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4 hours ago, AlphaSnake said:

For those that don't know Milo now has the full language.

I'm concerned by the fact that he hasn't released it to the community yet.

I would think that Jason gave it to him with the idea that he would share it with everyone.

Regards Alpha.

 

 

 

I would guess that either he was asked not to release it or he has been traveling and simply not had the time.

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10 minutes ago, Boom said:

I would guess that either he was asked not to release it or he has been traveling and simply not had the time.

I doubt he would give him it if he didn't want it getting released to the public. In fact they seemed to make it well known that he gave it to Milo. I would probably put it down to the travelling or him doing something with it to present via a video. He may even be told not to release it quite yet but I don't see why not..

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On 4/17/2016 at 7:05 AM, Schrödinger said:

This is what my eyes can distinguish between symbols and sounds that are already known and the T-shirt.

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There are several others symbols whose I haven't found enough similarities.

Woah woah woah.... 

That symbol for "3" is defiantly used in the upgrade ritual for the void bow... The rest of the symbols are Radicals: Lor, Ulla,Mar,Oth AND the symbol is shared by both the radical "zor" and the number 3 and the same thing can be said for 9 and eo, 7 and kor, 11 and ?, and some others...  Maybe I just can't notice all the details?

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It's been 7 days.

He has had time to push his own T-shirts & videos, even his first play of ZNS.

Such a shame to see this happen.

Things have been said in DMs that I won't repeat.

As I see it Milo is keeping it for himself. He believes he can do it all himself & make a video out of it then monetize it.

I wonder what would have become of CODZ if Carbon had done the same thing all those years ago.

Greed & ego are terrible things.

Milo if you're reading this (which I doubt) do the right thing not just what is in your own best interests.

Regards Alpha.

 

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I dont think its greed or ego i just think he hasnt thought about how he is going to release it

Obviously he could photograph it or he could get someone to create a digital table

If its the latter someone is proberly still working on it

If it was me, i would of just took photos of it and uploaded them for everyone and auctioned the t-shirt off

But you know he likes to do things different

And TBH getting some reputation and views is part of his part time job

I not the greatest fan of YT and its toxic elements but i can see no wrong that milo has done

Im sure the summoning tee will reveal its secrets soon

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To make my POV clear there was a time i all out hated the whole YT personality thing but i realised its here to stay and companies will use them to promote there products and get a feedback from the community

I dont really watch gaming Youtubers much but if i want a guide to a upgrade etc i will watch milo and to be fair its not bad content

I would prefer when he gets techy but when he goes deep into the subject matter but,  i think a lot of subs dont like it and complain

At the end of the day he uses twitter and YT comments for feedback as its his only medium of contact and as you well know this is toxic

As for the money side it has to pay for it self ie i would want the very least pay my software subscription, then you need camara laptop etc

He isnt throwing loads a cash around he is a student and you can see by his twitter he makes meals in batch to save time and money

I dont allways like his content and dont really agree with all his opinons and outlooks BUT

He is aged 20 going to uni and self employed, i wish i was that motivated at his age

I wrote this because he is not a bad youtuber and there isnt enough good ones around even if you dont like there style

The real question is do you think its right for a piece of lore to be given to one person

You could think of It like lord of the rings

Basiclly who would you have given the shirt to or do you think it should have been released digitally on twitter ?

Or maybe it should have been destroyed in the crack of doom

Im hoping in the next few days milo will release a digital chart and all this will be forgotten

 

 

 

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Not sure why this turned into bash Milo fest, but I feel it's unwarranted. There is clearly a reason he hasn't posted about it yet, likely because having the translations for symbols is one thing, but transliterating them into a cohesive language and how it is actual spoken is another. Particularly in the instances where we see multiple symbols used together, such as the Keeper symbols on the wall paintings uncovered by the skull. Plus he's also made it very clear that he's currently in a run of exams at school, so a little slack is justified. That or he WAS asked to wait a bit before releasing it. Not our place to judge either decision. Not telling you guys to not have an opinion of the guy, but compared to guys like Noahj, who is routinely on Activisions dick with GG openings, he is still leagues better in quality. He is also still active here and works closely with those who solve the ciphers for those of us who are just shit at that stuff. He's still, in my opinion, the only youtuber who actually seems to give a shit about what the community has to say. While I agree that his content following ZNS hasn't been his usual brand, again, it is still much more useful than many others.

The languages will come in due time, and it's not as if there still isn't a whole bunch to discuss. Breathe. 

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6 minutes ago, tEfugleskremmel said:

Not sure why this turned into bash Milo fest, but I feel it's unwarranted. There is clearly a reason he hasn't posted about it yet, likely because having the translations for symbols is one thing, but transliterating them into a cohesive language and how it is actual spoken is another.

So we should wait for Milo to figure it all out on his own? Is that what you're saying?

This would go faster if he wasn't intent on being the one man band.

Not sure how long you've been at CODZ. This place was built on sharing with one another.

Nothing personal against Milo. If anyone had done the same I would be calling them out as-well.

Interesting that he would ignore me, until I tweeted about those DMs.

Which he then deleted for what purpose?

I guess we will all have to wait until he is done zoning into his exams.

 

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Im not in the opinon that he should one man band it, that would be unwise to do so

But you got to think as soon as he has released it every youtuber is going rip it apart and he hasnt the time most of them have

Im suprised he hasnt asked on twitter with a list of options on how he should release it

1. Images of shirt

2. Digitalised format

3 . Digitalised  and image

4 . Video breakdown of the shirt and some of the translations


Im guessing his followers will mostly vote to make a video as thats the best format for them

Obviously the theory and intel community wants him to just take photos of the shirt  so people can make charts to start translating

I think a valuable lesson has been learnt for treyarch to be more like nikoli where comrades share there amnmo i mean intel like socialist

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@AlphaSnake just trying to preach some patience is all. I'm leaning more towards Blundell having asked him to hold off on a reveal. Well within his rights off how/when content is disseminated. It's incredible he even gave anyone the shirt to begin with. And thankfully it wasn't Noah. Cannot reiterate that enough. And I absolutely get yours or anyone else's frustrations, not trying to belittle that. Believe me, I'm salivating at the potential information that shirt holds. If in the end it was Milos decision to hold off, I'm sure he has his reasons and we just have to fine with that. But I really think it wasn't his call.

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Since it was given in the public eye I seriously doubt Jason would have put unknown stipulations on how & when to disseminate it.

I'm a very patient man.

I've known Milo for quite some time, this is totally out of character for him.

Just share the damn info.

If you can't because of Treyarch (Again I doubt this) just say so.

Stop wasting our time.

Regards Alpha.

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Alpha i totally understand that waiting for him to release the info is fustrating and i am sorry if my manner was very blunt in the posts above.I have tried to be fair and see everyones point of view but i can be inarticulate at times when getting my point across i hope this situation is solved soon without anymore conflict.

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Let me be abundantly clear here. Nobody has some god forsaken right to see the shirt that Milo's been given. Blundell gave it to him and Milo has the right to choose what to do with that information. Blundell gave it to him live on stream, but he didn't have to. He could have just given it to him privately and none of us would have been the wiser about it. Milo could have kept it to himself and not told anyone about it. If that were the case then we would still be in the exact same place we were before we knew Milo has the shirt. Progress can still be made, not only here in the language we've already been given but also in a number of other research points for the story we've been shown. Please focus only on what we do have and not on what we don't currently have. Leave Milo be and let him do as he pleases. Perhaps all of the incessant nagging about the shirt is what is persuading him not to share it with us. I honestly would not be surprised to see him say he's planning on not sharing it with the community because everyone is bitching and moaning about not having it. So again, please leave him be.

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@CG "Blundell gave it to him live on stream, but he didn't have to"

But he did & he made sure we all saw.

Some ambassador Jason chose.

They should have given one to Ali-A at least then there would have been some healthy competition.

Monopoly of information is never a good thing & keeping it secret from the community is a bone head move in my opinion.

People see through the BS, I know for a fact I'm not the only one.

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Covert Gunman said:

Let me be abundantly clear here. Nobody has some god forsaken right to see the shirt that Milo's been given. Blundell gave it to him and Milo has the right to choose what to do with that information. Blundell gave it to him live on stream, but he didn't have to. He could have just given it to him privately and none of us would have been the wiser about it.

I think the fact the Jason gave Milo it on camera was because he wanted it shared with the community. At the end of the day it's difficult decoding a made up language without having the language at our disposal so it's understandable that the community is desperate to know if and when Milo plans on sharing it.

 

I guess we just have to wait and hear from Milo what he plans on doing with it but it's also understandable that people would bring it up in a thread dedicated to the subject and as you know this community is extremely passionate. As you said though, it's his choice. Just a shame because we are already half way through the season and eventually the novelty will wear off.

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