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anonymous    330
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In the beginning, and believe me there was a beginning, everything was in its proper place. Time was linear, just as it should be. But a little thing called Element 115 changed all that. Especially when, what was it again? Oh yes, when Group 935 came along. Once they started messing around with it, they buggered everything up. 115 shouldn't even exist in your dimension! But, nonetheless, here we are! Bloody teleporters.

In the beginning, time was linear. There was actually only one universe. Note that universes are different things then dimensions. There were more dimensions, probably always been: The first dimension (1D), the second dimension (2D), our dimension (3D), the Aether (4D) and the negative dimensions. So there was only 1 3D universe. A mysterious element called 115 somehow came in our thirth dimension (it might be that the Apothicans sent this, seeing the Apothican worm sending a 115 meteorite though a portal) and it was found by several nations: Russia, the US, Japan, but most importantly, the international Group 935, mainly led by Germans. "To improve human condition", they started experimenting with 115, causing the universe to split. Especially when Dr. Richthofen created his "Matter Transphere Device", a.k.a teleporter. Non linear parallel universes were created: The multiverse, or omniverse, or however you call it.

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Once Element 115 came along, the Apothicons weren't far behind.(...)

Apparently, this creation of the multiverse had some effect for the Apothicans. How, I do not know. But that might be a reason why the Apothicans send 115 in the 3th dimension. It somehow freed them.

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Dr. Ludvig Maxis:  Though our matter transference tests at the new site have been largely unsuccessful, the teleporters malfunction has nonetheless yielded some interesting data.  The fact that the test subjects depart from their original point of origin is undeniable; what is uncertain is what became of them. Richtofen is insistent in his belief that they have been transported not through space, but through time.  In the absence of empirical evidence, I myself cannot entertain such... madness.  I fear Richtofen's irrationality may soon prove a liability to our endeavors.

This radio shows us the discovery of the capability of the MTD's. The teleporter doesn't only replace you from place to place (though space), but also though time. That might be a reason why the parallel universes began to bleed into each other. Note that the text from this radio in BO3 is also in the Die Rise intel in BO2. The only difference is that "Doctor Richthofen" is replaced by "Richthofen".
 

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"Alright, so you got this universe, this big, changing, already volatile universe, and then you shatter it with a hammer. A metaphorical hammer. And it cracks and splinters into a million other universes. All coexisting at exactly the same time.(...)

This gives you a metaphor of the creation of the multiverse. The hammer stands for the experiments with 115, in particular with the MTD's.

 

 

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Dr. Maxis: Reality itself is shifting… I find myself reflecting on memories I am no longer sure are my own.(...)

 

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Reality or Dream it is becoming harder and harder to telll. (...)

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MY NAME IS PABLO OR AT LEAST I THINK IT IS OR WAS I DONT KNOW ANYMORE I HAVE BEEN LOCKED AWAY HELD PRISONER IN THIS CELL FOR MANY MONTHS BY GERMANS SCIENTISTS THEY KEEP EXPERIMENTING ON ME PUMPING ME FULL OF SOME BLUE LIQUID I THINK IT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REPEATED VISIONS I HAVE BEEN HAVING WHICH I SWEAR LOOK AND FEEL REAL. (...)

Reality and dream? It is hard to tell. Remember memories that didnt happen. Visions from another life of you? These are effects of the universes bleeding into each other. They remember things that they did in other universes.

 

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But the universe, is deeply unstable right now.

Yeah Monty, we know. So because of the linear universe splitting up in parallel universes, this whole multiverse becomes unstable. Maybe that's what the Apothicans want. Maybe an unstable universe will give them the opportunity to consume it. Just a thought.

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Maxis... he was the first. The vessel you constructed for him back in World War I somehow shielded him from the influence of Element 115. He opened the portal between the worlds and, well, that's where and when shit really went teats up. The world within the world got turned upside down and inside out - if you could imagine such a thing.

Not sure what vessel is meant here. Perhaps the music plates that open the portal to the crazy place? And ow I love it that he says "the world within the world" here. He means Agartha! The Aether (Agartha) is apparently also affected by the cracking universe.

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You all fought in World War I, whoopee! You're badass heroes. That was true, that happened. Later, some others versions of you ended up as lab rats in some crazy World War II experiments, experiments that left you a bit...kind of...not that smart. Your memories were mostly erased and you just kind of bumbled and stumbled around in time and space, oblivious to your past and future actions.(...)

Again a radio about the false memories of the characters about another "version" of their selves in another universe.

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You need to stop thinking in terms of originals, old and new, it's not like that. When you look in the mirror it's still you. If you crack that mirror you see multiple reflections, it doesn't mean you've actually multiplied does it?

Ahhh I can't explain that better, Monty.

 

This is how I see these radios. This is what I think is happening in the zombie storyline. What do you think? And how do they save the universe in Revelations? The Apothican Sun implodes, but how does that set all things right?

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Smok3y    42

A really well thought out piece and just want to say thankyou, its been a while since the forum imploded. Good to see some good material to mull over! Brains for you!

 

In regards to the 'vessel' was this simply not the device maxis brain was placed into to fly about in?

 

In regards to the end of the EE, i presumed that the apothicans were banished back to the dark aether on the basis that if they could have been destroyed entirely they would have done that the first time round?

 

Possibly we are yet to find out why it is Richtofen that has to track down the summoning key, surely Monty knew of its existence and possibly where or how to find it?

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anonymous    330
5 hours ago, Smok3y said:

A really well thought out piece and just want to say thankyou, its been a while since the forum imploded. Good to see some good material to mull over! Brains for you!

 

In regards to the 'vessel' was this simply not the device maxis brain was placed into to fly about in?

 

In regards to the end of the EE, i presumed that the apothicans were banished back to the dark aether on the basis that if they could have been destroyed entirely they would have done that the first time round?

 

Possibly we are yet to find out why it is Richtofen that has to track down the summoning key, surely Monty knew of its existence and possibly where or how to find it?

Ah yeah, now I read it again, I think with vessel is indeed meant the Maxis-drone. And if the only thing is happened in the end is the banishing of the Apothicans, the universe would be still splitted, or parallel. The "mirror" would still be cracked. The problem of the bleeding universes Monty talks about is still not solved. I too hope the comic gives more info. But I think if we dig deep enough in the game, we'll find an answer.

14 hours ago, ZombiesAteMyPizza! said:

And there was me thinking this thread was going to be a fellow Brit with a complaint of some sort about the functionality of the teleporters :sad:

 

Jokes. Hopefully this triggers some discussion, clearly a lot of thought went into this!

Hahaha, no, if you want a scientific explanation how Matter Transphere Devices work, ask @NaBrZHunter or @AetherialVoices:P

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NaBrZHunter    491
On 11/11/2016 at 8:55 AM, anonymous said:

Ah yeah, now I read it again, I think with vessel is indeed meant the Maxis-drone. And if the only thing is happened in the end is the banishing of the Apothicans, the universe would be still splitted, or parallel. The "mirror" would still be cracked. The problem of the bleeding universes Monty talks about is still not solved. I too hope the comic gives more info. But I think if we dig deep enough in the game, we'll find an answer.

Hahaha, no, if you want a scientific explanation how Matter Transphere Devices work, ask @NaBrZHunter or @AetherialVoices:P

Good days...I miss them. :) Every hovering, I am, beyond the Aether.

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InfestLithium    520

I hate how so many people go over these wonderful Monty quotes. I'm glad you pulled them into context and brought them into the light, because they really do explain a good chunk of what we need to know about the whole universe fiasco.

 

As much as it pains me, would we now accept that Origins (pre-EE of course, the technical true version) is from the original universe? The way Monty says that the future, alternate versions of the crew would later get involved in the WW2 experiments has me believe that the WaW universe actually wasn't part of the original - in fact, the events that occurred at The Giant's Der Riese facility would be the one with Group 935 first breaking the universe. That makes WaW's Der Riese facility just another alternate version of that time period.

 

And thus, Samantha's intervention in Origins would being breaking a cycle, or better yet, changing the outcome of the future.

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10 hours ago, InfestLithium said:

I hate how so many people go over these wonderful Monty quotes. I'm glad you pulled them into context and brought them into the light, because they really do explain a good chunk of what we need to know about the whole universe fiasco.

 

As much as it pains me, would we now accept that Origins (pre-EE of course, the technical true version) is from the original universe? The way Monty says that the future, alternate versions of the crew would later get involved in the WW2 experiments has me believe that the WaW universe actually wasn't part of the original - in fact, the events that occurred at The Giant's Der Riese facility would be the one with Group 935 first breaking the universe. That makes WaW's Der Riese facility just another alternate version of that time period.

 

And thus, Samantha's intervention in Origins would being breaking a cycle, or better yet, changing the outcome of the future.

What I still think is weird is that Origins takes place in 1918. Later, the testsubjects would be captured by 935 and so in WaW/BO1 (around 1945, because Nikolai has figured in Stalingrad and Dempsey in the Pacific, so somewhere in WW2) they would be around 55 years old. And I believe Richthofen has some grey hair, but further they still seem pretty young and full of energy to me.

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anonymous    330

@ZombiesAteMyPizza!

So I have done a bit of investigation, and I have a thought how MTD's might work.

Step 1: The MTD creates a black hole, which makes a crack in that universe. As a side effect: Everything gets sucked into the black hole.

Step 2: In the middle of a black hole, there is a point of singularity: A point where gravity is infinite. The singularity can rip the universe apart. Now, the singularity begins to grow and form an universe itself.

Step 3: The new universe grows and grows more. It literally feeds itself with the matter of the old universe and for that, the new universe looks the same as the old one. (This is why, when using the teleporter in E.g Der Riese or Kino, the place you teleport to looks exact the same as the laboratory/theater you left.)

Step 4: The old universe is sucked empty and therefore it breaks apart is dies.

 

This theory is pretty controversial, but at the moment, I don't know any better explaination. Off course, the travelling between parallel universes (such as with the Summoning Key, the Aurora Borealis and more) have other explainations. This theory is purely based on the teleporting with MTD's between location and times, not between 2 coexisting universes.

 

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