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[2016] My thoughts on Infinity Ward & Venturing into Space...

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Abel!    17

I have no idea to start this topic. I am sure many have already discussed about this particular idea in greater depth than myself, so this post will be just be another knock on the door. Ever since gaming began we've had an abundance of 'Space era' games, and that is good because it is something truly fascinating to develop on. 

With last gen consoles and (yes) that also includes PC, big games like Mass Effect, Dead Space, HALO, and even Star Wars had a great run in last gen, however looking back, excluding Ghosts, Call of Duty stuck to their boundaries and never truly ventured space. Black Ops: Moon was a good effort. And looking back, they seem very preserved on pursuing the idea. A lot of attention has been given to games like Elite: Dangerous, Star Citizen, No Mans Sky, Beyond Earth, and then eldest titles will eventually renew themselves. Since Call of Duty is known for doing whatever the market tells them to, then there is no need to question its inevitability, whether we get a space game this year 2016, next year or in 2018.  Infinity Ward touched on 'space warfare' briefly-but-beautifully in Ghosts. Visually it looked astounding and I don't think I will ever forget the first mission, despite the rest of the game taking a very boring turn afterwards. 

To be frank with you, as consumers we have been spoiled with too much, over-the-top, thrust-pumping, house-vaulting, high octane advance warfare-ing... The past two years have been very overwhelming and it has took a toll on my expectations for 2016.
If venturing through space is their plan, It would be interesting to see Infinity Ward take on different dimensions covering, space travel, tight corridor shootouts, strategic environmental twists, different angles of tactical combat, the latter. A more relaxed Call of Duty is what I hope for. It would be very interesting seeing myself play through a campaign set in a modern, tension-filled 'space race' between opposing countries and experiencing this story propel itself to an eventual 'Space Warfare'.  And by the time a war is a'lit, you then realise you and your team of explorers are not alone in the vastness, and your ship is suddenly endangered by forces you can't be protected from, like Pirates... Infinity Ward do not necessarily need to take the traditional, militaristic angle to their game this time around. You don't need to make everyone a 'Woods' in order to make it a Call of Duty, that's for the player to decide. But I guess it's all subjective. I find being an astronaut with basic military experience, with no perks, being forced to protect yourself with basic weaponry, leaves the Player more vulnerable, yet on edge. It makes for more intense battle sequences. 

For multiplayer, I'd love to see  slow & intense, pirate/spaceship raids. I should really expand on that but I seriously cannot be arsed...too tired.

What are your guys opinions on a 'Space-like' Call of Duty? You were probably expecting it. You were probably expecting someone to bring it up again. It's a shame I had to do it... What are your aspirations for next games? Do you think we will perverse other planets? Colonize Mars or some sh**? What about Extinction?  What about our extinction?! Didn't we like, blow up?!

 

 

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TimelordAlex    52

I dont buy any COD that hasnt got zombies, so they can take it wherever they want. I however would like to go back to the cold war era from BO1 for another 3arc title, but that probably wont happen, thats easily my favourite COD for both MP/Zombies and Campaign is not bad.

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Abel!    17
8 minutes ago, TimelordAlex said:

I dont buy any COD that hasnt got zombies, so they can take it wherever they want. I however would like to go back to the cold war era from BO1 for another 3arc title, but that probably wont happen, thats easily my favourite COD for both MP/Zombies and Campaign is not bad.

Apologies for the post not being where it should be, in the Infinity Ward section, and anyway I get you. Something in my gut hearkens to  "space warfare" this year,  and that's not because I just came back from watching The Martian...If Treyarch chose to depart for space. They will have to be completely original about it, [well] or at least semi-original about it.  I would love them to go back to an alternative Cold War era, where technology is thrice ahead of its time, and that would make going back to experience the "space race", a lot more thrilling, macabre, and more importantly would revamp their series. 

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5 hours ago, Abel! said:

I would love them to go back to an alternative Cold War era, where technology is thrice ahead of its time, and that would make going back to experience the "space race", a lot more thrilling, macabre, and more importantly would revamp their series. 

I would not want that, i dont want to play the cold war with exo suits or boost jumping. Quite frankly I'd take a HD remake of BO1 and new maps added for MP and Zombies to fit the theme, everything else can stay the same.

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You know what my thoughts on the next Infinity Ward game are?

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I had my fun on Ghosts, the campaign was absolute garbage. The MP was not that bad, I have to admit. Extinction was garbage after Nightfall, not sure whose dum idea Mayday, Awakening and Exodus were and I honestly never want to see the face of IW again. What I really want is for IW and SH to cooperate and work on a game together, which is unlikely but the last two Call of Duty's were abizmal compared to the glory days which literally ended with Black Ops 2. Black Ops 3 is an awesome game, but if another bad IW game comes out next year then it is going to leave a bad taste in peoples mouths and give the game a bad name again, with people saying "its the exact same game" which it was with Ghosts. So much was wrong with it, was a reskin and was in all honestly basically MW3. I cannot stress enough how bad I don't want them to make a game. I want them to either work with SH to make a good CoD, because there ideas together could actually amount to something. Or I want them to just remaster a game or something. If I have to deal with IW doing some stupid space gibberish. No, I won't. I will gouge my eyes out. "Oh but you don't have to buy the game." Really? I didn't know. But I want to buy the game. I want it to be good. I did have my enjoyment on Ghosts. I truly did, it is where I met some great friends and it was the best time of my life. But I do not want to have to buy an IW game, hoping for the best and either it being bad to begin with or me growing to utterly despise it. Basically, they need to get into gear or else I will be utterly heartbroken that IW cannot redeem themselves.

I really needed that vent, thanks for making this post, you raise some good points about a space title and I think its the direction CoD could go in, although I do not want that. I really want a break from CoD. Not me saying I don't want to play it. I want more to spent making these games. The quality shows, just look at Black Ops 3. Call of Duty is in a dangerous place where it can really go bad or good. Activision really need to give the game a break and let it make a comeback so that it does not become the next FIFA.

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Abel!    17
2 hours ago, Nightmare Voyager said:

You know what my thoughts on the next Infinity Ward game are?

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I had my fun on Ghosts, the campaign was absolute garbage. The MP was not that bad, I have to admit. Extinction was garbage after Nightfall, not sure whose dum idea Mayday, Awakening and Exodus were and I honestly never want to see the face of IW again. What I really want is for IW and SH to cooperate and work on a game together, which is unlikely but the last two Call of Duty's were abizmal compared to the glory days which literally ended with Black Ops 2. Black Ops 3 is an awesome game, but if another bad IW game comes out next year then it is going to leave a bad taste in peoples mouths and give the game a bad name again, with people saying "its the exact same game" which it was with Ghosts. So much was wrong with it, was a reskin and was in all honestly basically MW3. I cannot stress enough how bad I don't want them to make a game. I want them to either work with SH to make a good CoD, because there ideas together could actually amount to something. Or I want them to just remaster a game or something. If I have to deal with IW doing some stupid space gibberish. No, I won't. I will gouge my eyes out. "Oh but you don't have to buy the game." Really? I didn't know. But I want to buy the game. I want it to be good. I did have my enjoyment on Ghosts. I truly did, it is where I met some great friends and it was the best time of my life. But I do not want to have to buy an IW game, hoping for the best and either it being bad to begin with or me growing to utterly despise it. Basically, they need to get into gear or else I will be utterly heartbroken that IW cannot redeem themselves.

I really needed that vent, thanks for making this post, you raise some good points about a space title and I think its the direction CoD could go in, although I do not want that. I really want a break from CoD. Not me saying I don't want to play it. I want more to spent making these games. The quality shows, just look at Black Ops 3. Call of Duty is in a dangerous place where it can really go bad or good. Activision really need to give the game a break and let it make a comeback so that it does not become the next FIFA.

A lot was wrong with Ghosts, the slow paced multiplayer, the boring characters, the boring campaign. Extinction was a good, unique and challenging attempt and I'd applaud them for that. Infinity Ward aren't scum though... A lot can happen with a three year dev cycle, past doings can be learned from and it won't hurt for the community to be a bit optimistic about these things. I think there is a lot wrong with Black Ops III too, I haven't particularly liked the way they've made their Zombies map, Shadows. The map is packed with too much (unnecessary) elements, Margwas, the cocoons. the way they have aligned Pack'a'punch; the map does not give you time to think. And all of this, believe it or not, to mostly adhere once again to the YouTube community. Treyarch haven't done anything to revitalize the franchise as the formula is still the same since MW...  

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Abel!    17
4 hours ago, TimelordAlex said:

I would not want that, i dont want to play the cold war with exo suits or boost jumping. Quite frankly I'd take a HD remake of BO1 and new maps added for MP and Zombies to fit the theme, everything else can stay the same.

Exosuits & boost jumping? Me neither. I just want barebone'd astronauts with gravity pulse guns, abandoned ship raid/battles and with gravity being detrimental to the way you navigate through gameplay... Damn I guess a simple man like myself can only dream.  :thirst48:

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15 hours ago, Abel! said:

Exosuits & boost jumping? Me neither. I just want barebone'd astronauts with gravity pulse guns, abandoned ship raid/battles and with gravity being detrimental to the way you navigate through gameplay... Damn I guess a simple man like myself can only dream.  :thirst48:

That isn't Call of Duty anymore though. I mean, it is a really awesome idea for a game but it isn't Call of Duty.

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Imagine a MP map in space though! They could do it in BO3. Just replace large parts of the map with slower water physics but don't let anyone drown. SO MUCH FUN!

But yeah, PERSONALLY I hope we go back to WW2, but get control over tanks, bi-planes, and other cool things in multiplayer and campaign. It re-vamps the experiece, and shuts up everyone complaining about wanting to go back to WAW. 

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Abel!    17
1 hour ago, Nightmare Voyager said:

That isn't Call of Duty anymore though. I mean, it is a really awesome idea for a game but it isn't Call of Duty.

That part will, can and needs to change.

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7 minutes ago, Abel! said:

That part will, can and needs to change.

No it will not and should not change. It might as well be another franchise then. That is honestly the stupidest thing anyone has ever said to me.

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Abel!    17
2 minutes ago, Nightmare Voyager said:

No it will not and should not change. It might as well be another franchise then. That is honestly the stupidest thing anyone has ever said to me.

Why do you think it's stupid? ... And why wouldn't you want the franchise to evolve into something greater than it is? The game is called 'Call of Duty', it doesn't say 'Twitch knife, slide, prone, thrustkick, thrustjump, Twitch Shooter', does it? 

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Just now, Abel! said:

Why do you think it's stupid? ... And why wouldn't you want the franchise to evolve into something greater than it is? The game is called 'Call of Duty', it doesn't say 'Twitch knife, slide, prone, thrustkick, thrustjump, Twitch Shooter', does it? 

Call of Duty is a legal term describing the necessity to carry out a job or duty, such as a police case, military assault/wartime actions, or other military or highly important jobs.

 

If you want to make a new franchise, do. It is NOT Call of Duty anymore if its space pirates.

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I like a ww1, ww2 or cold war COD the most, but IF Call of Duty will go further in the future next game, I would like a space-themed game more than a future-earth-themed CoD like AW and BO3.

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1 minute ago, Stop Mocking Me0 said:

So..... Destiny.... 

This is why we should be able to keep pressing like and never stop.

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Abel!    17
2 hours ago, Nightmare Voyager said:

Call of Duty is a legal term describing the necessity to carry out a job or duty, such as a police case, military assault/wartime actions, or other military or highly important jobs.

 

If you want to make a new franchise, do. It is NOT Call of Duty anymore if its space pirates.

Then neither is Black Ops III if it centers around the idea of entering some 4th dimension... If Treyarch can make a COD based around something bizarre sounding as that then I can make a COD about space pirates on the edge of a space-race... 

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41 minutes ago, anonymous said:

I like a ww1, ww2 or cold war COD the most, but IF Call of Duty will go further in the future next game, I would like a space-themed game more than a future-earth-themed CoD like AW and BO3.

I like you. Got any good ideas?

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18 minutes ago, Abel! said:

I like you. Got any good ideas?

Thanks, if I have ideas for a future space themed Call of Duty?

Well, personally I think that a cold war in space would be better than a big war like ww2 and ww1 in space.

Like you said, a spacerace would be cool, America, Europe and Russia are building spacebases though our solar system, and at the other side China and India.

It would be a sneaky war, from which the most people on earth very less know, like the Cold War.

And yes, there could be independent "pirates" who are at nobody's side but who still cause a lot of chaos.

And very important, don't make it too sci-fi like star wars.

The spacecrafts should look like in this century, without lasers, super fast engines and stuff.

Still large, slow, vulnerable spacecrafts. (with some smaller things like spaceshuttles)

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16 minutes ago, anonymous said:

Thanks, if I have ideas for a future space themed Call of Duty?

Well, personally I think that a cold war in space would be better than a big war like ww2 and ww1 in space.

Like you said, a spacerace would be cool, America, Europe and Russia are building spacebases though our solar system, and at the other side China and India.

It would be a sneaky war, from which the most people on earth very less know, like the Cold War.

And yes, there could be independent "pirates" who are at nobody's side but who still cause a lot of chaos.

And very important, don't make it too sci-fi like star wars.

The spacecrafts should look like in this century, without lasers, super fast engines and stuff.

Still large, slow, vulnerable spacecrafts. (with some smaller things like spaceshuttles)

I find the most interesting aspect about it is how navigating in space with a big astronaut suit, gravity making your movements slow and being cautious of how you move, to it being unpredictable, really interesting. And using thrusters to prevent you spinning out of control. This part will probably be unlikely to happen in Multiplayer, but it would make for a very tense moving campaign experience. In the case of 'sides' or 'alliances' forming with countries, I still believe that each country is out to infiltrate eachother nonetheless (for instance; hired pirate raids).

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3 minutes ago, Abel! said:

I find the most interesting aspect about it is how navigating in space with a big astronaut suit, gravity making your movements slow and being cautious of how you move, to it being unpredictable, really interesting. And using thrusters to prevent you spinning out of control. This part will probably be unlikely to happen in Multiplayer, but it would make for a very tense moving campaign experience. In the case of 'sides' or 'alliances' forming with countries, I still believe that each country is out to infiltrate eachother nonetheless (for instance; hired pirate raids).

Yeah, it would be pretty cool with the gravity being different, just like on the zombie map Moon.

This could be outside, while the normal "earth" gravity is inside a spacebase.

 

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19 hours ago, Abel! said:

Then neither is Black Ops III if it centers around the idea of entering some 4th dimension... If Treyarch can make a COD based around something bizarre sounding as that then I can make a COD about space pirates on the edge of a space-race... 

It is actually about cybernetics, a neural interface and their applications to both the military and Black Ops. BO3 is more Black Ops than Black Ops 2 as well considering its plot has striking similarities to the first Black Ops. Your argument for what pirates in space has to do with Call of Duty, well you don't have one. If you can link it to what Call of Duty fundamentally is, fine, but if not then it isn't Call of Duty.

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1 hour ago, Nightmare Voyager said:

It is actually about cybernetics, a neural interface and their applications to both the military and Black Ops. BO3 is more Black Ops than Black Ops 2 as well considering its plot has striking similarities to the first Black Ops. Your argument for what pirates in space has to do with Call of Duty, well you don't have one. If you can link it to what Call of Duty fundamentally is, fine, but if not then it isn't Call of Duty.

You have misunderstood. This post centers around the gameplay aspects of being in space and what it can add to Call of Duty, and you are arguing with me about the fundamentals of previous games. Your argument is petty. Every franchise has the right to progress and change its "fundamentals" , unless you weren't aware of the drastic change between Modern Warfare & World at War.  As for 'space pirates'... You are pretty much spot on mate. You have completely established the fact that a game about Space Pirates has nothing to do with Call of Duty. But my idea isn't about a game about pirates. I merely touched on the idea of  pirates and thought, with the added tension between different alliances from Earth,  using them would make up for a good plot device portrayed as cloak & daggers.  Whether or not they're actually independent pirates searching for raids, or a gun for hire, are not any of my concern. The tension is still there.   Why can't you grasp this?

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