, and that effect was exactly the same in Area 51, without the Earth there too.

    To show you, here is a video of what it should look like when the Earth doesn't glitch out of the sky:bZzafZnt8Kc

    Notice the difference?

    If the skies were different, wouldn't you think the Earth visible from the moon, and the Earth visible after blowing it up, at Area 51, wouldn't BOTH glitch out on the SAME game. Maybe one of the graphics glitched out, but what are the odds both did, in the same game?

    It proves that they are the same graphic, which would be illogical if we blew something else up since the moon and Area 51 would have to be equidistant from the object we blew up. That wouldn't make sense physically, explain to me how the moon can orbit the Earth, and the Earth and the Moon can be at an equal distance from a third object? That would only work if it was a triangle rotating around some other point in space, however, that would make it impossible for the moon to orbit the Earth.

    Again....there is only 1 Earth....we blow it up....it's just a graphical glitch...

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